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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Jul 27, 2024 20:15:10 GMT
It sounds like he's the sort of player who would probably be a brilliant foil for Campbell. Like fletcher was for Tye. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 27, 2024 20:27:35 GMT
If we sign another forward as well, I don't mind it. IMHO. We need a central forward in the mould of a 28 year old Fletcher. Someone who could go and get you 12/14 goals a season but as important is a focal point who can keep defenders on their toes and create space for others. What better than having goals coming consistently (5/6/7 etc) from others…….Its a team game |
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Post by spoton on Jul 27, 2024 20:42:06 GMT
Personally believe Gallagher no where good enough his goal tally is rubbish I can only believe it's the Plymouth link which makes him attractive to the head coach,we have got to be looking at someone better if we want to improve
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 20:50:55 GMT
Personally believe Gallagher no where good enough his goal tally is rubbish I can only believe it's the Plymouth link which makes him attractive to the head coach,we have got to be looking at someone better if we want to improve Go on I'll bite what is the Plymouth link?? |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 27, 2024 20:51:45 GMT
Personally believe Gallagher no where good enough his goal tally is rubbish I can only believe it's the Plymouth link which makes him attractive to the head coach,we have got to be looking at someone better if we want to improve Gallagher left Plymouth 12 years ago as a youth player🤣🤣 Schumacher was a player at Bury back then..so none of them have a Plymouth link to speak of |
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Post by lordb on Jul 27, 2024 20:55:38 GMT
If we sign another forward as well, I don't mind it. IMHO. We need a central forward in the mould of a 28 year old Fletcher. Someone who could go and get you 12/14 goals a season but as important is a focal point who can keep defenders on their toes and create space for others. What better than having goals coming consistently (5/6/7 etc) from others…….Its a team game Thats exactly what we need However that striker doesn't exist or at least isn't attainable |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 27, 2024 21:06:42 GMT
IMHO. We need a central forward in the mould of a 28 year old Fletcher. Someone who could go and get you 12/14 goals a season but as important is a focal point who can keep defenders on their toes and create space for others. What better than having goals coming consistently (5/6/7 etc) from others…….Its a team game Thats exactly what we need However that striker doesn't exist or at least isn't attainable “Doesn’t exist, isn’t attainable”………..Let’s evaluate after 31 August 👍 |
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 27, 2024 21:08:06 GMT
Am I mad to suggest playing Mmaee as a 10 behind him? Heard a few days ago that we now see Mmaee as a 10 I get it. One think is every striker played this pre season has done the ‘Harry Kane role’ which: 1. Terrifies me 2. Made me think Mmaee has been earmarked for CF as that’s his game. 3. Terrifies me as it completely breaks teams with better players than ours. |
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jul 27, 2024 21:15:03 GMT
Soon to be 29 and doesn’t score goals? Sounds about right. He works ‘ard though so it’s got Walters all over this one. What a ridiculous comment. He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then? |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 27, 2024 21:17:02 GMT
What a ridiculous comment. How so? Because you seem to making a correlation between Walters the footballer and Walters the SD. We have no idea what type of player he rates or wishes to sign. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 27, 2024 21:17:10 GMT
Am I mad to suggest playing Mmaee as a 10 behind him? Heard a few days ago that we now see Mmaee as a 10 That's all fine but we don't play a number 10. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 27, 2024 21:17:47 GMT
What a ridiculous comment. He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then? Where are the facts that Walters has said he wants someone who doesn't score goals?... |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 27, 2024 21:19:51 GMT
He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then? Where are the facts that Walters has said he wants someone who doesn't score goals?... I think the thought process here is Walters used to be a hard working player therefore he only rates and wants limited hardworking players to sign for us 🤷♂️ |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 27, 2024 21:21:08 GMT
Where are the facts that Walters has said he wants someone who doesn't score goals?... I think the thought process here is Walters used to be a hard working player therefore he only rates and wants limited hardworking players to sign for us 🤷♂️ Unbelievable isn't it 🤣 |
