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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 16:01:21 GMT
Easy to blame the strikers but who the fuck is there to create a chance? The midfield has only Burger who can pass well. And in attack only Manhoef is good. Oh I get that .... but it's not like they become goal machines if we improve the midfield is it? There's problems all over the field. They’re not but it’s nothing new. It’s why I didn’t get the reaction that perfectly reasonable YouTube video. It was like he’d fucked their Mum and their Mum had really enjoyed it. When alls he was doing was making logical arguments.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 3, 2024 16:01:34 GMT
Wasn't great but v a better side than we'll face this season As usual the moaners will be out over a pre season game but we need one or 2 in still. Tchamadeu a worry again Come on, we were absolutely shocking against a side that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship. A week to go, that was very worrying.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 3, 2024 16:01:50 GMT
Their goal looked offside. They could have had 5
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 3, 2024 16:02:43 GMT
Their goal looked offside. I thought so to. Surprised it wasn't discussed.
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Post by telfordstokie on Aug 3, 2024 16:04:20 GMT
Unless we pull some rabbits out of the hat in the next week, we are going into the new season weaker than last time when we only just scraped survival. Not saying Campbell was perfect but getting rid of him looks a mistake right now.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 16:04:46 GMT
We would have a good side if we brought in 11 quality players before next Sat. Laurent has been at this club far too long. He was a squad player when we signed him and he’s even less than that now. Shocking player He's no different than he's been at any time he's been here. He's not suited to the role he's being asked to play neither is Burger they're both deep lying midfielders.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 3, 2024 16:05:20 GMT
Wasn't great but v a better side than we'll face this season As usual the moaners will be out over a pre season game but we need one or 2 in still. Tchamadeu a worry again Come on, we were absolutely shocking against a side that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship. A week to go, that was very worrying. It was a friendly v a side in a far better division than the championship Irrelevant if we won or lost it when it comes to the season Amazing how these games take on a new meaning we hen you lose
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 3, 2024 16:07:01 GMT
Come on, we were absolutely shocking against a side that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship. A week to go, that was very worrying. It was a friendly v a side in a far better division than the championship Irrelevant if we won or lost it when it comes to the season Amazing how these games take on a new meaning we hen you lose The league is probably better than the championship but that team isn’t. I aren’t that arsed tbh but it doesn’t look great does it
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Post by blooter on Aug 3, 2024 16:07:14 GMT
Play ok away then produce that shit at home. Sure our ground is cursed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 16:07:17 GMT
Come on, we were absolutely shocking against a side that wouldn’t look out of place in the championship. A week to go, that was very worrying. It was a friendly v a side in a far better division than the championship Irrelevant if we won or lost it when it comes to the season Amazing how these games take on a new meaning we hen you lose Woooooooah!!! I’ve been told for ages that the Eredivise isn’t better than the Championship 🤣
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 3, 2024 16:09:09 GMT
Don’t know if it’s what’s been asked of him but he keeps steaming out of the box … could have been caught out again just. Good shot stopper and probably the best one we will have had since relegation, but this sweeper keeper lark is concerning I guess it's with playing a high line but we don't have the defenders for it, constantly getting caught, SS needs a rethink.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 3, 2024 16:11:56 GMT
Yes, AZ does battle in the Eredivisie every week. Much better league.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 3, 2024 16:13:26 GMT
It was a friendly v a side in a far better division than the championship Irrelevant if we won or lost it when it comes to the season Amazing how these games take on a new meaning we hen you lose Woooooooah!!! I’ve been told for ages that the Eredivise isn’t better than the Championship 🤣 I was impressed by them - but their wage bill is very comparable with ours. They've done a very good job of building that team on that budget. Mid £20ms. They just looked miles better than us. They came 4th, but there are only 4-5 decent clubs in the league and it's a pretty poor league outside that. I'd expect them to be competing for the top 6 in this league, but no more.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 3, 2024 16:13:37 GMT
Laurent has been at this club far too long. He was a squad player when we signed him and he’s even less than that now. Shocking player He's no different than he's been at any time he's been here. He's not suited to the role he's being asked to play neither is Burger they're both deep lying midfielders. Laurent is not a deep lying midfielder, he doesn’t have the tactical awareness, range of pass, understanding of space or defensive discipline. His only role is to be let to run forward and hope something comes off.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 3, 2024 16:14:41 GMT
I know Junior is young, but he offers zero offensively and even less defensively, not sure about Bocat either, but he did have Gooch in front of him.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 16:17:05 GMT
He's no different than he's been at any time he's been here. He's not suited to the role he's being asked to play neither is Burger they're both deep lying midfielders. Laurent is not a deep lying midfielder, he doesn’t have the tactical awareness, range of pass, understanding of space or defensive discipline. His only role is to be let to run forward and hope something comes off. I'm pretty sure his only personal accolade at this level was primarily playing DM for Reading for a season (player of the season). Even box to box is a deep lying midfield role their starting position is one of the 2 in a 2:1 midfield.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 3, 2024 16:22:14 GMT
Ennis simply looks a very poor footballer, that said we hardly create anything for the strikers.. Gallagher looked miles better and stronger, was a shame he had to come off. The striker options look scarily grim if Mwaee isn't fit, which I doubt he will be..
