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Post by salopstick on Jun 28, 2024 11:12:39 GMT
Oatcake detectives do your stuff
Considering hes apparently been convicted in this country of a gang machete attack it may be a case of criminal involvement. The £30k gofund me seems a bit OTT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 28, 2024 11:29:30 GMT
I’ve been following this story quite closely it’s a bit of a mystery as to what’s happened to him.
As is the case nowadays social media has created a lot of amateur sleuths all with theories they’re convinced are right.
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Post by OldStokie on Jun 28, 2024 11:44:05 GMT
I'm stumped about the whole saga but something isn't right somewhere. As for the Gofundme, I don't have a problem with that. Nobody needs to give if they don't want to. I really felt for Jay Slater's father when I saw him on the news. The bloke was broken hearted and completely lost. Whatever Jay has done or not done, as a father I'd be the same in the circumstances.
OS.
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 28, 2024 11:51:59 GMT
Whatever's gone on whether it's cartel related or he just attempted a journey that was too much when off his kipper, I'm pretty certain he's dead and won't be seen again.
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Post by Gods on Jun 30, 2024 10:20:52 GMT
Police have called it off according to reports today.
Quite apart from all the SoMe gossip and innuendo when you see the unforgiving and endless volcanic terrain you can't help but be struck by the hopelessness of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2024 11:45:47 GMT
They've thoroughly scoured the area where he was last heard from or seen, for two weeks. In addition, there has been extra help from non-official sources. Professional rescue teams with dogs, drones, etc haven't been able to find even a trace of the lad.
It's all a bit odd. I can't help but think something sinister has gone on. There are all kind of stories and theories bandied about, from the sublime to the ridiculous.
His 'friend' that won't go on camera and her apparent links to the drug trade out there, start digging around her, and I think it'll maybe start to unravel.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jun 30, 2024 12:29:26 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jun 30, 2024 21:57:46 GMT
Whatever's gone on whether it's cartel related or he just attempted a journey that was too much when off his kipper, I'm pretty certain he's dead and won't be seen again. Oh he's dead alright. I just feel like the public are being taken for mugs, we've been given half a story.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 30, 2024 22:16:30 GMT
I'll wait till it comes out on a Netflix documentary.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 1, 2024 6:25:56 GMT
There was something briefly in msm that he had been seen arguing with a "burly Eastern European" bloke over a stolen Rolex watch. There’s loads of different speculation like with Nicola Burley which ended up as a simple drowning.
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Post by Gods on Jul 1, 2024 7:06:58 GMT
I think the police have taken the public as fools by really not telling us anything that might matter.
Their picture they want you to have is of a teenage boy who has gone to enjoy a music festival on his first holiday without mum.
But we're told nothing of his past, this girl who is his friend who won't appear on camera, the 2 men with a cheap airbnb in the mountains with whom he eloped. Who were they, what were they doing from that house? We are told they are not suspects but where are they now?
We are given nothing that might help.
No wonder people are inventing their own theories.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 1, 2024 7:24:41 GMT
I think the police have taken the public as fools by really not telling us anything that might matter. Their picture is of a teenage boy who has gone to enjoy a music festival on his first holiday without mum. But we're told nothing of his past, this girl who is his friend who won't appear on camera, the 2 men with a cheap airbnb in the mountains with whom he eloped. Who were they, what were they doing from that house? We are told they are not suspects but where are they now? We are given nothing that might help. No wonder people are inventing their own theories. It sure is an interesting case it appears to have taken social media by storm with various “experts” coming up with some real crackpot theories for likes. As you say it’s strange that mainstream media haven’t made any mention of his past though particularly as it’s very easy to find it by doing a basic search.
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Post by Gods on Jul 1, 2024 7:44:13 GMT
I think the police have taken the public as fools by really not telling us anything that might matter. Their picture is of a teenage boy who has gone to enjoy a music festival on his first holiday without mum. But we're told nothing of his past, this girl who is his friend who won't appear on camera, the 2 men with a cheap airbnb in the mountains with whom he eloped. Who were they, what were they doing from that house? We are told they are not suspects but where are they now? We are given nothing that might help. No wonder people are inventing their own theories. It sure is an interesting case it appears to have taken social media by storm with various “experts” coming up with some real crackpot theories for likes. As you say it’s strange that mainstream media haven’t made any mention of his past though particularly as it’s very easy to find it by doing a basic search. Yes, the media is certainly peddling the police line. Tenerife is certainly one of those holiday islands with a grubby underworld. You don't have to look too hard. Perhaps that's the point of the authorities on the island not wanting any story beyond 'missing boy'. Not wanting to put families off holidaying there.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 1, 2024 7:52:45 GMT
I think the police have taken the public as fools by really not telling us anything that might matter. Their picture they want you to have is of a teenage boy who has gone to enjoy a music festival on his first holiday without mum. But we're told nothing of his past, this girl who is his friend who won't appear on camera, the 2 men with a cheap airbnb in the mountains with whom he eloped. Who were they, what were they doing from that house? We are told they are not suspects but where are they now? We are given nothing that might help. No wonder people are inventing their own theories. Why would the Public need to know anything from the Police unless it were to help them find him, assuming he is missing.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 1, 2024 8:24:57 GMT
I think the police have taken the public as fools by really not telling us anything that might matter. Their picture they want you to have is of a teenage boy who has gone to enjoy a music festival on his first holiday without mum. But we're told nothing of his past, this girl who is his friend who won't appear on camera, the 2 men with a cheap airbnb in the mountains with whom he eloped. Who were they, what were they doing from that house? We are told they are not suspects but where are they now? We are given nothing that might help. No wonder people are inventing their own theories. Why would the Public need to know anything from the Police unless it were to help them find him, assuming he is missing. Good point and I’m sure there’s plenty going on in relation to the investigation they can’t disclose around those involved that they can’t disclose without putting it or others at risk.