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jul 27, 2024 21:22:28 GMT
He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then? Where are the facts that Walters has said he wants someone who doesn't score goals?... Didn’t say that though, did I? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2024 21:23:59 GMT
Where are the facts that Walters has said he wants someone who doesn't score goals?... I think the thought process here is Walters used to be a hard working player therefore he only rates and wants limited hardworking players to sign for us 🤷♂️ I don't think Huth's comments recently that were put down by the Sentinel have helped said thought process, when he said that now Walters is in post we can expect to see a return of the old Stoke DNA pretty quickly. Rightly or wrongly, when you read those comments it's not hard to see why some people will think like that. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 27, 2024 21:24:48 GMT
Where are the facts that Walters has said he wants someone who doesn't score goals?... Didn’t say that though, did I? Your post was.."He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then?" So yes..you literally did say that 🤦🏻♂️ |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 21:27:24 GMT
Because you seem to making a correlation between Walters the footballer and Walters the SD. We have no idea what type of player he rates or wishes to sign. Which for people who are glad he holds the position he does is fine and dandy but for people who aren't keen on his appointment to the role leaves them with a healthy suspicion of the direction he might take us as there is no track record to case study. People worrying he'll do things they don't want to see is as irrational as those thinking he's wonderful and has done anything of significance since being appointed to merit it. They're both irrational but they're both perfectly natural reactions whichever side of it you are coming from. |
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jul 27, 2024 21:31:03 GMT
Didn’t say that though, did I? Your post was.."He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then?" So yes..you literally did say that 🤦🏻♂️ You’ve literally cut half of that out, go back to the original post. Gallagher doesn’t score goals, and Walters said in an interview in June he wants ‘hard working, never say die players’. If you’re happy with it, more power to you, but it’s not the sort of signing to get us up. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 27, 2024 21:34:00 GMT
Your post was.."He is nearly 29, he doesn’t score goals, and Walters said that’s what he wants. What’s so ridiculous then?" So yes..you literally did say that 🤦🏻♂️ You’ve literally cut half of that out, go back to the original post. Gallagher doesn’t score goals, and Walters said in an interview in June he wants ‘hard working, never say die players’. If you’re happy with it, more power to you, but it’s not the sort of signing to get us up. I do want hard working never say die players..every fan should want those players for their club. You seem under the impression that hard working never say die players have no quality. |
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jul 27, 2024 21:35:26 GMT
You’ve literally cut half of that out, go back to the original post. Gallagher doesn’t score goals, and Walters said in an interview in June he wants ‘hard working, never say die players’. If you’re happy with it, more power to you, but it’s not the sort of signing to get us up. I do want hard working never say die players..every fan should want those players for their club. You seem under the impression that hard working never say die players have no quality. I don’t think this specific one does have quality, no. You can have players with both like Junho. That’s the profile needed in my opinion. |
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 27, 2024 21:44:19 GMT
If we sign another forward as well, I don't mind it. IMHO. We need a central forward in the mould of a 28 year old Fletcher. Someone who could go and get you 12/14 goals a season but as important is a focal point who can keep defenders on their toes and create space for others. What better than having goals coming consistently (5/6/7 etc) from others…….Its a team game He's gone to Sheffield United on a three year deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2024 21:44:46 GMT
2019/20 - 29(15) apps - 7 goals, 5 assists 2020/21 - 24(15) apps - 8 goals, 5 assists 2021/22 - 29(10) apps - 9 goals, 3 assists 2022/23 - 30(9) apps - 7 goals, 3 assists 2023/24 - 23(4) apps - 5 apps, 6 assists Speaking to Blackburn supporters and he's always been a good foil for a regular goalscorer, doing the running, making space, chipping in here and there. Not really a 'back to goal, hold up type target man' though, despite being 6' 4" - I vaguely remember that was mentioned on a Blackburn podcast last year Trouble is we don't currently have an Adam Armstrong, Ben Brereton Diaz or Sammy Szmodics to get 20+ goals a season (unless the hope is to eventually pair him with someone like Cannon, which could work) We have Bae and Million. I think that both of them should be looking to get 12+ goals this season. They’ll be more likely to do that with a battering ram alongside them. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 27, 2024 21:46:26 GMT
