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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 8:48:29 GMT
It's not a awful signing if he's a squad player, but if hes going be the main man, we're in trouble I think it will just be a signing that gives us a different option. His hold up play and link up play is very very good and obviously he has serious aerial ability. We have lacked that for a while now. It's always good to have that option when you need it |
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Post by collo68 on Jul 29, 2024 8:50:29 GMT
I’ve not seen enough of him to make a judgement but the best players don’t make the best team, you have to have variety and we ain’t got no one like him in the squad
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 29, 2024 8:52:38 GMT
It's not a awful signing if he's a squad player, but if hes going be the main man, we're in trouble Still a better option to lead the line than anything else we've had since relegation in my opinion. He has decent pace, is strong as an oxe, good in the air, and able to hold the ball up as well. The only downside is that he doesn't score enough, but close to 10 goals and he will clearly be an upgrade to all we had on top last season.  That just shows how poor we are in that position currently. I don't think hes bad, just don't see how scoring enough like you say. But agreed |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 8:54:12 GMT
Just don’t see how him and Cannon (should he sign) fit in the same side together with how Schumacher sets up.
And don’t see either of them being happy with the bench?
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Post by lagwafis on Jul 29, 2024 8:55:35 GMT
This was a Blackburn podcast from September 2021 talking about Gallagher's strengths and weaknesses.
Things might have changed since then but it's interesting that they don't see him as an effective target man through the middle and perhaps better suited out wide (4 minutes in)
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 8:56:43 GMT
Just don’t see how him and Cannon (should he sign) fit in the same side together with how Schumacher sets up. And don’t see either of them being happy with the bench? "4-4 fucking 2" |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:00:57 GMT
Just don’t see how him and Cannon (should he sign) fit in the same side together with how Schumacher sets up. And don’t see either of them being happy with the bench? "4-4 fucking 2" Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 29, 2024 9:01:43 GMT
It's not a awful signing if he's a squad player, but if hes going be the main man, we're in trouble There’s something about him that gets others around him scoring. Nobody could’ve foreseen Sammie’s goal scoring form last season for instance and Gallagher had a big role in that. It’s an intriguing one for what he brings to the team and could potentially unlock in Bae & Million. Yeah every Sidibe needs a Fuller and visa versa |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 9:04:07 GMT
Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 442 wouldn't work at all. I just had to use a quote from Mike Bassett 🤣. 442 doesn't suit our players at all. |
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 29, 2024 9:05:56 GMT
Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 I'd have said Cannon is more likely to play as a proper Inside forward off the left. I can't envisage a 6 foot plus slow striker playing off the left. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:08:18 GMT
Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 I'd have said Cannon is more likely to play as a proper Inside forward off the left. I can't envisage a 6 foot plus slow striker playing off the left. Just going off what some Blackburn fans have suggested. Him and Diaz seemed to switch over a lot from recollection and if he’s not a great target man as they are suggesting then targeting the full back is a good option. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2024 9:11:44 GMT
Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 obviously we will not be playing 442 as 442 is now, absurdly/completely wrongly , perceived as only a formation for dour football like Dyche however if we did Bae wide left & Million wide right , that's where they would fit in it imo the absolute clear flaw in playing 433, 451, 4231 whatever is that the 1 central strikers has to do everything & score goals, ie Drogba as vast majority of teams show such players are beyond rate 2 up top with complimentary players will come back in at some point |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:13:54 GMT
Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 obviously we will not be playing 442 as 442 is now, absurdly/completely wrongly , perceived as only a formation for dour football like Dyche however if we did Bae wide left & Million wide right , that's where they would fit in it imo the absolute clear flaw in playing 433, 451, 4231 whatever is that the 1 central strikers has to do everything & score goals, ie Drogba as vast majority of teams show such players are beyond rate 2 up top with complimentary players will come back in at some point Drogba’s goal record is surprisingly poor. Just going off on a tangent there 🤣like it’s ok but I always thought he scored more. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 9:14:09 GMT
So going off that podcast, what is he bringing to the party here?
Can't play with his back to goal, can't hold the ball up and lay it off but drifts around out wide a bit and is decent at getting his head on crosses from wingers, of which we don't really have if Bae, Vidigal and Manhoef are our wide options as they are all cutty in types.
I'm baffled?
