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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 11, 2024 12:39:45 GMT
What's 'just wrong'? - I'd rather people take an oath over something they believe in than something they don't. Are you advocating that everyone should convert to Christianity? Swearing your allegiance to some of things that are in the Quran and then standing as an MP in the UK Parliament is what I think is wrong. SB has literally just explained to you that Muslim MP's DONT swear allegiance to the Quran anymore than Christian MP's do to the Bible. That is why he said that you've been radicalised. Somebody has told you this is the case and you've believed them, when it's nothing more than propaganda.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 11, 2024 12:42:26 GMT
For being an ignorant arsehole, I agree He was unable to get elected to be part of the conversation when Bercow was Speaker, which he acknowledged. His point had no relevance to today's opening of Parliament. The Brexit Party, is no more, has ceased to be, bereft of life, it rests in peace and is an ex-Brexit Party.
I agree with you! The jobs done. Britain is no longer subject to more and more regulation from Europe. Britain no longer has to keep paying into the EU, having spent 47 years subsidising the regeneration of other country's economies. Brexit is consigned to the age of fax machines and floppy discs. They served their purpose for a while but the world has moved on. The present EU countries represented about 30% of the world GDP when the UK joined; that has now dropped to less than 15% and shrinking as a share of the world economy. We have a free trade deal with the EU and can reduce the barriers further, but the focus of Britain's future is growing with the >85% of the world market that is growing faster than the EU. In fact it is only the east European countries in the EU that have significant growth due to major subsidising from the western countries in the EU. We can now focus on scrapping the dreadful CAP, Fisheries policy, etc. and start rebuilding our own economy, making trade deals with scores of fast growing economies around the world. Farage, Johnson and company have served their purpose, we can now turn the page. We have a new government, largely new parliament, and new king. The rebuilding of global Britain has started: search.oecd.org/sdd/na/gdp-growth-first-quarter-2024-oecd.htm I mean, we are still bound by EU regulations if we want to sell things there. Which we do and always will. But now we have no say over those regulations and so have no say over the rules that govern things we wish to export to the EU. Less sovereignty because of brexit.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 11, 2024 12:42:55 GMT
What's 'just wrong'? - I'd rather people take an oath over something they believe in than something they don't. Are you advocating that everyone should convert to Christianity? We’re going down a very scary route mate as I’ve discussed with you during many a dull game at the Bet365. Swearing your allegiance to some of things that are in the Quran and then standing as an MP in the UK Parliament is what I think is wrong. But they are not swearing their allegience TO the Quoran or everything that is in it, but on it - it is not the same thing. Just as a Christian is NOT swearing TO "The Lord is a man of war" or advocating 'An eye for an eye' - because the bible is pretty violent too. Both are swearing an alligience TO the Crown as witnessed by their God.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2024 12:45:53 GMT
Swearing your allegiance to some of things that are in the Quran and then standing as an MP in the UK Parliament is what I think is wrong. SB has literally just explained to you that Muslim MP's DONT swear allegiance to the Quran anymore than Christian MP's do to the Bible. That is why he said that you've been radicalised. Somebody has told you this is the case and you've believed them, when it's nothing more than propaganda. Nobody has told me anything at all and I’ll repeat we’re going down a very scary route
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 11, 2024 12:46:47 GMT
What's 'just wrong'? - I'd rather people take an oath over something they believe in than something they don't. Are you advocating that everyone should convert to Christianity? We’re going down a very scary route mate as I’ve discussed with you during many a dull game at the Bet365. Swearing your allegiance to some of things that are in the Quran and then standing as an MP in the UK Parliament is what I think is wrong. Well you will be pleased to know that absolutely no MP has sworn their allegiance to anything in the Quran at the opening of Parliament .
