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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 17:36:17 GMT
The definitive answer?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 17:40:03 GMT
That can’t be right, everybody knows Croydon isn’t in London!
Oggy will be along shortly to set the record straight I’m sure.
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Post by telfordstoke on Jul 12, 2024 18:11:48 GMT
It's a shit hole but it is in London, wasn't not long before I was born but a whole chunk of Surrey was incorporated as London boroughs late 1960s so technically it's London. Awful place. Seems to follow me as I move round the place as an issue, Oswestry is in Shropshire cos the Welsh didn't want it (shithole) and just before moved here worked in Slough and Berkshire ended up with that as Bucks didn't want.
Sat in pub so sorry for life story 🙄😁
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 18:12:16 GMT
Is that where he lives? I thought he didn't live in London?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 12, 2024 18:58:40 GMT
So of the top 5 boroughs the MPs are
Tower Hamlets
Rushanara Ali - Labour Party. Bethnal Green & Bow Constituency.
Apsana Begum - Labour Party. Poplar and Limehouse Constituency. MP since 2019
Hackney
Diane Abbott - Labour Party MP since 1987
Newham
Stephen Timms - Labour Party MP since 1994
Lewisham
Vicky Foxcroft - Labour Party MP since 2015
Croydon
Chris Philip - Conservative Party MP since 2015 (South)
Steve Reed - Labour Party MP since 2012
Sarah Jones - Labour Party MP since 2017
A little worrying that almost all of them have been in place over 10 years.
Clearly crime isn’t top of their constituents priorities when voting.
All bar one of the MPs are Labour. Let’s hope this hike in crime won’t be reflected countrywide in relation with them being the new government.
Up to sir Kier to turn things around.
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Post by elystokie on Jul 12, 2024 18:59:58 GMT
Good old Norman  Wasn't he the self designated "UK Knife Lead" or summat 
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Post by Gods on Jul 12, 2024 19:53:59 GMT
So of the top 5 boroughs the MPs are Tower Hamlets Rushanara Ali - Labour Party. Bethnal Green & Bow Constituency. Apsana Begum - Labour Party. Poplar and Limehouse Constituency. MP since 2019 Hackney Diane Abbott - Labour Party MP since 1987 Newham Stephen Timms - Labour Party MP since 1994 Lewisham Vicky Foxcroft - Labour Party MP since 2015 Croydon Chris Philip - Conservative Party MP since 2015 (South) Steve Reed - Labour Party MP since 2012 Sarah Jones - Labour Party MP since 2017 A little worrying that almost all of them have been in place over 10 years. Clearly crime isn’t top of their constituents priorities when voting. All bar one of the MPs are Labour. Let’s hope this hike in crime won’t be reflected countrywide in relation with them being the new government. Up to sir Kier to turn things around. I'm not sure you have cause and effect the right way around. Are these places bandit country because they have a Labour MP or if a place is bandit country is it more likely to elect a Labour MP? |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 12, 2024 19:57:04 GMT
So of the top 5 boroughs the MPs are Tower Hamlets Rushanara Ali - Labour Party. Bethnal Green & Bow Constituency. Apsana Begum - Labour Party. Poplar and Limehouse Constituency. MP since 2019 Hackney Diane Abbott - Labour Party MP since 1987 Newham Stephen Timms - Labour Party MP since 1994 Lewisham Vicky Foxcroft - Labour Party MP since 2015 Croydon Chris Philip - Conservative Party MP since 2015 (South) Steve Reed - Labour Party MP since 2012 Sarah Jones - Labour Party MP since 2017 A little worrying that almost all of them have been in place over 10 years. Clearly crime isn’t top of their constituents priorities when voting. All bar one of the MPs are Labour. Let’s hope this hike in crime won’t be reflected countrywide in relation with them being the new government. Up to sir Kier to turn things around. I'm not sure you have cause and effect the right way around. Are these places bandit country because they have a Labour MP or if a place is bandit country is it more likely to elect a Labour MP? I guess we’ll find out over the next few years but one things for sure the govt can’t blame the boroughs MP and visa versa. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 20:13:27 GMT
Good old Norman Wasn't he the self designated "UK Knife Lead" or summat
He's an absolute fraud, who is nothing more than right wing gun for hire, when GB News needs an apparent 'expert' to legitimise one of their more outlandish stories.
