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Post by johan14 on May 20, 2024 20:50:01 GMT
Stockport away is definitely last Saturday in July
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Post by nott1 on May 20, 2024 21:39:54 GMT
I told 'em.....remember that one? Whatever happened to them? Oldham, it Wrexham ... I think you misunderstand, I was referring to an old tv ad from decades ago which featured batteries made by Oldham . The script said "I told 'em Oldham"
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Post by Northy on May 21, 2024 6:30:40 GMT
I think you misunderstand, I was referring to an old ancient tv ad from decades ago which featured batteries made by Oldham . The script said "I told 'em Oldham" I've corrected it for you No, I don't remember that one
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Post by nott1 on May 21, 2024 7:03:48 GMT
I think you misunderstand, I was referring to an old ancient tv ad from decades ago which featured batteries made by Oldham . The script said "I told 'em Oldham" I've corrected it for you No, I don't remember that one As Pulis would say " you're just a kiddie". I assume, it was a long time ago!
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Post by mano00001 on May 21, 2024 10:36:52 GMT
When is it the tour due to be announced?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on May 21, 2024 14:13:09 GMT
My guess Crewe Chester Stockport And a trip to Ireland 😉😉 You haven't got the lottery numbers for me have you mate?
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Post by cotswoldstokie on May 27, 2024 6:29:29 GMT
It was mentioned that we’d have a prem team at home the week before the season starts on 9/10/11 Aug - I note Wolves don’t have a game pencilled in on that date. Oldham Athletic was also mentioned and they’ve released details of seven games - six games inked in plus Tues 30th July is down as TBC with a mention of the game being away (but no opponent) - could be to throw us off the scent. It would be nice to hear the rest of them - ireland (South) but when? Waterford mentioned Any more hints from oatcakers?
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Post by AlanHansen on May 28, 2024 10:52:20 GMT
It's getting more than a bit annoying now, season after season, it's the same every year. Cork was great, so somewhere over there again would tick a few boxes. But as stated on this thread accommodation over there isn't cheap and there'll be flights etc. to sort and if somewhere like Waterford there's no airport so other planning too. Just let us know FFS, it doesn't have to be well into June before you tell us. Last season in Spain was pretty straight forward, as long as you'd sorted a cab out in advance for after the game. We didn't get any real details on the game until the 23rd of June. Albeit from memory we knew roughly the location just before then.
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Post by musik on May 28, 2024 22:55:39 GMT
Leek Town Merthyr Tydfil Arminia Bielefeld Cork City Bohemians Gais Stockport County Everton
Anyone else? 🤔
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2024 6:46:11 GMT
It's getting more than a bit annoying now, season after season, it's the same every year. Cork was great, so somewhere over there again would tick a few boxes. But as stated on this thread accommodation over there isn't cheap and there'll be flights etc. to sort and if somewhere like Waterford there's no airport so other planning too. Just let us know FFS, it doesn't have to be well into June before you tell us. Last season in Spain was pretty straight forward, as long as you'd sorted a cab out in advance for after the game. We didn't get any real details on the game until the 23rd of June. Albeit from memory we knew roughly the location just before then. 45+ years of friendlies means I’ve been literally hundreds of such games over the years .. despite countless regime & manager changes etc the one constant that remains is the late notice .. bar an odd exception Age of the internet makes life a doddle compared to the 70/80s , last year being one of the simpler ones , all info released by 8th June Ive ‘some’ sympathy with the club being reluctant to send fans off hard cocked on wild goose chases only for plans to be changed . I’ve been foreign games with 3, 2 even 1 days notice ..venue changes over the years have been common , the venue for one game in Switzerland was changed 3 times on the day of the game , but my sympathy only stretches so far as delay invariably limits options and puts up the price and some of the clock and dagger stuff is frankly unbecoming These days with cheap travel and more travelling , especially to the show game , I genuinely do understand it’s a potential PR nightmare for the club .. clearly very few would take my attitude of it being part of the adventure and let the buyer beware if things changed very last minute and money was wasted , mines a defence mechanism that shouldn’t be needed if I have to start chucking extra stupid levels of £s at the problem Effectively I’ll go anywhere in the world they play , ( tho never easy planning a budget a year in advance for a game against Stockport that turns into a long haul plus 2 or 3 trips to Europe ) , Ireland would be ok , but just ok and certainly not my preferred choice ( nor was Benidorm 🤮) , so personally hope it doesn’t become a regular thing ..clubs habits tend to run in cycles and become a bit one track minded when it comes to preseason So we sit and wait and the clock ticks and prices continue to go up
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2024 7:12:33 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it?
If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season.
I think that shows and makes sense.