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Post by Gods on Jul 1, 2024 9:29:19 GMT
I think the police have taken the public as fools by really not telling us anything that might matter. Their picture they want you to have is of a teenage boy who has gone to enjoy a music festival on his first holiday without mum. But we're told nothing of his past, this girl who is his friend who won't appear on camera, the 2 men with a cheap airbnb in the mountains with whom he eloped. Who were they, what were they doing from that house? We are told they are not suspects but where are they now? We are given nothing that might help. No wonder people are inventing their own theories. Why would the Public need to know anything from the Police unless it were to help them find him, assuming he is missing. Yes, for exactly the reason you describe, it seems they are not finding him or his body without some help from the public.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 1, 2024 11:34:26 GMT
Why would the Public need to know anything from the Police unless it were to help them find him, assuming he is missing. Yes, for exactly the reason you describe, it seems they are not finding him or his body without some help from the public. Are you saying they are deliberately sabotaging the search by not informing the Public? I'm confused.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 1, 2024 12:22:22 GMT
Vine definitely did a little smirk and had to stop himself laughing there. Then makes out he doesn't get it 😂
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Post by andystokey on Jul 1, 2024 12:30:04 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jul 1, 2024 14:59:17 GMT
Yes, for exactly the reason you describe, it seems they are not finding him or his body without some help from the public. Are you saying they are deliberately sabotaging the search by not informing the Public? I'm confused. Well if they believe it to simply be a case of a boy who has gone missing because he has lost his way and been out in the sun for too long without a bottle of water, a phone signal or a hat then they have probably told the public enough. But they have packed up the search and gone home so that avenue has failed. If, and it is an if, there are any other angles they are pursuing, and it seems he did inhabit a murky gang world, certainly at home so that would not rule out on the island and you want the publics help then it might be an idea to give the public some clue as to the company he was keeping. Why they wouldn't do that I don't know. Perhaps in a Jaws kind of a way, don't spook the tourists by giving the impression the island is a drug infested den of criminality. Who knows...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 15:07:12 GMT
Just reading a 'what do we know?' piece off Sky News which states:
Mr Slater reportedly shared a Snapchat photo at 7.30am on the morning he went missing showing himself with colourful fabric around him.
He later told his friend Bradley Hargreaves in a phone call that the two men had made up a bed for him.
At around 8.30am, Mr Slater told his friend Lucy Law in a phone call he was walking back to his accommodation after missing a bus.
He told Ms Law he only had 1% battery - meaning it would have been too late for him to phone for a taxi if he became lost.
On Friday 28 June, Mr Hargreaves told ITV's This Morning he had video calls with the 19-year-old as he tried to walk back to Los Cristianos.
Mr Hargreaves said the teenager had left the road and he saw his feet sliding on rocks. He added that Mr Slater went down a "little drop" in one of his last video calls.
So...only an hour passed between him not being 'missing', he's on Snapchat at 7.30am, and him having just 1% battery at 8.30am, calling Lucy as he starts to walk back home, but then managing to video call Bradley on several occasions, after this time, whilst he was supposedly walking back?? Where did the battery life come from, to video call??