I think the thought process here is Walters used to be a hard working player therefore he only rates and wants limited hardworking players to sign for us 🤷♂️ I don't think Huth's comments recently that were put down by the Sentinel have helped said thought process, when he said that now Walters is in post we can expect to see a return of the old Stoke DNA pretty quickly. Rightly or wrongly, when you read those comments it's not hard to see why some people will think like that. I haven’t seen these quotes, but who would object to a return of the “old Stoke DNA” ? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 27, 2024 21:48:49 GMT
IMHO. We need a central forward in the mould of a 28 year old Fletcher. Someone who could go and get you 12/14 goals a season but as important is a focal point who can keep defenders on their toes and create space for others. What better than having goals coming consistently (5/6/7 etc) from others…….Its a team game He's gone to Sheffield United on a three year deal. Apologies……who? Plus I was making a generic comparison when mentioning Fletcher (Steven) as the type of potential central forward 👍 |
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Post by lordb on Jul 27, 2024 21:49:25 GMT
Thats exactly what we need However that striker doesn't exist or at least isn't attainable “Doesn’t exist, isn’t attainable”………..Let’s evaluate after 31 August 👍 Very much hope I'm wrong When you see promising but no more than that Delap and Parrott go for £25m+,when you see pretty ordanairy players like Ugbo being chased by at least 5 or 6 sides and the absolute dearth of anyone worth having from league 1 then it's hard to a 28 year old Fletcher who isn't injured being available and coming here McBurnie might/maybe have fit the bill but he's gone Sam Gallagher ticks some boxes but gets 7 or 8 a season so he's not the answer Going to have to shop abroad |
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Post by lordb on Jul 27, 2024 21:50:23 GMT
He's gone to Sheffield United on a three year deal. Apologies……who? Plus I was making a generic comparison when mentioning Fletcher (Steven) as the type of potential central forward 👍 Kiefer Moore, who is now 31 and will be on bigger money at Sheffield United than we could pay |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 27, 2024 21:50:23 GMT
I don't think Huth's comments recently that were put down by the Sentinel have helped said thought process, when he said that now Walters is in post we can expect to see a return of the old Stoke DNA pretty quickly. Rightly or wrongly, when you read those comments it's not hard to see why some people will think like that. I haven’t seen these quotes, but who would object to a return of the “old stoke DNA” ? I genuinely think people have fallen into the Jared love in trap of us signing random players and they see his era as the way to go...you know the one where we signed 22 players and 3 of them came good and we just scraped relegation. I don't care whether we sign players from abroad or not. I want a team we can all get behind and a team that is going to perform and gives teams a hard time. That all starts from the strikers pressing. Too many teams last season especially with Neil in charge barely had to try to beat us. Too many people are writing Jon off. Give him a chance. I don't know if it will work or not but it's completely stupid to judge anyone before they have had a chance..that goes for signings too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2024 21:52:14 GMT
I don't think Huth's comments recently that were put down by the Sentinel have helped said thought process, when he said that now Walters is in post we can expect to see a return of the old Stoke DNA pretty quickly. Rightly or wrongly, when you read those comments it's not hard to see why some people will think like that. I haven’t seen these quotes, but who would object to a return of the “old Stoke DNA” ? Nobody probably but it means different things to different people. Long ball football A reliance on set pieces British based transfer policy A heavy reliance on attitude and character with new signings Low goalscoring All applicable (plus more) to that part of our history with some being quite positive and some being negative. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 27, 2024 21:53:49 GMT
I haven’t seen these quotes, but who would object to a return of the “old Stoke DNA” ? Nobody probably but it means different things to different people. Long ball football A reliance on set pieces British based transfer policy A heavy reliance on attitude and character with new signings Low goalscoring All applicable (plus more) to that part of our history with some being quite positive and some being negative. The DNA is a mindset and attitude thing surely? Nothing at all to do with a style of play. |
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