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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 16, 2024 18:34:48 GMT
I’d pay it in pennies and drop them off outside the FA headquarters in Bet365 branded wheelbarrows with a caricature of Peter Coates piloting a jet powered space phallus on the side of each one of them.
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Post by cheadlestokie on May 16, 2024 18:45:33 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died!
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Post by willieeetmiout on May 16, 2024 18:45:45 GMT
Anything to take the attention away from the standard of their officials. The chair is a Cheshire referee with a love of covert policing....
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Post by yellowsnowman on May 16, 2024 18:49:59 GMT
I cnt believe this. Ridiculous. The F.A are a bunch of morons.
Proper pathetic.
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Post by apb1 on May 16, 2024 18:52:03 GMT
I am not going to read it but when you consider the abominable arm flapping ref-abusing cuntery every minute in the Prem they can absolutely fuck right off
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Post by Scouse on May 16, 2024 19:01:33 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died! That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Edit it’s not the one case on its own that’s grates , it the series of incidents together with our record of bookings ( which again is poor ) ..it’s making headlines for the wrong reasons
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Post by cheadlestokie on May 16, 2024 19:06:01 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died! That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Thugs and yard dogs? I am staggered. I think you are seriously over exaggerating what happened as indeed have the FA.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 16, 2024 19:13:42 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died! That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Edit it’s not the one case on its own that’s grates , it the series of incidents together with our record of bookings ( which again is poor ) ..it’s making headlines for the wrong reasons I'm just struggling to believe we're the only club in the league to have an incident on the scale of the Plymouth one at a rate of once per year. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but if somebody said 'the average club has three minor kerfuffles on the pitch per season', I would absolutely believe them. Additionally, I don't really see how we can be repeat offenders with cases cited going back to 2018. Of all of the playing and coaching staff, I think only Tyrese Campbell was at the club back then.
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Post by Scouse on May 16, 2024 19:24:41 GMT
That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Thugs and yard dogs? I am staggered. I think you are seriously over exaggerating what happened as indeed have the FA. Last word ..its a view the FA seem to hold , ( unfairly I agree ) , why mis out unsporting
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 16, 2024 19:27:01 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died! That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Edit it’s not the one case on its own that’s grates , it the series of incidents together with our record of bookings ( which again is poor ) ..it’s making headlines for the wrong reasons Good Lord.
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Post by onionman on May 16, 2024 19:29:11 GMT
That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Edit it’s not the one case on its own that’s grates , it the series of incidents together with our record of bookings ( which again is poor ) ..it’s making headlines for the wrong reasons I'm just struggling to believe we're the only club in the league to have an incident on the scale of the Plymouth one at a rate of once per year. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but if somebody said 'the average club has three minor kerfuffles on the pitch per season', I would absolutely believe them. Additionally, I don't really see how we can be repeat offenders with cases cited going back to 2018. Of all of the playing and coaching staff, I think only Tyrese Campbell was at the club back then. Even the ref told the panel it was a minor incident. They described Hoever running in as "mindless aggression". What kind of phrase is that? Who defines mindless aggression, and how can they possibly know what was going on in Hoever's mind? It's the kind of thing someone like me would post in the matchday thread after drinking 6 bottles of Pedigree, not what you'd expect from a barrister charged with writing an official report on the incident. Weird.
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Post by yellowsnowman on May 16, 2024 20:05:55 GMT
Hes a fuckwit.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 16, 2024 20:06:24 GMT
The Plymouth incident was an absolute nothing incident though, I don't even recall what the others were and I can't navigate that ridiculous Sentinel website to find out...... Please tell me what incident? I was at the game and can't remember it? Manhoef went in slightly late on the keeper, the keeper and Campbell squared up to one another, players from both teams swarmed round and there was a lot of pushing and shoving. Basically handbags at dawn…
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2024 20:20:27 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died! That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Edit it’s not the one case on its own that’s grates , it the series of incidents together with our record of bookings ( which again is poor ) ..it’s making headlines for the wrong reasons Don't want to see out and out thuggery either However it was no where near that It was great to see, more please
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on May 16, 2024 20:29:06 GMT
This is ridiculous.
In the past 6 years we've been pussycats letting other teams bully us and rarely reacting. Probably some of the least aggressive teams we've ever had. It's quite scary to think that we are characterised this way for fuck all.
Like someone else said. The reaction to the Plymouth keeper standing over Manhoef and having a go was exactly what I would expect ANY set of players to do and I was pleased that we at least stood up for a teammate.
And I get the accumulation argument but I can't remember any others and 6 times in 6 years is pitiful anyway. We've had handbags 6 times in 276 games....terrible.
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Post by flea79 on May 16, 2024 20:55:29 GMT
The only other incident I can remember was under MoN when Dean Holden ran into the away dugout to retrieve a ball for a throw and there was a mass shoving and pulling contest over the ball and maybe a punch thrown, god the good old days eh
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Post by Ron on May 16, 2024 21:07:48 GMT
It’s a small price to play for our players showing passion and desire for a change
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Post by Gods on May 16, 2024 22:25:38 GMT
That is quite enlightening. Some of the language seems strangely informal - talking about our "utterly dreadful record" and Hoever's actions being "totally not necessary". It also raised an eyebrow that in the commission's judgement Stoke had a responsibility to implement special trouble-avoiding measures purely for the fact that their head coach elected to move from them to us not long ago. Doesn't seem a very fair expectation. I've never had the impression we're particularly bad with discipline like this, surprises me we're apparently repeat offenders... I don't think there are gradations of not necessary. Something is either not necessary or it is not!