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2024 9:15:27 GMT
obviously we will not be playing 442 as 442 is now, absurdly/completely wrongly , perceived as only a formation for dour football like Dyche however if we did Bae wide left & Million wide right , that's where they would fit in it imo the absolute clear flaw in playing 433, 451, 4231 whatever is that the 1 central strikers has to do everything & score goals, ie Drogba as vast majority of teams show such players are beyond rate 2 up top with complimentary players will come back in at some point Drogba’s goal record is surprisingly poor. Just going off on a tangent there 🤣like it’s ok but I always thought he scored more. well, its skewwiffed because he didn't 'develop' until pretty late strange career when you delve into it I just hate 1 up top |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 29, 2024 9:17:20 GMT
This was a Blackburn podcast from September 2021 talking about Gallagher's strengths and weaknesses. Things might have changed since then but it's interesting that they don't see him as an effective target man through the middle and perhaps better suited out wide (4 minutes in) “Gallagher’s game is based on hard work. "He’s an amazing athlete Gally, for someone who is 6’4, he’s really powerful, has really good stamina levels, that’s why generally through my time here I’ve played him on the right,” the manager explained. www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-played-sam-gallagher-13829242Wide of a three behind a single centre forward, though, is the position that Blues boss Cotterill insists is the best place for Gallagher. “He’s better out there than he is centre-forward,” he said simply, during his press conference after the match. “He will play his better football out there wide because he is a 6ft 4ins striker who doesn’t always play like a 6ft 4ins striker. “Just because he’s big it doesn’t mean to say he always plays well with his back to goal, he’s not always the best in the air. “But if you put him out wide all of a sudden he is good in the air because he’s up against a full back that isn’t so dominant. “I thought he was good out there when he came on as well. That’s the best place to play him - by a country mile. “He might have to go and play the others at any time but I think he’s good at that wide striker of a three.” |
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Post by worcsstokie15 on Jul 29, 2024 9:18:03 GMT
If by the window we have Cannon, Gallagher, Mmaee, Tezgel, Lowe… That’s a decent group of CFs for a team that’s been bottom half of championship for a few years now? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:18:13 GMT
Drogba’s goal record is surprisingly poor. Just going off on a tangent there 🤣like it’s ok but I always thought he scored more. well, its skewwiffed because he didn't 'develop' until pretty late strange career when you delve into it I just hate 1 up top I like it but you have to the set up and patterns of play for it and we just haven’t had a manager capable of that. Like Junho being out on the wing to me is unfathomable. Play him as a 10 linking up with a front man and have a proper winger or wide forward on the left. It just makes sense. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:19:29 GMT
This was a Blackburn podcast from September 2021 talking about Gallagher's strengths and weaknesses. Things might have changed since then but it's interesting that they don't see him as an effective target man through the middle and perhaps better suited out wide (4 minutes in) “Gallagher’s game is based on hard work. "He’s an amazing athlete Gally, for someone who is 6’4, he’s really powerful, has really good stamina levels, that’s why generally through my time here I’ve played him on the right,” the manager explained. www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-played-sam-gallagher-13829242Wide of a three behind a single centre forward, though, is the position that Blues boss Cotterill insists is the best place for Gallagher. “He’s better out there than he is centre-forward,” he said simply, during his press conference after the match. “He will play his better football out there wide because he is a 6ft 4ins striker who doesn’t always play like a 6ft 4ins striker. “Just because he’s big it doesn’t mean to say he always plays well with his back to goal, he’s not always the best in the air. “But if you put him out wide all of a sudden he is good in the air because he’s up against a full back that isn’t so dominant. “I thought he was good out there when he came on as well. That’s the best place to play him - by a country mile. “He might have to go and play the others at any time but I think he’s good at that wide striker of a three.” So this target man some people are going moist for is actually a shit target man? 🤣🤣🤣 This morning has been hilarious. |
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Post by gonk on Jul 29, 2024 9:21:03 GMT
I'd have said Cannon is more likely to play as a proper Inside forward off the left. I can't envisage a 6 foot plus slow striker playing off the left. Just going off what some Blackburn fans have suggested. Him and Diaz seemed to switch over a lot from recollection and if he’s not a great target man as they are suggesting then targeting the full back is a good option. Stoke 3v Blackburn What i remember of this match we were cruising ,then they brought Gallagher on.We where then put really under pressure ans was lucky to get then win in the end. A third from Tyrese Campbell looked to have sealed all three points for Stoke, but Ben Brereton Diaz and Sam Gallagher struck in the closing minutes of the game to make for a tense finale that, ultimately, the hosts came out on top in. |
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Post by idle on Jul 29, 2024 9:27:36 GMT
Which then begs the question how Manhoef and Bae would fit into that. (They don’t). The link above your post is interesting though. If he can play on the left. Move Junho to 10 and have Cannon up top. That could work presuming Gallagher can actually play there and we sign Cannon 🤣 I'd have said Cannon is more likely to play as a proper Inside forward off the left. I can't envisage a 6 foot plus slow striker playing off the left.  Norway 1993: Jostein Flo (the guy behind the goalie) at 6'4" was the recipient of the long "Flo-pass" going from the left back (Bjørnebye at the time) so he could win the header down to the striker behind the defence or the onrushing box-to-box midfielders. Not unlike us when Leris was playing right wing, but much more extreme, as Flo was unbeatable in the air. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 9:29:59 GMT
