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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 6:25:39 GMT
I know last year was a complete rebuild and this year more of a evolution However, how many had signed by this stage, I think we had 6 or 7 by now, Johnson, Rose, Junho, Leris, Vidgal and Jojic. So I do think we are behind last year a bit. Fingers crossed for the next few days We just can't go out and sign 6 or 7 can we before moving players on, so we are bound to fall behind last year. Signing another 3/4 on top of what we already have to take us to that figure would give us a senior squad size of around 28 players. It's totally unreasonable and massively at odds with the plan set out by Jon Walters to create a slender squad with a pathway for the younger players from the Academy.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 26, 2024 6:32:09 GMT
I know last year was a complete rebuild and this year more of a evolution However, how many had signed by this stage, I think we had 6 or 7 by now, Johnson, Rose, Junho, Leris, Vidgal and Jojic. So I do think we are behind last year a bit. Fingers crossed for the next few days We just can't go out and sign 6 or 7 can we before moving players on, so we are bound to fall behind last year. Signing another 3/4 on top of what we already have to take us to that figure would give us a senior squad size of around 28 players. It's totally unreasonable. We have 2 pretty disappointing strikers and a couple of kids who need a loan. The overall size of the squad is irrelevant to that situation and should not be used as an excuse for not bolstering that area regardless. Would you deem it reasonable not to act because we can’t shift players from our overstocked midfield?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 6:33:59 GMT
We just can't go out and sign 6 or 7 can we before moving players on, so we are bound to fall behind last year. Signing another 3/4 on top of what we already have to take us to that figure would give us a senior squad size of around 28 players. It's totally unreasonable. We have 2 pretty disappointing strikers and a couple of kids who need a loan. The overall size of the squad is irrelevant to that situation and should not be used as an excuse for not bolstering that area regardless. Would you deem it reasonable not to act because we can’t shift players from our overstocked midfield? I'm just going off the words of the general manager and his plans for the club. It's clear they want to move players on from certain areas of the squad before they buy. It's clear they want a pathway for the talented young lads before committing to sending them out on loan. I think personally we are weak all over the park in certain areas but that's a different discussion.
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Post by greystokie on Jul 26, 2024 6:41:20 GMT
When I see comments indicating that the club should hurry up and sign more players I often wonder just how this can be done. In the absence of bottomless pockets where huge sums of money can be used to prize players away or simply buying any old player that happens to be available there seems to be very little that can be done to speed things up.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 26, 2024 6:45:52 GMT
We have 2 pretty disappointing strikers and a couple of kids who need a loan. The overall size of the squad is irrelevant to that situation and should not be used as an excuse for not bolstering that area regardless. Would you deem it reasonable not to act because we can’t shift players from our overstocked midfield? I'm just going off the words of the general manager and his plans for the club. It's clear they want to move players on from certain areas of the squad before they buy. It's clear they want a pathway for the talented young lads before committing to sending them out on loan. I think personally we are weak all over the park in certain areas but that's a different discussion. I feel pretty sure we’ll sign players regardless of whether we can move players on. Whether we’ll be initially impressed by them I’m not so sure. I take it the general manager slip was intentional.
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Post by sealion100 on Jul 26, 2024 6:50:23 GMT
True we need to trim the squad size BUT ….. if Tuesday proves anything , ( not that we didn’t know) … we’re Desperate for at least TWO strikers ……. Just worried that we will go into the season with Ennis as our main striker !!!