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 11, 2024 12:47:27 GMT
He was spot on when he talked about the horrible little shit that is John Bercow He's not fit enough to lace Bercow's boots, the grifting racist piece of shit that is Farage.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 11, 2024 12:48:32 GMT
SB has literally just explained to you that Muslim MP's DONT swear allegiance to the Quran anymore than Christian MP's do to the Bible. That is why he said that you've been radicalised. Somebody has told you this is the case and you've believed them, when it's nothing more than propaganda. Nobody has told me anything at all and I’ll repeat we’re going down a very scary route If you are afraid, I suggest you speak to a professional about it. Or talk about it on the “It’s OK” thread. It may help you overcome your fear.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2024 12:51:36 GMT
Yet another thread to bookmark for the future years
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 11, 2024 12:53:16 GMT
SB has literally just explained to you that Muslim MP's DONT swear allegiance to the Quran anymore than Christian MP's do to the Bible. That is why he said that you've been radicalised. Somebody has told you this is the case and you've believed them, when it's nothing more than propaganda. Nobody has told me anything at all and I’ll repeat we’re going down a very scary route So where have you got your wrong information from then? And when people point out to you that you are wrong, why do you immediately ignore them and just repeat the same thing again?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2024 13:02:00 GMT
Nobody has told me anything at all and I’ll repeat we’re going down a very scary route So where have you got your wrong information from then? And when people point out to you that you are wrong, why do you immediately ignore them and just repeat the same thing again? I’m really not interested what you think Paul in the slightest,I’ve repeated it because I believe it’s wrong to swear your allegiance to the Crown whilst kissing the Quran and and reciting almighty allah.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 11, 2024 13:06:22 GMT
So where have you got your wrong information from then? And when people point out to you that you are wrong, why do you immediately ignore them and just repeat the same thing again? I’m really not interested what you think Paul in the slightest,I’ve repeated it because I believe it’s wrong to swear your allegiance to the Crown whilst kissing the Quran and and reciting almighty allah. Hang on a sec. It was YOU who suggested something to me and I said I hadn't got the slightest clue what you were talking about. And there was a reason for that, that being, what you were suggesting was just plain untrue, as has been explained to you by several other posters since.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2024 13:07:31 GMT
I’m really not interested what you think Paul in the slightest,I’ve repeated it because I believe it’s wrong to swear your allegiance to the Crown whilst kissing the Quran and and reciting almighty allah. Hang on a sec. It was YOU who suggested something to me and I said I hadn't got the slightest clue what you were talking about. And there was a reason for that, that being, what you were suggesting was just plain untrue, as has been explained to you by several other posters since. You know everything so I very much doubt that
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 11, 2024 13:10:35 GMT
Hang on a sec. It was YOU who suggested something to me and I said I hadn't got the slightest clue what you were talking about. And there was a reason for that, that being, what you were suggesting was just plain untrue, as has been explained to you by several other posters since. You know everything so I very much doubt that Brilliant response mate, well done.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 11, 2024 13:11:14 GMT
You know everything so I very much doubt that Brilliant response mate, well done. Thank you lord and master👍
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 11, 2024 13:11:59 GMT
So where have you got your wrong information from then? And when people point out to you that you are wrong, why do you immediately ignore them and just repeat the same thing again? I’m really not interested what you think Paul in the slightest,I’ve repeated it because I believe it’s wrong to swear your allegiance to the Crown whilst kissing the Quran and and reciting almighty allah. It's strange because at the King's Coronation, all faiths were there. So you're wrong again mate.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 11, 2024 13:36:25 GMT
Yet another thread to bookmark for the future years Might be a long wait - the Quoran was first used in a British Court in 1738 and been an accepted text in the British army since 1914. But it's taken until 2024 for you to have a problem with it?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2024 2:14:34 GMT
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Post by professorplump on Jul 12, 2024 7:23:18 GMT
He was spot on when he talked about the horrible little shit that is John Bercow He's not fit enough to lace Bercow's boots, the grifting racist piece of shit that is Farage. Can't believe you're sticking up for a guy who used to bully his staff.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 12, 2024 7:28:43 GMT
He's not fit enough to lace Bercow's boots, the grifting racist piece of shit that is Farage. Can't believe you're sticking up for a guy who used to bully his staff. Proven was it?
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 12, 2024 7:33:57 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Jul 12, 2024 11:35:30 GMT
I was thinking I'd swear on the Viz annual, or Profanisaurus Rex. No reason it shouldn't be allowed.
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Post by elystokie on Jul 12, 2024 12:09:31 GMT
I'd prefer they declared their allegiance to the people that pay them 🤷 And it should definitely have nothing to do with any religion.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 12, 2024 12:20:08 GMT
I'd prefer they declared their allegiance to the people that pay them 🤷 And it should definitely have nothing to do with any religion. It's a very strange mix of old traditions and running a country. The dragging the speaker to the chair thing is completely bananas!
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Post by wannabee on Jul 12, 2024 12:31:35 GMT
I'd prefer they declared their allegiance to the people that pay them 🤷 And it should definitely have nothing to do with any religion. It doesn't have anything to do with Religion you can affirm The Oath is allegiance is to the Crown which is why the largest Political Party in Northern Ireland Sinn Fein will not take their seats in Parliament.
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