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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 28, 2024 11:39:25 GMT
He was laughable on Saturday. We had 2 kick offs inside 15 mins, both were rolled back to him and he booted both straight into the stand. And then the second goal. Mates with Walters? Who then got his inexperienced coach mate the job? Is this actually the reality or just conspiracy fiction? |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 28, 2024 12:03:58 GMT
Danny Batth was decent but most fans thought he was shit yet he’s still playing well elsewhere. He was and is fucking awful. He’s a lot better than what we have now that is for sure |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 28, 2024 12:04:42 GMT
He was laughable on Saturday. We had 2 kick offs inside 15 mins, both were rolled back to him and he booted both straight into the stand. And then the second goal. Mates with Walters? Who then got his inexperienced coach mate the job? Is this actually the reality or just conspiracy fiction? Regardless of who he is mates with our thick twat of a chairman should have said I am not sanctioning another expensive long contract for someone over the age of 30. And if you don't like it, the doors over there. Yet here we are again. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 28, 2024 12:10:44 GMT
There’s no doubt he’s had a few poor games of late but some of the reaction on here towards him is way OTT for me. For starters he’s the captain and Pelach’s trusted player on the pitch so I doubt very much we’ll see him dropped for league games anytime soon Honestly mate I hate him I don’t think this reaction is over the top at all he has been our worst defender all season. Against Bristol he was terrible and blowing out of his arse and thought he was coming off a one point but no. That at the weekend if I was manager would never put a Stoke shirt on again at that time in the 2nd half was a game changing peice of shit. At 1-0 we were always in it |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 28, 2024 12:17:36 GMT
Over rated & over paid
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 28, 2024 12:31:34 GMT
and Over here. Are we still talking about Gibson or Yanks in the 2nd World War? |
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Post by onionman on Oct 28, 2024 12:44:37 GMT
Mates with Walters? Who then got his inexperienced coach mate the job? Is this actually the reality or just conspiracy fiction? Regardless of who he is mates with our thick twat of a chairman should have said I am not sanctioning another expensive long contract for someone over the age of 30. And if you don't like it, the doors over there. Yet here we are again. Especially when Jon Walters himself made a big song and dance about how this exact kind of signing has crippled the club. I suspect he's too thick to realise he's making the same mistakes he's accused others of making, and he desperately needs someone above him with a bit of sense telling him not to do it. Yet he's the boss, so doesn't have to answer to anyone. This is why you should never appoint inexperienced egotistical people as senior managers. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2024 13:41:10 GMT
He was and is fucking awful. He’s a lot better than what we have now that is for sure He’s not. A lot worse defensively than people want to remember and the weak link in MoN’s team that the opposition would target. I actually think Rose is really underrated on here. He’s an ok centre half. Not good enough to be starting regularly but a good back up. Phillips needs to play more. And I’m shocked he hasn’t. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Oct 28, 2024 13:49:13 GMT
He’s a lot better than what we have now that is for sure He’s not. A lot worse defensively than people want to remember and the weak link in MoN’s team that the opposition would target. I actually think Rose is really underrated on here. He’s an ok centre half. Not good enough to be starting regularly but a good back up. Phillips needs to play more. And I’m shocked he hasn’t. Phillips should start every game but Pelach sounded like a Spanish Tony Pulis when he was talking about him after the game |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 28, 2024 13:57:23 GMT
He’s not. A lot worse defensively than people want to remember and the weak link in MoN’s team that the opposition would target. I actually think Rose is really underrated on here. He’s an ok centre half. Not good enough to be starting regularly but a good back up. Phillips needs to play more. And I’m shocked he hasn’t. Phillips should start every game but Pelach sounded like a Spanish Tony Pulis when he was talking about him after the game Gooaaarrn Juan? |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 28, 2024 14:33:37 GMT
The only good centre halves we’ve had in this league are Souttar and Collins. Jags was ok but nothing more. And that’s about the same for anyone else that may be a contender for not being shit. But I’m struggling to think of any. Ostigard was fine until MON thought otherwise. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 28, 2024 14:41:33 GMT
The only good centre halves we’ve had in this league are Souttar and Collins. Jags was ok but nothing more. And that’s about the same for anyone else that may be a contender for not being shit. But I’m struggling to think of any. Ostigard was fine until MON thought otherwise. I thought his passing was terrible. Thought we'd cracked it with him and Wilmot but they went to shit pretty rapidly. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2024 14:46:26 GMT
The only good centre halves we’ve had in this league are Souttar and Collins. Jags was ok but nothing more. And that’s about the same for anyone else that may be a contender for not being shit. But I’m struggling to think of any. Ostigard was fine until MON thought otherwise. I don’t think he was. Positionally all over the shop and got away with a lot because he beated his chest. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2024 14:48:23 GMT
He’s not. A lot worse defensively than people want to remember and the weak link in MoN’s team that the opposition would target. I actually think Rose is really underrated on here. He’s an ok centre half. Not good enough to be starting regularly but a good back up. Phillips needs to play more. And I’m shocked he hasn’t. Phillips should start every game but Pelach sounded like a Spanish Tony Pulis when he was talking about him after the game What did he say? Because for me he’s the only centre half on the books that’s ready to be playing a progressive game. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 28, 2024 14:51:42 GMT
