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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 9, 2024 6:55:38 GMT
Got married 16th June 1990, reception was in a marquee in her parents back garden. She removed the plugs off the two telly's in the house to stop interlopers (my mates) watching. So they smuggled in one of those ancient mini tv/tape player, radio things and had it under the bar to watch Holland (I think) while serving guests and me. I'm in the process of getting divorced so that worked out well, great tournament. The Italian community in Bedford where i worked had a whale of a time.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jun 9, 2024 8:37:23 GMT
I was 12 and remember walking home from school excited about watching the first game. It was a mental way to start the tournament...the red cards, violent tackles from Cameroon, yet somehow they beat the world champions. Definitely one of the non-England games that stands out in the memory.
I'm sure I watched every game in Italia 90. I doubt I've been able to do that for any tournament since.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jun 9, 2024 8:49:53 GMT
The answer is Rangers. Woods, Stevens, Steven & Butcher.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 9, 2024 9:03:13 GMT
Second to 82 for me. A great tournament. To be honest I thought was a really poor tournament. Was at a lot of games and a bit of a let down. England got to the semi winning only 1 game in normal time, Ireland got to the quarters, didn't win a game in 90 mins, Argentina stumbled to the final. Italy for me were the best team in it but quality wise it was pretty lousy. I think the excitement of going so far in both England and Ireland overshadowed the standard of the games which was great to be part of. 82 was the best World Cup ever for me The football was often poor but the sheer drama was incredible. England and Ireland being so involved was a huge part though.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 9, 2024 9:41:10 GMT
To be honest I thought was a really poor tournament. Was at a lot of games and a bit of a let down. England got to the semi winning only 1 game in normal time, Ireland got to the quarters, didn't win a game in 90 mins, Argentina stumbled to the final. Italy for me were the best team in it but quality wise it was pretty lousy. I think the excitement of going so far in both England and Ireland overshadowed the standard of the games which was great to be part of. 82 was the best World Cup ever for me The football was often poor but the sheer drama was incredible. England and Ireland being so involved was a huge part though. Remember Brazil being absolutely crap
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2024 9:41:12 GMT
To be honest I thought was a really poor tournament. Was at a lot of games and a bit of a let down. England got to the semi winning only 1 game in normal time, Ireland got to the quarters, didn't win a game in 90 mins, Argentina stumbled to the final. Italy for me were the best team in it but quality wise it was pretty lousy. I think the excitement of going so far in both England and Ireland overshadowed the standard of the games which was great to be part of. 82 was the best World Cup ever for me The football was often poor but the sheer drama was incredible. England and Ireland being so involved was a huge part though. Plus Scotland losing to Costa Rica
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 9, 2024 9:47:47 GMT
Here’s some goals to reminisce
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Post by noustie on Jun 9, 2024 10:18:20 GMT
The football was often poor but the sheer drama was incredible. England and Ireland being so involved was a huge part though. Plus Scotland losing to Costa Rica Saw an interesting interview with Andy Roxburgh where he prided himself on knowing the opposition inside out. They sent a team of scouts to Costa Rica months ahead of the tournament. They reported back initially the local league wasn’t up to much but subsequently learned the National squad was in a compound media and scouts couldn’t access. There wasn’t much footage of the qualifying so we went in entirely blind. Set pieces we were initially marking by numbers as hadn’t a fucking clue. Them playing 5-3-2 came as a shock too and couldn’t get hold of their best player playing middle of a three - we were better second half but conceded early and couldn’t get back. Played really well other two games in fairness. Just seems totally incongruous now that a team in the World Cup could fly under the radar - there’s hours of footage these days on YouTube. Unfortunately we were not able to match the mighty England’s magnificent 0-0 draw with them in 2014 but such is 😉
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2024 10:23:20 GMT
Plus Scotland losing to Costa Rica Saw an interesting interview with Andy Roxburgh where he prided himself on knowing the opposition inside out. They sent a team of scouts to Costa Rica months ahead of the tournament. They reported back initially the local league wasn’t up to much but subsequently learned the National squad was in a compound media and scouts couldn’t access. There wasn’t much footage of the qualifying so we went in entirely blind. Set pieces we were initially marking by numbers as hadn’t a fucking clue. Them playing 5-3-2 came as a shock too and couldn’t get hold of their best player playing middle of a three - we were better second half but conceded early and couldn’t get back. Played really well other two games in fairness. Just seems totally incongruous now that a team in the World Cup could fly under the radar - there’s hours of footage these days on YouTube. Unfortunately we were not able to match the mighty England’s magnificent 0-0 draw with them in 2014 but such is 😉 Costa Rica win over Scotland was a launch pad for - relatively) future success Scotland did all right in their other two games but to lose, and play so badly, was standard World Cup stuff from Scotland Scotland are the weak team in the Euros this summer, a win for them will be seen as a shock I think they might sneak a 0.0 v Germany but suspect they will lose 0.1 probably to a dodgy goal
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Post by noustie on Jun 9, 2024 10:25:12 GMT
It’s weird what you remember- we were in primary school and had swimming at Clough Hall. Can’t remember the Kick off time but must have been 4 or 5 as everyone was rushing get dried and dressed then stood waiting on the girls for fucking ages!