Something doesn't add up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 1, 2024 17:15:00 GMT
Just reading a 'what do we know?' piece off Sky News which states: Mr Slater reportedly shared a Snapchat photo at 7.30am on the morning he went missing showing himself with colourful fabric around him. He later told his friend Bradley Hargreaves in a phone call that the two men had made up a bed for him. At around 8.30am, Mr Slater told his friend Lucy Law in a phone call he was walking back to his accommodation after missing a bus. He told Ms Law he only had 1% battery - meaning it would have been too late for him to phone for a taxi if he became lost. On Friday 28 June, Mr Hargreaves told ITV's This Morning he had video calls with the 19-year-old as he tried to walk back to Los Cristianos. Mr Hargreaves said the teenager had left the road and he saw his feet sliding on rocks. He added that Mr Slater went down a "little drop" in one of his last video calls. So...only an hour passed between him not being 'missing', he's on Snapchat at 7.30am, and him having just 1% battery at 8.30am, calling Lucy as he starts to walk back home, but then managing to video call Bradley on several occasions, after this time, whilst he was supposedly walking back?? Where did the battery life come from, to video call?? Something doesn't add up. Get Jim Bergerac out there, he’ll sort it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 17:18:04 GMT
Just reading a 'what do we know?' piece off Sky News which states: Mr Slater reportedly shared a Snapchat photo at 7.30am on the morning he went missing showing himself with colourful fabric around him. He later told his friend Bradley Hargreaves in a phone call that the two men had made up a bed for him. At around 8.30am, Mr Slater told his friend Lucy Law in a phone call he was walking back to his accommodation after missing a bus. He told Ms Law he only had 1% battery - meaning it would have been too late for him to phone for a taxi if he became lost. On Friday 28 June, Mr Hargreaves told ITV's This Morning he had video calls with the 19-year-old as he tried to walk back to Los Cristianos. Mr Hargreaves said the teenager had left the road and he saw his feet sliding on rocks. He added that Mr Slater went down a "little drop" in one of his last video calls. So...only an hour passed between him not being 'missing', he's on Snapchat at 7.30am, and him having just 1% battery at 8.30am, calling Lucy as he starts to walk back home, but then managing to video call Bradley on several occasions, after this time, whilst he was supposedly walking back?? Where did the battery life come from, to video call?? Something doesn't add up. Get Jim Bergerac out there, he’ll sort it He only works Sunday nights, the lazy git!!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 1, 2024 17:19:27 GMT
Get Jim Bergerac out there, he’ll sort it He only works Sunday nights, the lazy git!! Works all day everyday on U.K. Drama
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 1, 2024 17:40:53 GMT
Just reading a 'what do we know?' piece off Sky News which states: Mr Slater reportedly shared a Snapchat photo at 7.30am on the morning he went missing showing himself with colourful fabric around him. He later told his friend Bradley Hargreaves in a phone call that the two men had made up a bed for him. At around 8.30am, Mr Slater told his friend Lucy Law in a phone call he was walking back to his accommodation after missing a bus. He told Ms Law he only had 1% battery - meaning it would have been too late for him to phone for a taxi if he became lost. On Friday 28 June, Mr Hargreaves told ITV's This Morning he had video calls with the 19-year-old as he tried to walk back to Los Cristianos. Mr Hargreaves said the teenager had left the road and he saw his feet sliding on rocks. He added that Mr Slater went down a "little drop" in one of his last video calls. So...only an hour passed between him not being 'missing', he's on Snapchat at 7.30am, and him having just 1% battery at 8.30am, calling Lucy as he starts to walk back home, but then managing to video call Bradley on several occasions, after this time, whilst he was supposedly walking back?? Where did the battery life come from, to video call?? Something doesn't add up. Get Jim Bergerac out there, he’ll sort it No moble phones in Jim's day. Need Vera and her crack team of tekky whiz kids.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 1, 2024 17:44:33 GMT
Get Jim Bergerac out there, he’ll sort it No moble phones in Jim's day. Need Vera and her crack team of tekky whiz kids. Jim success is based on instinct, nothing more. He’d laugh at you for suggesting mobile phones
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 1, 2024 17:47:12 GMT
No moble phones in Jim's day. Need Vera and her crack team of tekky whiz kids. Jim success is based on instinct, nothing more. He’d laugh at you for suggesting mobile phones Maybe. Instinct and unlimited access to Charlie Hungerford's Range Rover. Vera's got her own wheels for mountain terrain.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 1, 2024 17:48:54 GMT
Jim success is based on instinct, nothing more. He’d laugh at you for suggesting mobile phones Maybe. Instinct and unlimited access to Charlie Hungerford's Range Rover. Vera's got her own wheels for mountain terrain. I suppose it wouldn’t hurt for Vera to be around for when Jim demands a brew. Bob Lovejoy wouldn’t mess about either.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 1, 2024 17:55:26 GMT
Maybe. Instinct and unlimited access to Charlie Hungerford's Range Rover. Vera's got her own wheels for mountain terrain. I suppose it wouldn’t hurt for Vera to be around for when Jim demands a brew. Bob Lovejoy wouldn’t mess about either. Now I know you're bluffing. No-one ever know Lovejoy's first name and unless there was a deal on an antique or a legover in it for him he'd be nowhere near given his pathologicsl distrust of authority following a stint in HMP having been framed.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 1, 2024 17:56:33 GMT
I suppose it wouldn’t hurt for Vera to be around for when Jim demands a brew. Bob Lovejoy wouldn’t mess about either. Now I know you're bluffing. No-one ever know Lovejoy's first name and unless there was a deal on an antique or a legover in it for him he'd be nowhere near given his pathologicsl distrust of authority following a stint in HMP having been framed. Rumbled
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