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 29, 2024 7:24:25 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it? If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season. I think that shows and makes sense. Yes, it’s about the preparation, that’s the priority, but when you can achieve all that AND play what’s usually the final match in that programme somewhere where many fans will attend, enjoy and remember fondly eg Cologne, Hamburg, Leipzig, then why not. Many on here enjoy these trips.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2024 7:28:59 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it? If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season. I think that shows and makes sense. Yes, it’s about the preparation, that’s the priority, but when you can achieve all that AND play what’s usually the final match in that programme somewhere where many fans will attend, enjoy and remember fondly eg Cologne, Hamburg, Leipzig, then why not. Many on here enjoy these trips. I’m sure they do. Again though if I was working at a football club unless it was a home game against someone decent where I could take your money I wouldn’t give a shit what you liked tbh. 🤣
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 29, 2024 7:33:58 GMT
Yes, it’s about the preparation, that’s the priority, but when you can achieve all that AND play what’s usually the final match in that programme somewhere where many fans will attend, enjoy and remember fondly eg Cologne, Hamburg, Leipzig, then why not. Many on here enjoy these trips. I’m sure they do. Again though if I was working at a football club unless it was a home game against someone decent where I could take your money I wouldn’t give a shit what you liked tbh. 🤣 Guess it’s a good thing you don’t work at a football club then, especially not ours. IMHO Home pre season games are the worst of all options.
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Post by LGH87 on May 29, 2024 7:36:16 GMT
Never really got the clamour to follow Stoke in pre-season. The matches are half paced, boring affairs, in fact I don't think I've ever lasted the full 90 of any friendly I've attended.
If you want a city break on the piss, then choose one and go haha why does it have to include Stoke?
You'll have 46+ matches that actually matter to attend come August.
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2024 7:46:03 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it? If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season. I think that shows and makes sense. Absolutely.. Durban when asked once why he didn’t publicise friendlies ( including mid season friendlies we use to play back then due to finding a playable pitch in the winter ) famously replied ..because I don’t want you there He did go on to explain that fans might not always be aware of new systems , partnerships he was trying out .. and against lower opposition would always expect a win ..which was nonsense of course And didn’t have an answer when asked why don’t you make them private behind closed doors games then , rather than public games & that fans go a) to watch their team , but also visit places / grounds they might go to otherwise The same still applies today ..announce they’ll be no public games from the off ..id campaign ( vigorously ) for them to change that view , but at least people would know where they stand
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2024 7:49:26 GMT
I’m sure they do. Again though if I was working at a football club unless it was a home game against someone decent where I could take your money I wouldn’t give a shit what you liked tbh. 🤣 Guess it’s a good thing you don’t work at a football club then, especially not ours. IMHO Home pre season games are the worst of all options. And the club may agree or disagree but for very different reasons. Again, pre season isn’t about the fans.
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Post by LphPotter on May 29, 2024 7:55:50 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it? If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season. I think that shows and makes sense. I agree with pre season not being about the fans from the clubs point of view but don’t get what you mean about not wanting fans near it? What’s the harm?
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2024 10:15:37 GMT
Never really got the clamour to follow Stoke in pre-season. The matches are half paced, boring affairs, in fact I don't think I've ever lasted the full 90 of any friendly I've attended. If you want a city break on the piss, then choose one and go haha why does it have to include Stoke? You'll have 46+ matches that actually matter to attend come August. Personally I like to a) travel .. b ) and visit new grounds , preferably with Stoke .. I certainly don’t confine my travels to just football .just about to go to SE Asia for 4 weeks ( back for preseason , wherever that proves to be ) .though it has to be said football has taken me to places that would have otherwise been well down my bucket list or not even on it and most haven proven worthwhile Though totally take your point re city breaks etc .not sure why some hope for those , fortunately over the years Stoke have played very few big stadium or show games .the majority of our games have been played in much smaller towns or village settings well of the ‘normal’ tourist trail and have been far more enjoyable for it
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Post by LGH87 on May 29, 2024 10:50:19 GMT
Never really got the clamour to follow Stoke in pre-season. The matches are half paced, boring affairs, in fact I don't think I've ever lasted the full 90 of any friendly I've attended. If you want a city break on the piss, then choose one and go haha why does it have to include Stoke? You'll have 46+ matches that actually matter to attend come August. Personally I like to a) travel .. b ) and visit new grounds , preferably with Stoke .. I certainly don’t confine my travels to just football .just about to go to SE Asia for 4 weeks ( back for preseason , wherever that proves to be ) .though it has to be said football has taken me to places that would have otherwise been well down my bucket list or not even on it and most haven proven worthwhile Though totally take your point re city breaks etc .not sure why some hope for those , fortunately over the years Stoke have played very few big stadium or show games .the majority of our games have been played in much smaller towns or village settings well of the ‘normal’ tourist trail and have been far more enjoyable for it For me, the trip to these smaller towns and villages would be ruined by the fans
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Post by Northy on May 29, 2024 11:15:32 GMT
Never really got the clamour to follow Stoke in pre-season. The matches are half paced, boring affairs, in fact I don't think I've ever lasted the full 90 of any friendly I've attended. If you want a city break on the piss, then choose one and go haha why does it have to include Stoke? You'll have 46+ matches that actually matter to attend come August. Because most city breaks in the summer doesn't have footy matches on so you can visit a new ground, especially with Stoke. some people like the camaraderie of being with fellow fans, if you don't then you just don't go.