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Post by noustie on Jun 9, 2024 10:27:13 GMT
Saw an interesting interview with Andy Roxburgh where he prided himself on knowing the opposition inside out. They sent a team of scouts to Costa Rica months ahead of the tournament. They reported back initially the local league wasn’t up to much but subsequently learned the National squad was in a compound media and scouts couldn’t access. There wasn’t much footage of the qualifying so we went in entirely blind. Set pieces we were initially marking by numbers as hadn’t a fucking clue. Them playing 5-3-2 came as a shock too and couldn’t get hold of their best player playing middle of a three - we were better second half but conceded early and couldn’t get back. Played really well other two games in fairness. Just seems totally incongruous now that a team in the World Cup could fly under the radar - there’s hours of footage these days on YouTube. Unfortunately we were not able to match the mighty England’s magnificent 0-0 draw with them in 2014 but such is 😉 Costa Rica win over Scotland was a launch pad for - relatively) future success Scotland did all right in their other two games but to lose, and play so badly, was standard World Cup stuff from Scotland Scotland are the weak team in the Euros this summer, a win for them will be seen as a shock I think they might sneak a 0.0 v Germany but suspect they will lose 0.1 probably to a dodgy goal I reckon morale boosting defeat v Germany; boring as fuck 0-0 v Switzerland then shit the bed v Hungary. Seen the script before 😂
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 9, 2024 10:36:08 GMT
I remember arriving in Genoa think it was and it was rammed with female Brazilians..wasn't all bad.
Didn't Mo Jo.miss a great chance late on for Scotland V Brazil?
Queued up for 4 hours to get tickets for Ireland V Romania in the heat . Some seriously sunburned redheads after I think. One lad with us was a Villa fan so went to England V Belgium..David Platt scoring made it sweeter for him. Stayed in Rimini seem to remember, can't remember where that game was.
Couldn't get in the ground for Ireland V Italy in Rome. Tried everything including joining and following a random crowd into a side entrance but were rumbled asked for passes. Was 6 feet from getting in ...not sure as what
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2024 12:22:52 GMT
I remember arriving in Genoa think it was and it was rammed with female Brazilians..wasn't all bad. Didn't Mo Jo.miss a great chance late on for Scotland V Brazil? Queued up for 4 hours to get tickets for Ireland V Romania in the heat . Some seriously sunburned redheads after I think. One lad with us was a Villa fan so went to England V Belgium..David Platt scoring made it sweeter for him. Stayed in Rimini seem to remember, can't remember where that game was. Couldn't get in the ground for Ireland V Italy in Rome. Tried everything including joining and following a random crowd into a side entrance but were rumbled asked for passes. Was 6 feet from getting in ...not sure as what Queuing for tickets. It was the last of the old style world cups. After Belgium a load of people just went to Italy on special. And most got tickets.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 9, 2024 12:34:42 GMT
Maradona and Gullit regarded as the best players in the World at the time but Lothar Mattheus was the best player in that tourny
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2024 12:44:55 GMT
Maradona and Gullit regarded as the best players in the World at the time but Lothar Mattheus was the best player in that tourny He was mate. True great. He's one of the overlooked great. Rummenigge is the same.
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2024 13:09:52 GMT
Maradona and Gullit regarded as the best players in the World at the time but Lothar Mattheus was the best player in that tourny The Dutch were one of the favourites, rightly after winning the Euros in style, but they were terrible
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 9, 2024 13:26:44 GMT
I remember arriving in Genoa think it was and it was rammed with female Brazilians..wasn't all bad. Didn't Mo Jo.miss a great chance late on for Scotland V Brazil? Queued up for 4 hours to get tickets for Ireland V Romania in the heat . Some seriously sunburned redheads after I think. One lad with us was a Villa fan so went to England V Belgium..David Platt scoring made it sweeter for him. Stayed in Rimini seem to remember, can't remember where that game was. Couldn't get in the ground for Ireland V Italy in Rome. Tried everything including joining and following a random crowd into a side entrance but were rumbled asked for passes. Was 6 feet from getting in ...not sure as what Queuing for tickets. It was the last of the old style world cups. After Belgium a load of people just went to Italy on special. And most got tickets. Outside the stadium they wont on sale at 9 or 10 am. When we got there was already 2 or 300 deep and the nearby shop emptied of drink. Was plenty in Cagliari with no tickets for Ireland V England before the game , seem to remember was pouring down. I remember a lad in a Huddersfield T shirt relieving a local tout of his tickets in his own way. We got ours from the FAI before travelling but had no 1/4 final tickets. Can't remember where we got tickets for England V Belgium, don't think was sold out.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jun 9, 2024 13:33:57 GMT
I think there's a number of things which makes the memories of Italia 90 probably greater than they actually were. The fact that England did well and were a whisker away from the final (despite not actually playing that well and only winning one game in normal time). Inspiring underdog stories with Cameroon and Ireland. The iconic stadia and Nessum Dorma as the tournament theme song. And probably most importantly, nostalgia for our youth.
