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Post by shrewspotter on May 28, 2024 6:28:26 GMT
We should have kept him for sure and if we had him today I'm sure we would
But at the time we were making poor decision after poor decision, McClean was favoured not only him but then Doughty too
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Post by foxysgloves on May 28, 2024 6:34:21 GMT
And yet Jacob Brown has played more Premier League games than him. Mind blowing. It’s not even close to being player of the year in the Belgian second division. Unlike Kane, this lad wins individual awards and titles. Class. Amazing what a bit of experience can do for a player.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2024 7:06:14 GMT
It’s not even close to being player of the year in the Belgian second division. Unlike Kane, this lad wins individual awards and titles. Class. Amazing what a bit of experience can do for a player. Nah it’s just his quality.
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Post by baconburger on May 28, 2024 8:27:43 GMT
It’s not even close to being player of the year in the Belgian second division. Unlike Kane, this lad wins individual awards and titles. Class. Amazing what a bit of experience can do for a player. They obviously need to play to fulfil their potential. It’s about finding a place to do that. You’ve only got to look at Lookman just because he’s blossomed now doesn’t mean whoever was Everton manager should have just played him after they bought him from Charlton for £10M.
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Post by femark on May 28, 2024 8:36:54 GMT
Scottish PL without Rangers and Celtic perhaps. Not even that Scottish championship standard TeamForm has the league ranked 75th out of 100 european leagues, which is below League 2 (71st) but above Scottish Championship (95th) www.teamform.com/en/league-ranking/europe
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Post by jokker on May 28, 2024 15:45:55 GMT
He just wasn’t very good. He had loads of tricks and flicks (which totally seduces some people into thinking they’re good players) but didn’t really do anything. Didn’t score goals, make goals or stop goals. So not sure what he was there for. To run the opposition ragged?
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Post by stokieinlondon on May 28, 2024 16:07:46 GMT
He just wasn’t very good. He had loads of tricks and flicks (which totally seduces some people into thinking they’re good players) but didn’t really do anything. Didn’t score goals, make goals or stop goals. So not sure what he was there for. To run the opposition ragged? Yeah. He didn’t do that either.
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Post by lordb on May 28, 2024 16:09:23 GMT
Not even that Scottish championship standard TeamForm has the league ranked 75th out of 100 european leagues, which is below League 2 (71st) but above Scottish Championship (95th) www.teamform.com/en/league-ranking/europeLet's go with that then👍
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Post by foxysgloves on May 28, 2024 19:44:15 GMT
Amazing what a bit of experience can do for a player. They obviously need to play to fulfil their potential. It’s about finding a place to do that. You’ve only got to look at Lookman just because he’s blossomed now doesn’t mean whoever was Everton manager should have just played him after they bought him from Charlton for £10M. Experience makes you a better player. Who’d have thought it? PS not Bayern anyway.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 28, 2024 19:45:07 GMT
Amazing what a bit of experience can do for a player. Nah it’s just his quality. Quality that hasn’t improved at all due to his varied experiences in the game. Ok.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2024 21:01:20 GMT
Nah it’s just his quality. Quality that hasn’t improved at all due to his varied experiences in the game. Ok. When you’re as gifted as he is it absolutely means nothing.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 28, 2024 21:22:13 GMT
Quality that hasn’t improved at all due to his varied experiences in the game. Ok. When you’re as gifted as he is it absolutely means nothing. 😂😂😂
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Post by a on May 28, 2024 21:59:55 GMT
I think I’ll reserve judgement until he tears it up in the Championship before fawning over him to be honest.
Louis Moult tore it up in Scotland, but can’t remember him doing it anywhere halfway decent for any period of time.
I think perspective is required here 👀
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Post by jokker on May 28, 2024 22:06:04 GMT
To run the opposition ragged? Yeah. He didn’t do that either. In other words you never saw him play...
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 28, 2024 22:26:22 GMT
Don't remember to much of Verlinden now, probably an age thing??? But what bit I do remember, I'd still say he was better than Vidigal!!!
Sorry, but I don't rate Vidigal at all!!!