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Post by ChesterStokie on Aug 3, 2024 16:25:16 GMT
Their goal looked offside. I thought so to. Surprised it wasn't discussed. Freeze frame when the pass is made and he is clearly onside. Not even debatable. Very good decision by the linesman.
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Post by deadlinedave on Aug 3, 2024 16:28:14 GMT
Well, that was 90 minutes of my life that I'll never get back,
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 3, 2024 16:32:30 GMT
Woooooooah!!! I’ve been told for ages that the Eredivise isn’t better than the Championship 🤣 I was impressed by them - but their wage bill is very comparable with ours. They've done a very good job of building that team on that budget. Mid £20ms. They just looked miles better than us. They came 4th, but there are only 4-5 decent clubs in the league and it's a pretty poor league outside that. I'd expect them to be competing for the top 6 in this league, but no more. Precisely
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 3, 2024 16:37:28 GMT
On a good note,that Stoke side would walk the Irish league,just a pity we are playing in the English Championship.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 3, 2024 16:38:57 GMT
Well that’s worrying.
Gallagher breaking down is very Stoke. As is our determination to kill any potential buzz that might develop.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 3, 2024 16:39:43 GMT
He's no different than he's been at any time he's been here. He's not suited to the role he's being asked to play neither is Burger they're both deep lying midfielders. Laurent is not a deep lying midfielder, he doesn’t have the tactical awareness, range of pass, understanding of space or defensive discipline. His only role is to be let to run forward and hope something comes off. Also I'm not sure what you're watching but he's a really poor player in and around the opposition box and Burger isn't much better at it either.
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Post by greenhoff on Aug 3, 2024 16:58:27 GMT
Woooooooah!!! I’ve been told for ages that the Eredivise isn’t better than the Championship 🤣 I was impressed by them - but their wage bill is very comparable with ours. They've done a very good job of building that team on that budget. Mid £20ms. They just looked miles better than us. They came 4th, but there are only 4-5 decent clubs in the league and it's a pretty poor league outside that. I'd expect them to be competing for the top 6 in this league, but no more. I don’t think other than perhaps Leicester at their best any team produced a performance last season like AZ did today. There passing through the lines and movement was excellent and the goal was a thing of beauty. I thought they were a really good side.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 3, 2024 17:00:24 GMT
Laurant strolling around makes me sick at times, really can't wait until he leaves.
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Post by onepara on Aug 3, 2024 17:04:36 GMT
For me, it's not a case of us playing a side that are in a higher division than us, I look how we perform. They look like a side who know what they are doing. We look like a side who need coaching. Too many of our players don't seem bothered. Is this goalkeeper of ours the best that we can do? He wanders about too much for me, & loses concentration. Gets bored. How many times do you see Berger play the ball back, instead of looking for a forward pass? The whole team seem to want to make a negative, safe pass. Across the pitch & back to the goalkeeper, who's mostly out of position. Tchamadu is wandering inside, mostly gets caught out of position. We're in dire need of a midfield player who can make us play. I thought that Berger was the one, but he isn't disciplined enough, as he too wanders around. I'll be there again this season, but I must say, that I aren't filled with much hope of seeing anything better than last season. If we have a bad start, we will be looking for another Manager by October.
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Post by sealion100 on Aug 3, 2024 17:07:19 GMT
My sentiments exactly
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Post by ilikelamp on Aug 3, 2024 17:08:22 GMT
To put into perspective a lot of other championship teams have also lost today in friendlies
Reading 2-0 Hull QPR 0-1 Brighton Norwich 1-3 St.Pauli Luton 1-3 Celta Vigo Millwall 0-1 Southampton Preston 0-3 Everton Birmingham 4-1 West Brom
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 3, 2024 17:12:22 GMT
The only positive is it least it shows how far off we are!!! We've just got too many players that aren't good enough Wilmot Laurent Thompson Gooch Ennis Simply not good enough and we have simply got to move them on and replace them with better, problem is, I haven't seen much of the new crack transfer teams scouting so far that fills me with optimism that we will replace them with any better Seriously, those 5 should be battling it out to get onto our bench, never mind the team. They have had months to realise that these players are substandard. Very worrying.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 3, 2024 17:13:04 GMT
After today I can hardly see past another season where we have to fight for our lives to avoid relegation, we were just terrible! No creativity and vulnerable as hell at the back too!
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