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Post by onionman on May 16, 2024 22:31:00 GMT
That is quite enlightening. Some of the language seems strangely informal - talking about our "utterly dreadful record" and Hoever's actions being "totally not necessary". It also raised an eyebrow that in the commission's judgement Stoke had a responsibility to implement special trouble-avoiding measures purely for the fact that their head coach elected to move from them to us not long ago. Doesn't seem a very fair expectation. I've never had the impression we're particularly bad with discipline like this, surprises me we're apparently repeat offenders... I don't think there are gradations of not necessary. Something is either not necessary or it is not! There’s a more concise way of saying “not necessary” too. Did anyone even read this through before filing it?
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Post by Gods on May 16, 2024 22:35:13 GMT
I don't think there are gradations of not necessary. Something is either not necessary or it is not! There’s a more concise way of saying “not necessary” too. Did anyone even read this through before filing it? You are quite right, there is another word, but it escapes me!
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 22:37:16 GMT
I'm just struggling to believe we're the only club in the league to have an incident on the scale of the Plymouth one at a rate of once per year. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but if somebody said 'the average club has three minor kerfuffles on the pitch per season', I would absolutely believe them. Additionally, I don't really see how we can be repeat offenders with cases cited going back to 2018. Of all of the playing and coaching staff, I think only Tyrese Campbell was at the club back then. Even the ref told the panel it was a minor incident. They described Hoever running in as "mindless aggression". What kind of phrase is that? Who defines mindless aggression, and how can they possibly know what was going on in Hoever's mind? It's the kind of thing someone like me would post in the matchday thread after drinking 6 bottles of Pedigree, not what you'd expect from a barrister charged with writing an official report on the incident. Weird. Yeah that's another good example to go with "utterly dreadful". It's one thing to say "excessive" or "unwarranted" aggression, but "mindless" is a subjective value judgement stated in a frankly quite derogatory way. Surely shouldn't have any place in a formal report like that. If nothing else it really is terribly written.
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Post by GrahamHyde on May 17, 2024 0:25:48 GMT
Stealing a living aren't they.
What a load of fucking nonsense. Absolutely nothing in it.
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Post by s7oke on May 17, 2024 4:15:12 GMT
What a load of syphilitic steaming dog jizzum that report is. A bit like the majority of the referees that attend games for them
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Post by theonlooker on May 17, 2024 6:26:00 GMT
A slight change of direction here but what was the final score on the door for apologetic letters from the PGMOL for refereeing mistakes against us? One assumes it's a whole load more than 5 in the last 5 year period? Are we talking more than 5 in 5 months or 5 in 5 weeks?
Did we get any financial compensation as part of that apology (don't be daft, son) or was it just a glib apology?
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Post by nottsover60 on May 17, 2024 19:08:40 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years? The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em...... Exactly, since when was roughly one incident a season, as this equates to, been utterly dreadful. I would be surprised if most teams don' t have at least one of these types of fracas every session and in the Premier some teams seem to have them more regularly than that, Arsenal for example. I think I'm right in saying that the referee's report has lots of influence in this sort of incident. It is evident that the people handing out the fine have never played football to win. To say that tempers should be more tightly controlled in a match of this importance shows a total lack of understanding of the mental pressures of being in a must win situation. In fact to me the fact that no punches were thrown, just a lot of handbags, shows passion, which is what football is about, but not loss of control. I would like them to suggest ways in which they would motivate a team to win in such an important match whilst at the same time making sure the passion doesn't boil over when provoked.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 17, 2024 19:15:42 GMT
I remember at the time being rather pleased that our players decided to support each other when the kerfuffle occurred. Someone on the thread believes this was a stain on the Club. Sorry but that is just ridiculous. Nobody died! That someone was me ..true nobody died ..not sure I suggested they did ..I just don’t like the club being thought of unsporting , thugs or yard dogs .. though I accept others arnt so choosy Me I prefer ( our ) club to play and behave with & by certain standards , let’s be honest we’ve had precious little else to shout about in our history , on this occassion we fell below those standards , that others have different standards & views , I can live with that .. Edit it’s not the one case on its own that’s grates , it the series of incidents together with our record of bookings ( which again is poor ) ..it’s making headlines for the wrong reasons I have argued above that it is nothing unusual and I can't believe that we are the only club to average one fracas like that a season. It just seems that we get charged more than other clubs. It was not thuggish behaviour, no punches were thrown and no player was sent off or even faced a retrospective ban for their behaviour. Mountain out of a molehill springs to mind.
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Post by Fred Ferret on May 17, 2024 19:54:21 GMT
The FA - r-soles the lot of them.
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Post by Fred Ferret on May 17, 2024 20:00:50 GMT
A slight change of direction here but what was the final score on the door for apologetic letters from the PGMOL for refereeing mistakes against us? One assumes it's a whole load more than 5 in the last 5 year period? Are we talking more than 5 in 5 months or 5 in 5 weeks? Did we get any financial compensation as part of that apology (don't be daft, son) or was it just a glib apology? We got sweet FA
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Post by tuum on May 17, 2024 20:30:22 GMT
That is quite enlightening. Some of the language seems strangely informal - talking about our "utterly dreadful record" and Hoever's actions being "totally not necessary". It also raised an eyebrow that in the commission's judgement Stoke had a responsibility to implement special trouble-avoiding measures purely for the fact that their head coach elected to move from them to us not long ago. Doesn't seem a very fair expectation. I've never had the impression we're particularly bad with discipline like this, surprises me we're apparently repeat offenders... I don't think there are gradations of not necessary. Something is either not necessary or it is not! Yeah, but...yeah,but!!The barrister sounds like Vicky Pollard.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on May 17, 2024 20:32:49 GMT
I remember being absolutely fucking delighted Hoever came into back Campbell up.
They must know our wealth given fines out for that handbags.
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