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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on May 14, 2024 13:41:46 GMT
He speaks about Stoke from 1:25:47
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Post by spitthedog on May 14, 2024 14:02:48 GMT
A case of great guy...wrong appointment.
I like how he doesn't put anyone down, make excuses or pin blame on others. I really wanted him to succeed.
Very complimentary about the club and the senior pros. (Ryan, Glen, Crouchy)
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Post by Marc01 on May 14, 2024 14:16:19 GMT
A case of great guy...wrong appointment. I like how he doesn't put anyone down, make excuses or pin blame on others. I really wanted him to succeed. Very complimentary about the club and the senior pros. Impossible to prove but reckon we would have spent more wisely and set up a far better first season and foundation in the Championship had he stayed. |
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Post by spitthedog on May 14, 2024 14:19:02 GMT
A case of great guy...wrong appointment. I like how he doesn't put anyone down, make excuses or pin blame on others. I really wanted him to succeed. Very complimentary about the club and the senior pros. Impossible to prove but reckon we would have spent more wisely and set up a far better first season and foundation in the Championship had he stayed. He was definitely the wrong appointment, but very hard to imagine that he could have been worse than Rowett or Jones. |
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Post by skiptomylou on May 14, 2024 14:22:42 GMT
Thought he was very unlucky in his time here.
He set us up as hard to beat and try and nick a goal.
He couldn't do anything else with the squad we had. We were getting twatted on a regular basis under Hughes.
Pure individual errors cost him, that and I thought he should of brought bojan back on January too.
Nice bloke though.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 14, 2024 14:26:27 GMT
As soon as the announcement was made he was taking over I accepted relegation.
A pathetic, cowardly appointment which set the tone for the 6 years of shit we’ve seen since.
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Post by wuzza on May 14, 2024 14:35:58 GMT
As above - a few stupid individual errors are the difference between him being derided (by some) and being a bit of a hero.
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Post by Marc01 on May 14, 2024 14:41:40 GMT
As soon as the announcement was made he was taking over I accepted relegation. A pathetic, cowardly appointment which set the tone for the 6 years of shit we’ve seen since. Would it have been “a pathetic and cowardly” appointment if a few of the players had simply done their job and avoided basic errors v Brighton Leicester Everton West Ham More than 6 points frittered away there. 4 points was all that was needed. Who would you have gone for as boss back then? |
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 14:42:23 GMT
A case of great guy...wrong appointment. I like how he doesn't put anyone down, make excuses or pin blame on others. I really wanted him to succeed. Very complimentary about the club and the senior pros. Impossible to prove but reckon we would have spent more wisely and set up a far better first season and foundation in the Championship had he stayed. I'd give that about the same chance as us staying up if we'd kept Hughes and not appointed Lambert. |
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Post by theonlooker on May 14, 2024 14:46:57 GMT
Watched it earlier. Spoke very well but reading between the lines he's very old skool and possibly explains why the game has left him behind.
Fascinating to hear that he was fed up and wanted to quit after getting Norwich to the PL as he just wants to win and not settle for celebrating safety etc.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on May 14, 2024 14:53:48 GMT
We may as well have kept Hughes. I never really 'got' the appointment, and I don't think Lambert was on anyone's radar at the time, when we were wondering who would be coming in.
I found the decision to entrust him with our PL status, but to then not trust him in the Championship, a little bizarre, and who knows, if we'd given him that first season back down, we'd perhaps be in a better place now?
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Post by canadianmoose on May 14, 2024 15:00:04 GMT
He would have done better than Rowett or Jones IMHO
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Post by Bagwash on May 14, 2024 15:01:12 GMT
Imho,I reckon Mark Hughes would have kept us up if he had not been sacked.....then I would have got rid.