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19674203.tony-mowbray-explains-use-amazing-athlete-sam-gallagher/“Gallagher’s game is based on hard work. "He’s an amazing athlete Gally, for someone who is 6’4, he’s really powerful, has really good stamina levels, that’s why generally through my time here I’ve played him on the right,” the manager explained. www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-played-sam-gallagher-13829242Wide of a three behind a single centre forward, though, is the position that Blues boss Cotterill insists is the best place for Gallagher. “He’s better out there than he is centre-forward,” he said simply, during his press conference after the match. “He will play his better football out there wide because he is a 6ft 4ins striker who doesn’t always play like a 6ft 4ins striker. “Just because he’s big it doesn’t mean to say he always plays well with his back to goal, he’s not always the best in the air. “But if you put him out wide all of a sudden he is good in the air because he’s up against a full back that isn’t so dominant. “I thought he was good out there when he came on as well. That’s the best place to play him - by a country mile. “He might have to go and play the others at any time but I think he’s good at that wide striker of a three.” So this target man some people are going moist for is actually a shit target man? 🤣🤣🤣 This morning has been hilarious. If we're keeping Leris then why would we sign Gallagher? Doesn't Leris just do the same and a bit more? Run around a bit out wide, not score many goals but actually win the ball in the air? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:31:21 GMT
So this target man some people are going moist for is actually a shit target man? 🤣🤣🤣 This morning has been hilarious. If we're keeping Leris then why would we sign Gallagher? Doesn't Leris just do the same and a bit more? Run around a bit out wide, not score many goals but actually win the ball in the air? Seemingly so. Neither would be lovely. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2024 9:50:00 GMT
well, its skewwiffed because he didn't 'develop' until pretty late strange career when you delve into it I just hate 1 up top I like it but you have to the set up and patterns of play for it and we just haven’t had a manager capable of that. Like Junho being out on the wing to me is unfathomable. Play him as a 10 linking up with a front man and have a proper winger or wide forward on the left. It just makes sense. in 4231 yes bit that still means 1 up top vast majority of timer, at any club anywhere, it doesn't work as the 1 just doesn't have all the attributes required to make it work look at Mmaee for example, there's no way he could be a regular in a 4231 as the one however pair him up with someone who gets into the fucking box & that could work very well |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 9:53:47 GMT
I like it but you have to the set up and patterns of play for it and we just haven’t had a manager capable of that. Like Junho being out on the wing to me is unfathomable. Play him as a 10 linking up with a front man and have a proper winger or wide forward on the left. It just makes sense. in 4231 yes bit that still means 1 up top vast majority of timer, at any club anywhere, it doesn't work as the 1 just doesn't have all the attributes required to make it work look at Mmaee for example, there's no way he could be a regular in a 4231 as the one however pair him up with someone who gets into the fucking box & that could work very well The best teams in the world only play with one striker or none. 🤷♂️🤣 |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 9:59:53 GMT
Drogba’s goal record is surprisingly poor. Just going off on a tangent there 🤣like it’s ok but I always thought he scored more. well, its skewwiffed because he didn't 'develop' until pretty late strange career when you delve into it I just hate 1 up top Yup always right up toward the top of the premier league top scorers during his Chelsea career. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2024 10:03:55 GMT
in 4231 yes bit that still means 1 up top vast majority of timer, at any club anywhere, it doesn't work as the 1 just doesn't have all the attributes required to make it work look at Mmaee for example, there's no way he could be a regular in a 4231 as the one however pair him up with someone who gets into the fucking box & that could work very well The best teams in the world only play with one striker or none. 🤷♂️🤣 they do,,tis true partly explains why football is m ore boring than before |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 10:04:11 GMT
well, its skewwiffed because he didn't 'develop' until pretty late strange career when you delve into it I just hate 1 up top Yup always right up toward the top of the premier league top scorers during his Chelsea career. Was he? He had two absolutely amazing seasons but these are his league goal amounts. 10 12 20 8 5 29 11 5 I just think it’s surprisingly a bit meh. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 29, 2024 10:07:43 GMT
well, its skewwiffed because he didn't 'develop' until pretty late strange career when you delve into it I just hate 1 up top Yup always right up toward the top of the premier league top scorers during his Chelsea career. The role of a striker/goalscorer is so much different now. Drogba wasn't just a goalscorer, but if you got 20 goals 15/20 years, you were the best in the business. Now you've got players knocking in 30+ with ease but they might not do a lot else. Drogba was class. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 10:08:56 GMT
Yup always right up toward the top of the premier league top scorers during his Chelsea career. Was he? He had two absolutely amazing seasons but these are his league goal amounts. 10 12 20 8 5 29 11 5 I just think it’s surprisingly a bit meh. So the two 5’s and an 8 are a surprise but for all I know could have been from injury plagued campaigns. All the rest are quite respectable. Tons of players don’t score 20 goals every season. |
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