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Post by Roger Everyone on Jul 26, 2024 23:31:13 GMT
When are we likely to be signing our new number 9? 2026 and it will be BTA, I am from the future and I know 😉
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Post by callas12 on Jul 26, 2024 23:48:13 GMT
Seems like you have 2 options to get promoted 1 break ffp and hope you go up or your screwed 2 get relegated spending and hope you get promoted back then use these players to then push for a second promotion How can either option be classed as fare When we came down we should have sold the kitchen sink instead of trying to keep hold and invested in young players as I suggested at time we couldn't be worce off than we are now with ffp Great examples you give there. Point 1 - Prime examples are Aston Villa & Derby County. That play off final between them pair meant so much more than purely a promotion to the victorious club that day. It meant Villa weren't in the mire over their FFP as they were more than chancing their arm that season as parachute payments were about to dry up. & Derby, well the gambles and stunts Mel Morris was pulling came home to roost and they ended up bottoming out! The outcome that day had the result gone Derbys way would have seen Villa ina similar position to where Derby ended up I have no doubts. The Villa hieracy were praying to the gods that day for sure. Point 2 - Birmingham City. Evidently time will tell if spending heavily and on anything & everything will pay off for them but realistically it should work out for them. Yes Wrexham are spending well and are a pull but when compared to the likes of Burton & Wycombe etc, they should absolutely boss L1 this season!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 27, 2024 7:54:08 GMT
Be surprised if there wasn't a player unveiling at the AZ game.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 27, 2024 7:56:24 GMT
The lack of activity over the last 4 weeks is beginning to be a little concerning.
No one’s fault necessarily but with only 2 weeks to go can’t help thinking we’re going to be going to going into Coventry either underprepared because players won’t have joined us till a week before kickoff and not played with there new teammates yet and developed understandings or we’ll be short in key positions.
The powers that be really need to change the window from the end of August to the end of July.
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Post by karl on Jul 27, 2024 7:57:11 GMT
Be surprised if there wasn't a player unveiling at the AZ game. A striker I hope.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 27, 2024 8:00:39 GMT
Be surprised if there wasn't a player unveiling at the AZ game. Not what I’m hearing got a concerning PM last night saying there was nothing imminent and we were struggling to get players in. Kind of supports what SS said about lots of clubs going for all the same players. I don’t see anyone coming in till the season starts but that when they do they’re players we really want if the gamble pays off rather than going in early and bringing in mediocrity.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 8:02:03 GMT
We really could. We have more FFP headroom than most of our peers. So you think we'd be worse off being free to spend whatever we want than under the restrictions we are now under? I know you love an argument but surely you can see that just isn't right mate. I obviously misunderstood what the post was driving at if that was it. That’s your take on it but the poster hasn’t confirmed that. I took it to mean our FFP situation was worse in relation to our direct competition, it just isn’t. I completely agree with him that what we attempted to do upon relegation was the wrong approach not just the wrong outcome.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 8:07:16 GMT
The lack of activity over the last 4 weeks is beginning to be a little concerning. No one’s fault necessarily but with only 2 weeks to go can’t help thinking we’re going to be going to going into Coventry either underprepared because players won’t have joined us till a week before kickoff and not played with there new teammates yet and developed understandings or we’ll be short in key positions. The powers that be really need to change the window from the end of August to the end of July. Promoted teams are already pushed to re shape their squad in the short period to be competitive. That would make life even more difficult for them and act to further lock in the status quo. Good as an idea it sounds until you think about the specific consequences. I mean why have parachute payments and not mandatory relegation clauses and large promotion bonuses??
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 27, 2024 8:25:36 GMT
Be surprised if there wasn't a player unveiling at the AZ game. Dele Ali helicopter to the centre circle aka keegan having rejected vale and Crewe for a late bid from Stoke
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 27, 2024 8:47:28 GMT
Be surprised if there wasn't a player unveiling at the AZ game. Not what I’m hearing got a concerning PM last night saying there was nothing imminent and we were struggling to get players in. Kind of supports what SS said about lots of clubs going for all the same players. I don’t see anyone coming in till the season starts but that when they do they’re players we really want if the gamble pays off rather than going in early and bringing in mediocrity. Whoever told you that isn't ITK unless he's inside the club. Nobody knows shit and are guessing.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 8:55:48 GMT
Not what I’m hearing got a concerning PM last night saying there was nothing imminent and we were struggling to get players in. Kind of supports what SS said about lots of clubs going for all the same players. I don’t see anyone coming in till the season starts but that when they do they’re players we really want if the gamble pays off rather than going in early and bringing in mediocrity. Whoever told you that isn't ITK unless he's inside the club. Nobody knows shit and are guessing. I thought Schu had also said we should have a few in by Bolton ?? You’re right though everyone is playing guessing games. It seems keeping shit under wraps is more important than actually signing players. Fair??
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 27, 2024 9:02:27 GMT
Not signing a striker, isn’t ideal. However it’s arguably the hardest position to recruit for.