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Post by Northy on May 29, 2024 11:19:46 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it? If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season. I think that shows and makes sense. Why does it have to be 1 or the other, the training camp is for the players, a friendly is for the players and fans, it's about the club engaging with supporters at a level they wouldn't normally do at a league match, about the club reconnecting with the fans at a level of interest that has been lost over the years, players relaxing and having a bit of fun after the intense period of the training camp, and fans enjoying being away from the normal day to day grind at something they enjoy, a football match.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2024 12:32:41 GMT
Pre season isn’t really about fans is it? If I was working at a football club I wouldn’t particularly want fans anywhere near pre season. I think that shows and makes sense. Why does it have to be 1 or the other, the training camp is for the players, a friendly is for the players and fans, it's about the club engaging with supporters at a level they wouldn't normally do at a league match, about the club reconnecting with the fans at a level of interest that has been lost over the years, players relaxing and having a bit of fun after the intense period of the training camp, and fans enjoying being away from the normal day to day grind at something they enjoy, a football match. An open training session at the Brit does that. The rest is just a bit needy from fans imo.
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Post by Scouse on May 29, 2024 12:43:07 GMT
Personally I like to a) travel .. b ) and visit new grounds , preferably with Stoke .. I certainly don’t confine my travels to just football .just about to go to SE Asia for 4 weeks ( back for preseason , wherever that proves to be ) .though it has to be said football has taken me to places that would have otherwise been well down my bucket list or not even on it and most haven proven worthwhile Though totally take your point re city breaks etc .not sure why some hope for those , fortunately over the years Stoke have played very few big stadium or show games .the majority of our games have been played in much smaller towns or village settings well of the ‘normal’ tourist trail and have been far more enjoyable for it For me, the trip to these smaller towns and villages would be ruined by the fans Fortunately far fewer tend to go the smaller ones ..though a couple of incidents in Austria was possibly the reason one year why Scholes / Stoke wouldn’t confirm a game was being played there ..Against the Turkish Champions until the day of the game ..about 15 still turned up
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Post by Northy on May 29, 2024 13:14:48 GMT
Why does it have to be 1 or the other, the training camp is for the players, a friendly is for the players and fans, it's about the club engaging with supporters at a level they wouldn't normally do at a league match, about the club reconnecting with the fans at a level of interest that has been lost over the years, players relaxing and having a bit of fun after the intense period of the training camp, and fans enjoying being away from the normal day to day grind at something they enjoy, a football match. An open training session at the Brit does that. The rest is just a bit needy from fans imo. the open training session is normally on a work day when most people are at work, needy my fookin arse, it's a great time away imo
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 29, 2024 16:14:52 GMT
Why does it have to be 1 or the other, the training camp is for the players, a friendly is for the players and fans, it's about the club engaging with supporters at a level they wouldn't normally do at a league match, about the club reconnecting with the fans at a level of interest that has been lost over the years, players relaxing and having a bit of fun after the intense period of the training camp, and fans enjoying being away from the normal day to day grind at something they enjoy, a football match. An open training session at the Brit does that. The rest is just a bit needy from fans imo. No it doesn’t, some fans (not you obviously) really enjoy away games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2024 16:17:32 GMT
An open training session at the Brit does that. The rest is just a bit needy from fans imo. No it doesn’t, some fans (not you obviously) really enjoy away games. Pre season isn’t about the fans enjoying an away game. Again the club shouldn’t give a shit about that. Agree with Scouse that they should be more up front with that but it’s not what pre season is for.
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Post by lordb on May 29, 2024 17:20:55 GMT
No it doesn’t, some fans (not you obviously) really enjoy away games. Pre season isn’t about the fans enjoying an away game. Again the club shouldn’t give a shit about that. Agree with Scouse that they should be more up front with that but it’s not what pre season is for. It's not the primary function no but pissing supporters, and the most ardent loyal supporters at that, is incredibly stupid PR As soon as the club know they should announce the friendlies
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 29, 2024 17:34:11 GMT
Pre season isn’t about the fans enjoying an away game. Again the club shouldn’t give a shit about that. Agree with Scouse that they should be more up front with that but it’s not what pre season is for. It's not the primary function no but pissing supporters, and the most ardent loyal supporters at that, is incredibly stupid PR As soon as the club know they should announce the friendlies I don’t think it is. In the grand scheme of things it makes little difference because you know they’ll still turn up when it matters and don’t care if they don’t during pre season.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 29, 2024 17:37:59 GMT
It's not the primary function no but pissing supporters, and the most ardent loyal supporters at that, is incredibly stupid PR As soon as the club know they should announce the friendlies I don’t think it is. In the grand scheme of things it makes little difference because you know they’ll still turn up when it matters and don’t care if they don’t during pre season. What is your actual issue here? If the club doesn't want fans at the games they can simply arrange behind closed doors games. If that's not the case then announce the fixtures with enough time for people to make arrangements to go and watch if they so wish.......
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