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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 2, 2024 17:54:43 GMT
I hold my hands up. I cursed and bitched about him from minute one when he passed straight to their winger as he tried to play out. I slated him after the header for their goal. And told anyone who would listen (nobody as it happened) how he’s at the root of our problems. But…..in hindsight…. 1. He actually played alright. 2. It was completely and utterly Viks fault that they equalised. Was he on his way over to the dugout for a drink or something!!!??? 3. The winner after that = bollocks + desire and a healthy helping of character. So yeah. I’m not fully convinced but I was wrong today. The one thing with Vik is he does have a ricket in him with positioning every now and again. Remember that goal against West Brom where he got his positioning all wrong and the ball went over his head? Not to criticise him too much, he has been fantastic for us overall and we'd be in the bottom three without him. Maybe these occasional mistakes will make it easier to keep hold of him and keep the Premier League scouts away? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:55:14 GMT
Slow, error prone, can’t pass. He was dogshit and the epitome of the slow, over the hill old fuckers we sign far too often. He needs fucking off asap. Wilmot in? He’s the best right back we have sadly. Rose is a better than the pair of them. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:56:42 GMT
He’s the best right back we have sadly. Rose is a better than the pair of them. Rose is dreadful, Wilmot should play right back definitely yes until we can get another. For me I’d just figure out who Phillips plays best with out of Gibson and Rose and play them. Phillips has to play |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:57:43 GMT
He’s the best right back we have sadly. Rose is a better than the pair of them. Rose is dreadful, Wilmot should play right back definitely yes until we can get another. For me I’d just figure out who Phillips plays best with out of Gibson and Rose and play them. Phillips has to play Rose is much better than Gibson and Wilmot at centre half. Philips is the best centre half at the club by a mile. Why it’s taken this long to get him in the side is anyone’s guess. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2024 17:59:22 GMT
I hold my hands up. I cursed and bitched about him from minute one when he passed straight to their winger as he tried to play out. I slated him after the header for their goal. And told anyone who would listen (nobody as it happened) how he’s at the root of our problems. But…..in hindsight…. 1. He actually played alright. 2. It was completely and utterly Viks fault that they equalised. Was he on his way over to the dugout for a drink or something!!!??? 3. The winner after that = bollocks + desire and a healthy helping of character. So yeah. I’m not fully convinced but I was wrong today. It definitely wasn’t completely Johansson’s fault, Gibson headed it back with pace without looking where Vik was. Without knowing what was communicated on the pitch it’s impossible to know who was definitely to blame, probably both but you don’t just do what Gibson did Look at where Vik was. It’s his fault imo. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:59:42 GMT
Rose is dreadful, Wilmot should play right back definitely yes until we can get another. For me I’d just figure out who Phillips plays best with out of Gibson and Rose and play them. Phillips has to play Rose is much better than Gibson and Wilmot at centre half. Philips is the best centre half at the club by a mile. Why it’s taken this long to get him in the side is anyone’s guess. The amount of mistakes Rose made last season I don’t see that at all, they’re all pretty similar really and we need better. There’s a reason Rose is 29 and has never played for Scotland though |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 18:00:12 GMT
It definitely wasn’t completely Johansson’s fault, Gibson headed it back with pace without looking where Vik was. Without knowing what was communicated on the pitch it’s impossible to know who was definitely to blame, probably both but you don’t just do what Gibson did Look at where Vik was. It’s his fault imo. Just because he’s out of position doesn’t mean you head it into your own goal, it’s an easy clearance |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 18:00:41 GMT
Rose is much better than Gibson and Wilmot at centre half. Philips is the best centre half at the club by a mile. Why it’s taken this long to get him in the side is anyone’s guess. The amount of mistakes Rose made last season I don’t see that at all, they’re all pretty similar really and we need better. There’s a reason Rose is 29 and has never played for Scotland though Rose is shit. The other two are shitter. Ideally none of them should be here. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 18:06:49 GMT
The amount of mistakes Rose made last season I don’t see that at all, they’re all pretty similar really and we need better. There’s a reason Rose is 29 and has never played for Scotland though Rose is shit. The other two are shitter. Ideally none of them should be here. Exactly so play whichever gets the best out of Phillips, which may be Gibson just because of his experience |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 2, 2024 18:07:35 GMT