In an ideal world we’d have someone in the squad trying with team mates but the reality is that it might be right up to deadline day before we fill the position/s
So possibly another four weeks yet
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 9:03:38 GMT
Not signing a striker, isn’t ideal. However it’s arguably the hardest position to recruit for. In an ideal world we’d have someone in the squad trying with team mates but the reality is that it might be right up to deadline day before we fill the position/s So possibly another four weeks yet Not ideal. Master of understatement.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 27, 2024 9:09:19 GMT
Not signing a striker, isn’t ideal. However it’s arguably the hardest position to recruit for. In an ideal world we’d have someone in the squad trying with team mates but the reality is that it might be right up to deadline day before we fill the position/s So possibly another four weeks yet Not ideal. Master of understatement. It’s better waiting for the right one as opposed to rushing and signing the wrong one, loads of prem clubs are on overseas trips, you could argue we could have a look at the foreign market but fans would still class them sort of players as unproven in contrast to someone like Ugbo, Stansfield and Cannon who score in this league
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Post by lordb on Jul 27, 2024 9:15:18 GMT
Not signing a striker, isn’t ideal. However it’s arguably the hardest position to recruit for. In an ideal world we’d have someone in the squad trying with team mates but the reality is that it might be right up to deadline day before we fill the position/s So possibly another four weeks yet If the best striker we could get right now is BTA then the correct approach is to wait a bit longer
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 9:18:58 GMT
Not signing a striker, isn’t ideal. However it’s arguably the hardest position to recruit for. In an ideal world we’d have someone in the squad trying with team mates but the reality is that it might be right up to deadline day before we fill the position/s So possibly another four weeks yet If the best striker we could get right now is BTA then the correct approach is to wait a bit longer Only because your personal opinion is biased about BTA. His attributes are undeniable they’re just not what you personally favour. Sounds about as daft as me saying I don’t want Stansfield because he’s not the physical CF I desire.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 27, 2024 9:38:29 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 27, 2024 9:40:32 GMT
If we have to wait until the end of the window to get a decent striker in and we have to play the first couple of games with Mmaee up top it’s not the end of the world……
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 27, 2024 9:43:05 GMT
On a side not of FFP.
Chelsea sign another Argentina kid for 18.5m whilst actively looking to get rid of any home grown talent to balance the books in the most cost effective way.
It's a fucking travesty what's happening to young English players being used as financial make weights.
The whole system should be geared up to enhance the chance of young English players breaking into the first teams at clubs. At the moment it's the complete opposite. You get rewarded for flogging them.
This is the blue touch paper that blew up FFP in my opinion. The Premier league should be fucking disgusted what it's done to the young 18-20 year old this transfer window used as financial pawns this summer.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 27, 2024 9:45:40 GMT
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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 27, 2024 9:46:54 GMT
We’re two weeks off our first game of the season lads and still need atleast 5 players. Absolutely shitting myself now 😬
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Post by wonderwall on Jul 27, 2024 9:47:24 GMT
Closing in on the loan of Tom cannon hopefully!
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 27, 2024 9:47:54 GMT
We’re two weeks off our first game of the season lads and still need atleast 5 players. Absolutely shitting myself now 😬 Striker and CB a must RB, Cundle type and a DM you reckon?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 27, 2024 9:48:07 GMT
Not signing a striker, isn’t ideal. However it’s arguably the hardest position to recruit for. In an ideal world we’d have someone in the squad trying with team mates but the reality is that it might be right up to deadline day before we fill the position/s So possibly another four weeks yet There is at least one striker of varying quality in every team in the world so there should be plenty of buying opportunities.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 27, 2024 9:54:14 GMT
If we have to wait until the end of the window to get a decent striker in and we have to play the first couple of games with Mmaee up top it’s not the end of the world…… will Mmaee be fit enough ??
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 27, 2024 10:02:32 GMT
Not what I’m hearing got a concerning PM last night saying there was nothing imminent and we were struggling to get players in. Kind of supports what SS said about lots of clubs going for all the same players. I don’t see anyone coming in till the season starts but that when they do they’re players we really want if the gamble pays off rather than going in early and bringing in mediocrity. Whoever told you that isn't ITK unless he's inside the club. Nobody knows shit and are guessing. We’ll see just feeding back what i’ve been told. I trust this person and to be fair it’s less of an issue than giving names than people who were supposed to be signing tomorrow 3 weeks ago
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 27, 2024 10:04:11 GMT
If we have to wait until the end of the window to get a decent striker in and we have to play the first couple of games with Mmaee up top it’s not the end of the world…… will Mmaee be fit enough ?? Last I heard he’ll play in the home friendly if he keeps training as he is…..
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Post by thehoof on Jul 27, 2024 10:06:43 GMT
It’s clearly not easy to recruit the type of player that Stoke require; if you look at some of the Facebook pundits ( fans of other teams, obviously), we are definitely flying under the radar- I think most see us as struggling, principally as a result of our lack of goals.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 27, 2024 10:08:01 GMT
will Mmaee be fit enough ?? Last I heard he’ll play in the home friendly if he keeps training as he is….. so will need a week or two get match fit before playing a league i should imagine
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Post by baconburger on Jul 27, 2024 10:13:37 GMT
If we have to wait until the end of the window to get a decent striker in and we have to play the first couple of games with Mmaee up top it’s not the end of the world…… IYO
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