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Post by JoeinOz on May 28, 2024 23:34:15 GMT
If Verlo goes QPR Schumacher should be sacked
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 29, 2024 0:21:39 GMT
Don't remember to much of Verlinden now, probably an age thing??? But what bit I do remember, I'd still say he was better than Vidigal!!! Sorry, but I don't rate Vidigal at all!!! He really wasn't to be fair He was seriously average and would struggle to get in a League One side
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 29, 2024 0:31:03 GMT
Don't remember to much of Verlinden now, probably an age thing??? But what bit I do remember, I'd still say he was better than Vidigal!!! Sorry, but I don't rate Vidigal at all!!! He really wasn't to be fair He was seriously average and would struggle to get in a League One side Maybe, I can't remember that well if I'm honest, but that says as much about Vidigal as it does Verlinden to me!!!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 29, 2024 0:58:26 GMT
He really wasn't to be fair He was seriously average and would struggle to get in a League One side Maybe, I can't remember that well if I'm honest, but that says as much about Vidigal as it does Verlinden to me!!! To be fair Vidigal showed more in 2 games than Verlinden ever did. Not a great boast though.
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Post by stokieinlondon on May 29, 2024 2:57:05 GMT
Yeah. He didn’t do that either. In other words you never saw him play... I saw him a few times, most recently at QPR away. He came on. He was ok, not terrible but certainly nothing to write home about. I’d say he’s at the right level now (is it Belgian second tier?)
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Post by stokieinlondon on May 29, 2024 7:25:52 GMT
Don't remember to much of Verlinden now, probably an age thing??? But what bit I do remember, I'd still say he was better than Vidigal!!! Sorry, but I don't rate Vidigal at all!!! Vidigal has scored a few goals at least.
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Post by baconburger on May 29, 2024 7:32:46 GMT
They obviously need to play to fulfil their potential. It’s about finding a place to do that. You’ve only got to look at Lookman just because he’s blossomed now doesn’t mean whoever was Everton manager should have just played him after they bought him from Charlton for £10M. Experience makes you a better player. Who’d have thought it? PS not Bayern anyway. A level of experience makes you a better player but careers are up one side of a mountain and down the other and we’ve been far too prone to taking players on the downward curve. They’re not a smart way to spend your money either in fees or wages, they’re dead money and should be kept to an absolute minimum.
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Post by baconburger on May 29, 2024 7:38:16 GMT
Maybe, I can't remember that well if I'm honest, but that says as much about Vidigal as it does Verlinden to me!!! To be fair Vidigal showed more in 2 games than Verlinden ever did. Not a great boast though. How many games did Verlinden actually play for us ? What I did see of him he was a bit like DWP just so obviously not upto the physicality of men’s football.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 29, 2024 10:42:10 GMT
Don't remember to much of Verlinden now, probably an age thing??? But what bit I do remember, I'd still say he was better than Vidigal!!! Sorry, but I don't rate Vidigal at all!!! Vidigal has scored a few goals at least. He's also played a lot more games.... Just saying!!!
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Post by bolders on May 29, 2024 12:17:01 GMT
To be fair Vidigal showed more in 2 games than Verlinden ever did. Not a great boast though. How many games did Verlinden actually play for us ? What I did see of him he was a bit like DWP just so obviously not upto the physicality of men’s football. Stoke first team 13 appearances 0 goals 1 assist Stoke U21’s 44 appearances 3 goals 10 assists Bolton (league 1) 17 appearances 3 goals 3 assists
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 29, 2024 13:10:21 GMT
How many games did Verlinden actually play for us ? What I did see of him he was a bit like DWP just so obviously not upto the physicality of men’s football. Stoke first team 13 appearances 0 goals 1 assist Stoke U21’s 44 appearances 3 goals 10 assists Bolton (league 1) 17 appearances 3 goals 3 assists He's where he is for for a reason
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Post by J-Roar on May 29, 2024 13:20:40 GMT
Stoke first team 13 appearances 0 goals 1 assist Stoke U21’s 44 appearances 3 goals 10 assists Bolton (league 1) 17 appearances 3 goals 3 assists He's where he is for for a reason Lack of experience
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Post by foxysgloves on May 29, 2024 13:54:38 GMT
Experience makes you a better player. Who’d have thought it? PS not Bayern anyway. A level of experience makes you a better player but careers are up one side of a mountain and down the other and we’ve been far too prone to taking players on the downward curve. They’re not a smart way to spend your money either in fees or wages, they’re dead money and should be kept to an absolute minimum. Fair point. Not what Bayern is saying though.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 29, 2024 15:37:29 GMT
TV looks exciting but had very little end product, be very surprised if he plays in the Championship
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Post by emretezzy on May 29, 2024 15:38:50 GMT
How many games did Verlinden actually play for us ? What I did see of him he was a bit like DWP just so obviously not upto the physicality of men’s football. Stoke first team 13 appearances 0 goals 1 assist Stoke U21’s 44 appearances 3 goals 10 assists Bolton (league 1) 17 appearances 3 goals 3 assists Gifted
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