We remember being young, either young blokes on the piss, maybe even travelling to the tournament. Or like myself, a kid for whom this was the first tournament I can remember. It reminds us of the freedom and excitement of youth. No/few responsibilities, endless free time, good health and more of our lives in front of us than behind us. Nostalgia for youth can often lead to rose tinted spectacles and elevate average experiences into fantastic ones.
Like others have said, USA 94 was a better tournament. But England not being there combined with it being hosted in a shit country that's not interested in football with less convenient kick off times means that it's not remembered anywhere near as fondly.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 9, 2024 14:07:34 GMT
I think there's a number of things which makes the memories of Italia 90 probably greater than they actually were. The fact that England did well and were a whisker away from the final (despite not actually playing that well and only winning one game in normal time). Inspiring underdog stories with Cameroon and Ireland. The iconic stadia and Nessum Dorma as the tournament theme song. And probably most importantly, nostalgia for our youth. We remember being young, either young blokes on the piss, maybe even travelling to the tournament. Or like myself, a kid for whom this was the first tournament I can remember. It reminds us of the freedom and excitement of youth. No/few responsibilities, endless free time, good health and more of our lives in front of us than behind us. Nostalgia for youth can often lead to rose tinted spectacles and elevate average experiences into fantastic ones. Like others have said, USA 94 was a better tournament. But England not being there combined with it being hosted in a shit country that's not interested in football with less convenient kick off times means that it's not remembered anywhere near as fondly. For a country not interested, the crowds were fantastic in the USA. I think with England not being there then maybe they didn't have as much interest in watching it . Was a great tournament all round. 90 and S Africa the worst I can remember by a long way
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2024 14:17:24 GMT
I think there's a number of things which makes the memories of Italia 90 probably greater than they actually were. The fact that England did well and were a whisker away from the final (despite not actually playing that well and only winning one game in normal time). Inspiring underdog stories with Cameroon and Ireland. The iconic stadia and Nessum Dorma as the tournament theme song. And probably most importantly, nostalgia for our youth. We remember being young, either young blokes on the piss, maybe even travelling to the tournament. Or like myself, a kid for whom this was the first tournament I can remember. It reminds us of the freedom and excitement of youth. No/few responsibilities, endless free time, good health and more of our lives in front of us than behind us. Nostalgia for youth can often lead to rose tinted spectacles and elevate average experiences into fantastic ones. Like others have said, USA 94 was a better tournament. But England not being there combined with it being hosted in a shit country that's not interested in football with less convenient kick off times means that it's not remembered anywhere near as fondly. For a country not interested, the crowds were fantastic in the USA. I think with England not being there then maybe they didn't have as much interest in watching it . Was a great tournament all round. 90 and S Africa the worst I can remember by a long way Usa world cup remains the highest attended ever. Average crowds of 68,000. Next time tickets will be rare because now they've heard of soccer. Oops I meant football. Oops I meant nogger
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 9, 2024 14:59:36 GMT
Maradona and Gullit regarded as the best players in the World at the time but Lothar Mattheus was the best player in that tourny The Dutch were one of the favourites, rightly after winning the Euros in style, but they were terrible Yep they were never able to replicate 88 Van Basten’s injuries may have started to kick in (though he did score frequently for Milan in the next 2 seasons). Not sure if Gullit might have had injury problems aswell Wasnt until Bergkamp came though that they started to look decent again (92 in patches and 94)
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Post by Veritas on Jun 9, 2024 15:04:16 GMT
I think there's a number of things which makes the memories of Italia 90 probably greater than they actually were. The fact that England did well and were a whisker away from the final (despite not actually playing that well and only winning one game in normal time). Inspiring underdog stories with Cameroon and Ireland. The iconic stadia and Nessum Dorma as the tournament theme song. And probably most importantly, nostalgia for our youth. We remember being young, either young blokes on the piss, maybe even travelling to the tournament. Or like myself, a kid for whom this was the first tournament I can remember. It reminds us of the freedom and excitement of youth. No/few responsibilities, endless free time, good health and more of our lives in front of us than behind us. Nostalgia for youth can often lead to rose tinted spectacles and elevate average experiences into fantastic ones. Like others have said, USA 94 was a better tournament. But England not being there combined with it being hosted in a shit country that's not interested in football with less convenient kick off times means that it's not remembered anywhere near as fondly. I agree Italia 90 overall was not a great competition with Spain 82 and particularly Mexico 70 being the best I have watched, unfortunately just that bit too young to have appreciated 1966.