The amount of mistakes Rose made last season I don’t see that at all, they’re all pretty similar really and we need better. There’s a reason Rose is 29 and has never played for Scotland though Rose is shit. The other two are shitter. Ideally none of them should be here. It must be tough being you Bayern whether it’s politics or footy no one will ever live up to your expectations. I guess it’s why the likes of Bobby Moore, Maradona and yourself never make top managers because compared to their skills everyone else is shit in comparison however hard they try.  |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 2, 2024 18:08:35 GMT
Liability this guy totally his fault for goal headed it back without looking where vic was and should be wide of the goal not on target. He’s rubbish
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Post by thornestein on Nov 2, 2024 18:14:08 GMT
I hold my hands up. I cursed and bitched about him from minute one when he passed straight to their winger as he tried to play out. I slated him after the header for their goal. And told anyone who would listen (nobody as it happened) how he’s at the root of our problems. But…..in hindsight…. 1. He actually played alright. 2. It was completely and utterly Viks fault that they equalised. Was he on his way over to the dugout for a drink or something!!!??? 3. The winner after that = bollocks + desire and a healthy helping of character. So yeah. I’m not fully convinced but I was wrong today. It definitely wasn’t completely Johansson’s fault, Gibson headed it back with pace without looking where Vik was. Without knowing what was communicated on the pitch it’s impossible to know who was definitely to blame, probably both but you don’t just do what Gibson did that was some of the problem , Gibson didn’t know where his keeper was , as a player you need be aware of what’s around you , for me he takes some of the blame |
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Post by Davef on Nov 2, 2024 18:15:41 GMT
Liability this guy totally his fault for goal headed it back without looking where vic was and should be wide of the goal not on target. He’s rubbish It wasn't TOTALLY his fault. Johansson didn't call for the ball, that's evident from Gibson's reaction after the goal and you don't need to be an expert lip reader to work that out. |
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Post by figo85 on Nov 2, 2024 18:19:52 GMT
Gibson has very little composure. It was evident in last weeks gaff and again today. He just seems to panic and doesn’t read what’s going on.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Nov 2, 2024 18:25:24 GMT
Gibson has very little composure. It was evident in last weeks gaff and again today. He just seems to panic and doesn’t read what’s going on. They all panic, they all regularly misread what’s going on. It’s pretty simple in my eyes, we’ve barely played a set back 4 in years. The manager really needs to decide what his best pairing is and stick with it but whenever that seems to be happening one of them picks up a knock. Philips will cover a lot of sins if he can get a solid run of games. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 2, 2024 18:29:06 GMT
Liability this guy totally his fault for goal headed it back without looking where vic was and should be wide of the goal not on target. He’s rubbish It wasn't TOTALLY his fault. Johansson didn't call for the ball, that's evident from Gibson's reaction after the goal and you don't need to be an expert lip reader to work that out. Whether he called or not Dave any back pass should be wide of the goal and he played it blind. Maybe it’s my dislike for Gibson that’s shaded my judgement |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2024 18:37:20 GMT
Look at where Vik was. It’s his fault imo. Just because he’s out of position doesn’t mean you head it into your own goal, it’s an easy clearance You head it to where the keeper should be. Agreed that Gibson isn’t blameless but Vik is so far out of position it’s ridiculous. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Nov 2, 2024 18:38:54 GMT
Look at where Vik was. It’s his fault imo. Just because he’s out of position doesn’t mean you head it into your own goal, it’s an easy clearance You don’t expect your keeper to wander so far wide though. Gibson has made plenty of errors this season but I don’t think you can blame him for the goal. He had an attacker pretty close to him & he dealt with it calmly, just unfortunately the keeper had gone for a walkabout. |
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Post by thicknthin on Nov 2, 2024 19:31:16 GMT
Just because he’s out of position doesn’t mean you head it into your own goal, it’s an easy clearance You don’t expect your keeper to wander so far wide though. Gibson has made plenty of errors this season but I don’t think you can blame him for the goal. He had an attacker pretty close to him & he dealt with it calmly, just unfortunately the keeper had gone for a walkabout. I disagree, You never play a back pass on target, especially if you do not know where the keeper is. Basics! |
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Post by doctortheopolis on Nov 2, 2024 20:08:18 GMT
Call me old fashioned but maybe head the fucker forward into midfield instead of trying to be clever and steer it back to the keeper. If he was 5 yards away and wanted to chest it back then fair enough but he wasn't, it was a daft decision and left Vic scrambling over to try and stop it. Whether Vic could have done better or not I don't know but being right behind it in the south stand, most people around us were of the same opinion that it was piss poor from Gibson. Thankfully it didn't cost us but it was a calamity goal.