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 15:11:41 GMT
We may as well have kept Hughes. I never really 'got' the appointment, and I don't think Lambert was on anyone's radar at the time, when we were wondering who would be coming in. I found the decision to entrust him with our PL status, but to then not trust him in the Championship, a little bizarre, and who knows, if we'd given him that first season back down, we'd perhaps be in a better place now? It was a bottom-of-the-barrel appointment made in sheer panic after failing to get QSF, MON and Rowett(!) and not knowing where the F to turn |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 14, 2024 15:14:11 GMT
As soon as the announcement was made he was taking over I accepted relegation. A pathetic, cowardly appointment which set the tone for the 6 years of shit we’ve seen since. Would it have been “a pathetic and cowardly” appointment if a few of the players had simply done their job and avoided basic errors v Brighton Leicester Everton West Ham More than 6 points frittered away there. 4 points was all that was needed. Who would you have gone for as boss back then? Bielsa |
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Post by Pugsley on May 14, 2024 15:18:45 GMT
Thought he was very unlucky in his time here. He set us up as hard to beat and try and nick a goal. He couldn't do anything else with the squad we had. We were getting twatted on a regular basis under Hughes. Pure individual errors cost him, that and I thought he should of brought bojan back on January too. Nice bloke though. Negative approach led us to be relegated. We only needed to win 2 of the three games we drew to be safe. A pathetic appointment and approach. Still, he knew all the players..... |
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Post by Gods on May 14, 2024 15:19:33 GMT
A case of great guy...wrong appointment. I like how he doesn't put anyone down, make excuses or pin blame on others. I really wanted him to succeed. Very complimentary about the club and the senior pros. (Ryan, Glen, Crouchy) I liked him too. Very sad that it did not work out. |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 14, 2024 15:25:31 GMT
I’ve said it before it wasn’t his fault. Hughes left us with a disorganised squad
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Post by skiptomylou on May 14, 2024 15:34:20 GMT
Thought he was very unlucky in his time here. He set us up as hard to beat and try and nick a goal. He couldn't do anything else with the squad we had. We were getting twatted on a regular basis under Hughes. Pure individual errors cost him, that and I thought he should of brought bojan back on January too. Nice bloke though. Negative approach led us to be relegated. We only needed to win 2 of the three games we drew to be safe. A pathetic appointment and approach. Still, he knew all the players..... If the attacking approach was working, we wouldnt of needed to change manager the in the first place. If butland hadn't decided to throw the ball in his own net v Leicester, if crouch hadnt decided to boot the ball into the center of the pitch from the left back position in the dying mins v West Ham, if Adam had scored his penalty or the rebound v Brighton we'd of stayed up. His tactics weren't the problem. The players were. Fact is, the squad wasn't good enough. Lambert is just an easy Scapegoat. Lambert was no where near the club in the summer, which was when the so called senior pros have gone on record and said they knew they were in trouble. |
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Post by telfordstokie on May 14, 2024 15:55:17 GMT
Agree that it was both a pathetic appointment (which was immediately obvious at the time) but we also probably should have given him a shot in the Championship rather than opting for Rowett (which is benefit of hindsight talking).
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 15:55:43 GMT
I’ve said it before it wasn’t his fault. Hughes left us with a disorganised squad Well of course he did, that's why he got the sack. Big deal. Lambert came in with one job, to make us a tiny bit better and scrape enough points to keep our head above the water. He failed dismally. People going on about "only" four points... we weren't even close to staying up. If we exclude the Swansea last-day dead rubber, Lambert's fourteen meaningful games in charge were by far our worst run of form *that* season. In a season that was already absolute torture, he made us worse. Even with the Swansea game Leslie generally outperformed him form-wise by winning double the number of games. Nice guy but right up there with the most disastrous managers ever to darken our doorstep, the mind just boggles that he gets defended on here. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 14, 2024 16:07:59 GMT
I didn’t think we’d stoop so low as appointing him.
What a cluster fuck.