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Post by noustie on Jun 9, 2024 15:11:51 GMT
South Africa was the worst for me but next worst USA 94. I was 14 so should be right in my sweet spot but apart from Bulgaria thought it was a bit wank. The heat made the games seem really slow.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jun 9, 2024 15:16:42 GMT
Here’s some goals to reminisce Some absolute belters in that montage and some great names too.👍 Sublime touch from Stojković,was criminally underrated,that Yugoslavia team was full of great 'mavericks' but got flattened by an incredible German side? The Giannini goal had more than a hint of Batistuta about it too.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 9, 2024 15:37:24 GMT
Here’s some goals to reminisce Some absolute belters in that montage and some great names too.👍 Sublime touch from Stojković,was criminally underrated,that Yugoslavia team was full of great 'mavericks' but got flattened by an incredible German side? The Giannini goal had more than a hint of Batistuta about it too. Stojkovic and Savicevic were the stars of the great Yogoslavia team Lacatus, Hagi, Tomas Skhuravy and of course Roger Milla other memorable players from that WC
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2024 17:38:05 GMT
The Dutch were one of the favourites, rightly after winning the Euros in style, but they were terrible Yep they were never able to replicate 88 Van Basten’s injuries may have started to kick in (though he did score frequently for Milan in the next 2 seasons). Not sure if Gullit might have had injury problems aswell Wasnt until Bergkamp came though that they started to look decent again (92 in patches and 94) I think they simply all argued with each other
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 9, 2024 17:57:44 GMT
Maradona and Gullit regarded as the best players in the World at the time but Lothar Mattheus was the best player in that tourny The Dutch were one of the favourites, rightly after winning the Euros in style, but they were terrible To be fair Lorders they were fortunate in 88 Lost their opening game then only went through in the group courtesy of a very late, offside goal. After that they clicked
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Post by Veritas on Jun 9, 2024 19:09:48 GMT
The Dutch were one of the favourites, rightly after winning the Euros in style, but they were terrible To be fair Lorders they were fortunate in 88 Lost their opening game then only went through in the group courtesy of a very late, offside goal. After that they clicked And won courtesy of one of the greatest tournament goals of all times.
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Post by neckender78 on Jun 9, 2024 19:55:02 GMT
I think there's a number of things which makes the memories of Italia 90 probably greater than they actually were. The fact that England did well and were a whisker away from the final (despite not actually playing that well and only winning one game in normal time). Inspiring underdog stories with Cameroon and Ireland. The iconic stadia and Nessum Dorma as the tournament theme song. And probably most importantly, nostalgia for our youth. We remember being young, either young blokes on the piss, maybe even travelling to the tournament. Or like myself, a kid for whom this was the first tournament I can remember. It reminds us of the freedom and excitement of youth. No/few responsibilities, endless free time, good health and more of our lives in front of us than behind us. Nostalgia for youth can often lead to rose tinted spectacles and elevate average experiences into fantastic ones. Like others have said, USA 94 was a better tournament. But England not being there combined with it being hosted in a shit country that's not interested in football with less convenient kick off times means that it's not remembered anywhere near as fondly. Yeah spot on, it was a magical tournament the first world cup I can remember watching properly and getting swept up with Englands success and Gazzamania. Remember the pitches were so green and the Stadiums so modern looking. Definitely rose tinted glasses of our youth mean so much. The 90s were great, the Lou era at the Victoria Ground will never be beaten for me. None of our Premier League time for me could match the 90s at the Vic growing up and everything around it with mates for life.
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Post by generationex on Jun 9, 2024 20:15:31 GMT
What a summer in Stoke that was. The city was furiously alive in 88-90, peak acid house and Stoke was a driving force behind that culture.
Admittedly it helped that I was 21, a student with no responsibilities and never out of the (then) numerous city clubs, the hacienda or the Left Bank bar with a cast of rogues and slightly wrong ‘uns. I watched half the games in there and it was a mix of pills, thrills and belly aches. In a vintage Brazil shirt, flares and curtains hair cut. It was a thing then kids for you start.
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