Ostigard was fine until MON thought otherwise. I don’t think he was. Positionally all over the shop and got away with a lot because he beated his chest. Has gone on to play at a much better level though so he must be doing something right. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Oct 28, 2024 15:16:20 GMT
Phillips should start every game but Pelach sounded like a Spanish Tony Pulis when he was talking about him after the game What did he say? Because for me he’s the only centre half on the books that’s ready to be playing a progressive game. In a nutshell. He's a kiddie. Will be a great player. Got alot to learn. |
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Post by stokeyank on Oct 28, 2024 15:34:21 GMT
What did he say? Because for me he’s the only centre half on the books that’s ready to be playing a progressive game. In a nutshell. He's a kiddie. Will be a great player. Got alot to learn. As opposed to Gibson, who has learned it all, is older, and still crap? If that's our manager's view it's really not good is it!? |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 28, 2024 17:28:25 GMT
I have said it on several other threads but, for me, the biggest disappointment we signed over the summer. I had hoped his experience and leadership qualities would be really beneficial. In reality, he has been abysmal. He had made our defence worse (which I thought was impossible) and there is zero leadership on the field whatsoever. We have all heard that he has been a quality player in the past, so maybe we signed him too late, or the apparent curse of good players turning to sh*te, within a few games of signing for Stoke has struck him too. Get rid at earliest opportunity for me.
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Post by stokiejon03 on Oct 28, 2024 17:33:12 GMT
Awful signing for a lot of money. Surely must be dropped soon.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 28, 2024 17:55:56 GMT
He’s a lot better than what we have now that is for sure He’s not. A lot worse defensively than people want to remember and the weak link in MoN’s team that the opposition would target. I actually think Rose is really underrated on here. He’s an ok centre half. Not good enough to be starting regularly but a good back up. Phillips needs to play more. And I’m shocked he hasn’t. I think we have agreed to disagree on this subject before but yes I agree regards rose him and Phillips should be the partnership. As Phillips is not ours rose is our best centre half. Gibson should be locked up in kit room or something Need to keep him away from the first team |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 28, 2024 18:01:03 GMT
There’s no doubt he’s had a few poor games of late but some of the reaction on here towards him is way OTT for me. For starters he’s the captain and Pelach’s trusted player on the pitch so I doubt very much we’ll see him dropped for league games anytime soon then that’s really bad management as he’s got the worse form out of the 4 CB ‘s lately , you play your best players no matter if they’re captain or not , Laurent was dropped last season and he was Captain |
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2024 17:47:32 GMT
I hold my hands up.
I cursed and bitched about him from minute one when he passed straight to their winger as he tried to play out.
I slated him after the header for their goal. And told anyone who would listen (nobody as it happened) how he’s at the root of our problems.
But…..in hindsight….
1. He actually played alright.
2. It was completely and utterly Viks fault that they equalised. Was he on his way over to the dugout for a drink or something!!!???
3. The winner after that = bollocks + desire and a healthy helping of character.
So yeah. I’m not fully convinced but I was wrong today.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:48:09 GMT
He was fucking wank.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 2, 2024 17:50:26 GMT
I thought him and Phillips formed a very good partnership today.
Leader in the dressing room like Pelach said after
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Post by mattythestokie on Nov 2, 2024 17:50:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2024 17:52:00 GMT
Slow, error prone, can’t pass. He was dogshit and the epitome of the slow, over the hill old fuckers we sign far too often. He needs fucking off asap. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:52:11 GMT
I thought him and Phillips formed a very good partnership today. Leader in the dressing room like Pelach said after Phillips has to play for me and if it helps him to play alongside Gibson I’m fine with that |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 2, 2024 17:52:30 GMT
Slow, error prone, can’t pass. He was dogshit and the epitome of the slow, over the hill old fuckers we sign far too often. He needs fucking off asap. Can't disagree with that. |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:53:29 GMT
I hold my hands up. I cursed and bitched about him from minute one when he passed straight to their winger as he tried to play out. I slated him after the header for their goal. And told anyone who would listen (nobody as it happened) how he’s at the root of our problems. But…..in hindsight…. 1. He actually played alright. 2. It was completely and utterly Viks fault that they equalised. Was he on his way over to the dugout for a drink or something!!!??? 3. The winner after that = bollocks + desire and a healthy helping of character. So yeah. I’m not fully convinced but I was wrong today. It definitely wasn’t completely Johansson’s fault, Gibson headed it back with pace without looking where Vik was. Without knowing what was communicated on the pitch it’s impossible to know who was definitely to blame, probably both but you don’t just do what Gibson did |
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Post by LphPotter on Nov 2, 2024 17:54:09 GMT
Slow, error prone, can’t pass. He was dogshit and the epitome of the slow, over the hill old fuckers we sign far too often. He needs fucking off asap. Wilmot in? |
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