The Police Federation described him as "giving outrageous soundbites and simplistic solutions to complex policing issues."
Oh, FWIW, Croydon is in London.
And did we really need another thread on this, seriously?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
Good old Norman Wasn't he the self designated "UK Knife Lead" or summat
He's an absolute fraud, who is nothing more than right wing gun for hire, when GB News needs an apparent 'expert' to legitimise one of their more outlandish stories.
The Police Federation described him as "giving outrageous soundbites and simplistic solutions to complex policing issues."
Oh, FWIW, Croydon is in London.
Are you calling Oggy a liar?😏 |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 20:16:36 GMT
He's an absolute fraud, who is nothing more than right wing gun for hire, when GB News needs an apparent 'expert' to legitimise one of their more outlandish stories.
The Police Federation described him as "giving outrageous soundbites and simplistic solutions to complex policing issues."
Oh, FWIW, Croydon is in London.
Are you calling Oggy a liar?😏
I have done several times ...
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 20:41:31 GMT
Good old Norman Wasn't he the self designated "UK Knife Lead" or summat He's an absolute fraud, who is nothing more than right wing gun for hire, when GB News needs an apparent 'expert' to legitimise one of their more outlandish stories. The Police Federation described him as "giving outrageous soundbites and simplistic solutions to complex policing issues." Oh, FWIW, Croydon is in London. And did we really need another thread on this, seriously?
Whether Croydon is in London? I haven't posted it for the crime statistics. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 20:48:28 GMT
He's an absolute fraud, who is nothing more than right wing gun for hire, when GB News needs an apparent 'expert' to legitimise one of their more outlandish stories. The Police Federation described him as "giving outrageous soundbites and simplistic solutions to complex policing issues." Oh, FWIW, Croydon is in London. And did we really need another thread on this, seriously?
Whether Croydon is in London? I haven't posted it for the crime statistics.
Did you not consider that inevitably, that is exactly (quite understandably) what people would end up focusing on, as indeed they have done?
Surely there are numerous links out there, that can establish whether Croydon is or isn't in London, that doesn't depend on focussing on crime statistics ...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 20:56:20 GMT
He's an absolute fraud, who is nothing more than right wing gun for hire, when GB News needs an apparent 'expert' to legitimise one of their more outlandish stories. The Police Federation described him as "giving outrageous soundbites and simplistic solutions to complex policing issues." Oh, FWIW, Croydon is in London. And did we really need another thread on this, seriously?
Whether Croydon is in London? I haven't posted it for the crime statistics. It’s a legitmate question, one of life’s mysteries. I’m not sure anyone knows the real answer. The modern day chicken and egg |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 21:07:13 GMT
Whether Croydon is in London? I haven't posted it for the crime statistics. Did you not consider that inevitably, that is exactly (quite understandably) what people would end up focusing on, as indeed they have done? Surely there are numerous links out there, that can establish whether Croydon is or isn't in London, that doesn't depend on focussing on crime statistics ...
People can read into it what they will. The thread title, whilst vague is relatively self explanatory. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 21:10:26 GMT
Did you not consider that inevitably, that is exactly (quite understandably) what people would end up focusing on, as indeed they have done? Surely there are numerous links out there, that can establish whether Croydon is or isn't in London, that doesn't depend on focussing on crime statistics ...