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2024 16:09:28 GMT
As soon as the announcement was made he was taking over I accepted relegation. A pathetic, cowardly appointment which set the tone for the 6 years of shit we’ve seen since. Yes but that wasn't his fault |
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2024 16:12:17 GMT
As soon as the announcement was made he was taking over I accepted relegation. A pathetic, cowardly appointment which set the tone for the 6 years of shit we’ve seen since. Would it have been “a pathetic and cowardly” appointment if a few of the players had simply done their job and avoided basic errors v Brighton Leicester Everton West Ham More than 6 points frittered away there. 4 points was all that was needed. Who would you have gone for as boss back then? + Burnley at home, Diouf missed open goal from about 4 feet out Lamberts tactics were simply to get everyone to run ab out more, get Bauer up the pitch & give the ball to Shaqiri & it very nearly worked Obviously we should have appointed Potter at that point (& again in the summer) I don't hold any grudge against Lambert, nice guy just not up to the job |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 14, 2024 16:41:01 GMT
I’ve said it before it wasn’t his fault. Hughes left us with a disorganised squad Well of course he did, that's why he got the sack. Big deal. Lambert came in with one job, to make us a tiny bit better and scrape enough points to keep our head above the water. He failed dismally. People going on about "only" four points... we weren't even close to staying up. If we exclude the Swansea last-day dead rubber, Lambert's fourteen meaningful games in charge were by far our worst run of form *that* season. In a season that was already absolute torture, he made us worse. Even with the Swansea game Leslie generally outperformed him form-wise by winning double the number of games. Nice guy but right up there with the most disastrous managers ever to darken our doorstep, the mind just boggles that he gets defended on here. of course it’s a big deal like when neil left us a squad that nearly got relegated from the championship. Now I wasn’t best happy when we appointed lambert but like I said ultimately it wasn’t his fault it was the club’s fault and I guess lambert told butland to throw the ball in his own net against Leicester and for Adam missing that pen against Brighton. Unlucky to concede a late goal against West Ham. In answer to your last paragraph he might scrape into the top 5 or 6 woohoo |
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 16:46:21 GMT
Well of course he did, that's why he got the sack. Big deal. Lambert came in with one job, to make us a tiny bit better and scrape enough points to keep our head above the water. He failed dismally. People going on about "only" four points... we weren't even close to staying up. If we exclude the Swansea last-day dead rubber, Lambert's fourteen meaningful games in charge were by far our worst run of form *that* season. In a season that was already absolute torture, he made us worse. Even with the Swansea game Leslie generally outperformed him form-wise by winning double the number of games. Nice guy but right up there with the most disastrous managers ever to darken our doorstep, the mind just boggles that he gets defended on here. of course it’s a big deal like when neil left us a squad that nearly got relegated from the championship. Now I wasn’t best happy when we appointed lambert but like I said ultimately it wasn’t his fault it was the club’s fault and I guess lambert told butland to throw the ball in his own net against Leicester and for Adam missing that pen against Brighton. Unlucky to concede a late goal against West Ham. In answer to your last paragraph he might scrape into the top 5 or 6 woohoo I mean there's plenty blame to go round but Lambert shoulders more than his fair share. Taking context and everything into account I think him, Kamara and Jones are the three worst we've had. |
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Post by bigvern on May 14, 2024 16:50:54 GMT
The moment I knew we were fucked was when Butland threw it in his own net again Leicester.
Shaq nearly kept us up on his own.
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2024 17:20:14 GMT
of course it’s a big deal like when neil left us a squad that nearly got relegated from the championship. Now I wasn’t best happy when we appointed lambert but like I said ultimately it wasn’t his fault it was the club’s fault and I guess lambert told butland to throw the ball in his own net against Leicester and for Adam missing that pen against Brighton. Unlucky to concede a late goal against West Ham. In answer to your last paragraph he might scrape into the top 5 or 6 woohoo I mean there's plenty blame to go round but Lambert shoulders more than his fair share. Taking context and everything into account I think him, Kamara and Jones are the three worst we've had. Brian Little and Alan Ball |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on May 14, 2024 17:27:41 GMT
The moment I knew we were fucked was when Butland threw it in his own net again Leicester. Shaq nearly kept us up on his own. That Butland effort felt like the beginning of the end. He turned to absolute shit, over time. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 14, 2024 17:28:36 GMT
Would it have been “a pathetic and cowardly” appointment if a few of the players had simply done their job and avoided basic errors v Brighton Leicester Everton West Ham More than 6 points frittered away there. 4 points was all that was needed. Who would you have gone for as boss back then? Bielsa Can't see how he would have done a better job with the squad we had, not really the right group for how he likes to play. |
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