The only way Derby would score though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2024 5:05:06 GMT
Rose is shit. The other two are shitter. Ideally none of them should be here. It must be tough being you Bayern whether it’s politics or footy no one will ever live up to your expectations. I guess it’s why the likes of Bobby Moore, Maradona and yourself never make top managers because compared to their skills everyone else is shit in comparison however hard they try. Phillips seems to every time I watch him. The others just aren’t good enough. They’re back up players at best and we have 3 of the fuckers. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2024 5:07:30 GMT
Just because he’s out of position doesn’t mean you head it into your own goal, it’s an easy clearance You head it to where the keeper should be. Agreed that Gibson isn’t blameless but Vik is so far out of position it’s ridiculous. It’s an absolute basic that you don’t pass the ball back between the sticks. Both were at fault but why Gibson just isn’t heading it back from where it came is anyone’s guess. And if you do head it back you don’t under any circumstances put it on target. It’s just so basic. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 3, 2024 7:39:21 GMT
You head it to where the keeper should be. Agreed that Gibson isn’t blameless but Vik is so far out of position it’s ridiculous. It’s an absolute basic that you don’t pass the ball back between the sticks. Both were at fault but why Gibson just isn’t heading it back from where it came is anyone’s guess. And if you do head it back you don’t under any circumstances put it on target. It’s just so basic. Not as basic as a keeper staying between his posts. Every time I watch it it’s more obvious that Vik fucked up. He completely misjudged the long ball. It was never going to reach him. Gibson fucked up on several occasions yesterday but the goal is mainly on the keeper. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 3, 2024 7:41:58 GMT
Call me old fashioned but maybe head the fucker forward into midfield instead of trying to be clever and steer it back to the keeper. If he was 5 yards away and wanted to chest it back then fair enough but he wasn't, it was a daft decision and left Vic scrambling over to try and stop it. Whether Vic could have done better or not I don't know but being right behind it in the south stand, most people around us were of the same opinion that it was piss poor from Gibson. Thankfully it didn't cost us but it was a calamity goal. The only way Derby would score though. Gibson was facing our goal. Was he supposed to swivel his head like an owl!!??? I’m amazed that Vik is getting such an easy ride. If that was Bonham the reaction would have been completely different. |
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Post by thornestein on Nov 3, 2024 7:49:28 GMT
Call me old fashioned but maybe head the fucker forward into midfield instead of trying to be clever and steer it back to the keeper. If he was 5 yards away and wanted to chest it back then fair enough but he wasn't, it was a daft decision and left Vic scrambling over to try and stop it. Whether Vic could have done better or not I don't know but being right behind it in the south stand, most people around us were of the same opinion that it was piss poor from Gibson. Thankfully it didn't cost us but it was a calamity goal. The only way Derby would score though. Gibson was facing our goal. Was he supposed to swivel his head like an owl!!??? I’m amazed that Vik is getting such an easy ride. If that was Bonham the reaction would have been completely different. if he was facing the goal why wasn’t he aware where the keeper was as good player would be , he takes as much blame as the goalkeeper |
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Post by doctortheopolis on Nov 3, 2024 8:32:00 GMT
Call me old fashioned but maybe head the fucker forward into midfield instead of trying to be clever and steer it back to the keeper. If he was 5 yards away and wanted to chest it back then fair enough but he wasn't, it was a daft decision and left Vic scrambling over to try and stop it. Whether Vic could have done better or not I don't know but being right behind it in the south stand, most people around us were of the same opinion that it was piss poor from Gibson. Thankfully it didn't cost us but it was a calamity goal. The only way Derby would score though. Gibson was facing our goal. Was he supposed to swivel his head like an owl!!??? I’m amazed that Vik is getting such an easy ride. If that was Bonham the reaction would have been completely different. I've just watched the goal back for my own sanity as I'd had a few light ales yesterday and he isn't facing our goal. He's watching the direction of play as he runs so isn't looking at the keeper at all. If he was, he would have known where the keeper was and wouldn't have headed it where he headed it! Hes got a Derby player on his shoulder as he heads the ball so fuck knows why he's even thinking of attempting a header like that. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 3, 2024 8:41:30 GMT
Gibson was facing our goal. Was he supposed to swivel his head like an owl!!??? I’m amazed that Vik is getting such an easy ride. If that was Bonham the reaction would have been completely different. if he was facing the goal why wasn’t he aware where the keeper was as good player would be , he takes as much blame as the goalkeeper It’s poor defending but not as poor as the goalkeeping. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 3, 2024 8:42:34 GMT
Gibson was facing our goal. Was he supposed to swivel his head like an owl!!??? I’m amazed that Vik is getting such an easy ride. If that was Bonham the reaction would have been completely different. I've just watched the goal back for my own sanity as I'd had a few light ales yesterday and he isn't facing our goal. He's watching the direction of play as he runs so isn't looking at the keeper at all. If he was, he would have known where the keeper was and wouldn't have headed it where he headed it! Hes got a Derby player on his shoulder as he heads the ball so fuck knows why he's even thinking of attempting a header like that. He’s not looking at the keeper because the keeper isn’t there. He’s virtually next to the linesman 😂😂 |
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Post by kerouac on Nov 3, 2024 8:44:45 GMT
Him,Wilmot and Rose are my whipping boys for the obvious reason that they are all shite,but the genuine relief and desire from Gibson with that equaliser points to why he’s in the team probably.
Problem is,we need more than a Mr Motivator as captain and central defender…you’ve actually got to be able to play football too.
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Post by thornestein on Nov 3, 2024 9:01:17 GMT
if he was facing the goal why wasn’t he aware where the keeper was as good player would be , he takes as much blame as the goalkeeper It’s poor defending but not as poor as the goalkeeping. 50/50 |
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