People can read into it what they will. The thread title, whilst vague is relatively self explanatory. Absolutely, it’s beyond me why anyone would veer towards the crime aspect. As Paul Spencer quite rightly said, the subject of crime in London is extensively covered in multiple threads |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 21:17:44 GMT
People can read into it what they will. The thread title, whilst vague is relatively self explanatory. Absolutely, it’s beyond me why anyone would veer towards the crime aspect. As Paul Spencer quite rightly said, the subject of crime in London is extensively covered in multiple threads Exactly, if I was drawing people's attention to that I'd have put it on the appropriate thread. I've had my fingers rapped by the self appointed EEB posting police for not doing that before. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 21:22:53 GMT
Absolutely, it’s beyond me why anyone would veer towards the crime aspect. As Paul Spencer quite rightly said, the subject of crime in London is extensively covered in multiple threads Exactly, if I was drawing people's attention to that I'd have put it on the appropriate thread. I've had my fingers rapped by the self appointed EEB posting police for not doing that before. As I said, very strange choice of link then. There's multiple ones you could have used that don't focus on crime. It was inevitable it would go the way it has. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 21:27:09 GMT
People can read into it what they will. The thread title, whilst vague is relatively self explanatory. Absolutely, it’s beyond me why anyone would veer towards the crime aspect. Even though you liked the first post on the thread that did! 🤣🤦♂️ |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 21:28:18 GMT
Exactly, if I was drawing people's attention to that I'd have put it on the appropriate thread. I've had my fingers rapped by the self appointed EEB posting police for not doing that before. As I said, very strange choice of link then. There's multiple ones you could have used that don't focus on crime. It was inevitable it would go the way it has. Oh it was definitely inevitable…… |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 21:29:49 GMT
Absolutely, it’s beyond me why anyone would veer towards the crime aspect. Even though you liked the first post on the thread that did! 🤣🤦♂️ When you know, you know😉 |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 21:30:53 GMT
The definitive answer?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 21:34:00 GMT
As I said, very strange choice of link then. There's multiple ones you could have used that don't focus on crime. It was inevitable it would go the way it has. Oh it was definitely inevitable…… Unfortunately, they just drag it that way. They're obsessed. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 21:38:49 GMT
Oh it was definitely inevitable…… Unfortunately, they just drag it that way. They're obsessed. It’s depressing isn’t it that people have to focus on the negatives of a perfectly innocent post that poses a real thought provoking conversation about British geography |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 21:40:14 GMT
Oh it was definitely inevitable…… Unfortunately, they just drag it that way. They're obsessed. You're the one obsessed pal. You just can't help yourself. Oh look I've found another link I can use to associate London/Croydon with crime. If you GENUINELY wanted to address whether Croydon is or isn't in London, why didn't you use one of the many links you could have used instead, that doesn't mention crime, like the positive one I've linked above? It took me literally less than 10 seconds to Google it. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 21:42:37 GMT
Unfortunately, they just drag it that way. They're obsessed. It’s depressing isn’t it that people have to focus on the negatives of a perfectly innocent post that poses a real thought provoking conversation about British geography Cobham focused on the negatives and you liked his post. Absolutely nothing wrong with that though whatsoever, the OP was always inevitably going to go that way. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 21:45:29 GMT
Unfortunately, they just drag it that way. They're obsessed. You're the one obsessed pal. You just can't help yourself. Oh look I've found another link I can use to associate London/Croydon with crime. If you GENUINELY wanted to address whether Croydon is or isn't in London, why didn't you use one of the many links you could have used instead, that doesn't mention crime, like the positive one I've linked above? It took me literally less than 10 seconds to Google it. I rarely post about London or on the knife crime thread. I have little experience or interest so tend to stay out of it. I know there has been some debate over Croydon being in or out of London, and whilst the video is a tenuous link it was interesting enough and would inspire debate. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2024 21:45:55 GMT
It’s depressing isn’t it that people have to focus on the negatives of a perfectly innocent post that poses a real thought provoking conversation about British geography Cobham focused on the negatives and you liked his post. Absolutely nothing wrong with that though whatsoever, the OP was always inevitably going to go that way. I liked his post, I do apologise |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 12, 2024 21:48:32 GMT
Cobham focused on the negatives and you liked his post. Absolutely nothing wrong with that though whatsoever, the OP was always inevitably going to go that way. I liked his post, I do apologise Bring back smite. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 21:49:10 GMT
Cobham focused on the negatives and you liked his post. Absolutely nothing wrong with that though whatsoever, the OP was always inevitably going to go that way. I liked his post, I do apologise For what? I literally said I thought there was nothing wrong in you doing so. Cobs has done nowt wrong in my book either. I just think there's no need to have another thread covering exactly the same topic, that has been done to death elsewhere on the board. |
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