Should have kept Ty if they didn’t have a replacement
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 26, 2024 6:53:12 GMT
I don’t think Souttar will sign as he’ll look at it as to much of a backwards step.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 26, 2024 6:54:37 GMT
True we need to trim the squad size BUT ….. if Tuesday proves anything , ( not that we didn’t know) … we’re Desperate for at least TWO strikers ……. Just worried that we will go into the season with Ennis as our main striker !!! Should have kept Ty if they didn’t have a replacement Yup I find the prospect of either Ennis or Mmaee being our starting striker very disheartening.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2024 6:58:44 GMT
I don’t think Souttar will sign as he’ll look at it as to much of a backwards step. Any step he takes next will be backwards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 7:03:36 GMT
I'm just going off the words of the general manager and his plans for the club. It's clear they want to move players on from certain areas of the squad before they buy. It's clear they want a pathway for the talented young lads before committing to sending them out on loan. I think personally we are weak all over the park in certain areas but that's a different discussion. I feel pretty sure we’ll sign players regardless of whether we can move players on. Whether we’ll be initially impressed by them I’m not so sure. I take it the general manager slip was intentional. I don't understand? He is the general manager under the title of Technical Director. He's the boss who runs the football side of the club. Schumacher is responsible for coaching the first team and dealing with whatever he has in his squad, bought for him by he general manager and the recruitment guy with input from him along the way.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 26, 2024 7:10:07 GMT
never in a million years did i think Harry was good enough for the premier league he is far to slow on the turn, championship or scottish premiership is the level he is at, weather or not its with us i am not bothered either way,
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 26, 2024 7:13:17 GMT
I don’t think Souttar will sign as he’ll look at it as to much of a backwards step. Any step he takes next will be backwards. I just think he’ll be looking at Sheff U as a better opportunity of getting back to the PL. Anyway I thought we were on the brink of that CB that was signing 3 weeks ago
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 26, 2024 7:17:21 GMT
Wouldn’t mind Soutts back, but also not bothered if he doesn’t come back, he’s a class player but we could have players targeted who suit Schuey’s system better
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Post by questionable on Jul 26, 2024 7:47:24 GMT
Wouldn’t mind Soutts back, but also not bothered if he doesn’t come back, he’s a class player but we could have players targeted who suit Schuey’s system better The mythical SS system is up there with the best, yet to see what he’s trying to achieve. Tries something, doesn’t work and the old chestnut can’t get the players for the mythical system, in reality whatever the hell he tried last season didn’t work and was a complete disaster which nearly relegated us. All I’ve seen so far is quicker passing with frig all else
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 26, 2024 7:54:02 GMT
True we need to trim the squad size BUT ….. if Tuesday proves anything , ( not that we didn’t know) … we’re Desperate for at least TWO strikers ……. Just worried that we will go into the season with Ennis as our main striker !!! Should have kept Ty if they didn’t have a replacement Despite this myth about his finishing, I don't think giving a 3/4 goal a season striker on average a new contract is the way forward . True, at present we are pretty thin on the ground but Campbell wasn't the answer. He really isn't very good
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 26, 2024 8:04:55 GMT
Wouldn’t mind Soutts back, but also not bothered if he doesn’t come back, he’s a class player but we could have players targeted who suit Schuey’s system better The mythical SS system is up there with the best, yet to see what he’s trying to achieve. Tries something, doesn’t work and the old chestnut can’t get the players for the mythical system, in reality whatever the hell he tried last season didn’t work and was a complete disaster which nearly relegated us. All I’ve seen so far is quicker passing with frig all else I think a good manager plays to the strengths of his squad. The last games last season when we stopped playing with these inverted fullbacks that we didn't have the players for should be the the clue to whwere he should go. So, let's keep playing a 4 3 3 system without the inverted fullbacks and play to the strengths of the squad. Our first 11 is just a decent striker away from being OK, but we probably lack some depth. Hopefully SS has seen enough to understand a midfield of Burger, Thompson and Baker won't work as it will be too static and without enough creativity. Right now I'd go for this 11: .....................Johansson................... Junior..........Dixon.........Gibson........Bocat ............Laurent............Burger............ Manhoef.........Sidibe.(or Junho)...............Junho (or Vidigal) .....................Ennis...................... Tezgel looks so far from being ready so I would loan him out, the same goes for Lowe. Dixon has looked brilliant so far and needs to get the nod in my opinion. Good enough is old enough in my opinion!
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Post by monsoonmoon on Jul 26, 2024 8:16:10 GMT
Would you be a Souttar Yay or Nay Bayern? In a back 4 with how Schumacher wants to play it has to be no. I think we’d be exposed. Middle CB of a back 3, absolutely but I’d rather we didn’t play that. Think I’m of a similar opinion, but I wonder whether he’s thinking that Junior can offer some cover a bit like how Walker helps out for Man City? They both seem to have been bigged up on their athleticism recently.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 26, 2024 8:19:17 GMT
Most if not all the players we need to move on,won't be gone by the time the season kicks off,but hopefully will be gone by the time the window shuts.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 26, 2024 8:20:23 GMT
Wouldn’t mind Soutts back, but also not bothered if he doesn’t come back, he’s a class player but we could have players targeted who suit Schuey’s system better Wouldn't call him a class player. He's an honest player with some attributes but he's not an outstanding, just a solid player at Championship level who got found out in the Premier because he moved there too soon.
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Post by wonderwall on Jul 26, 2024 8:20:46 GMT
Mad how some are not bothered if he doesn’t come back after watching the shambles of centre backs we’ve had since he left.
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Post by premieraj on Jul 26, 2024 8:22:19 GMT
What’s the phrase…..in Martin, Dublin, Neil oh sorry Walters, Darnborough and Shoey we trust lol 😂
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 26, 2024 8:25:19 GMT
True we need to trim the squad size BUT ….. if Tuesday proves anything , ( not that we didn’t know) … we’re Desperate for at least TWO strikers ……. Just worried that we will go into the season with Ennis as our main striker !!! Should have kept Ty if they didn’t have a replacement Shall we wait and see re Mmaee and Ennis neither of whom started on Tuesday. Comments on Ennis seem to be that he's looked better preseason and I thought that once we went to fast passing, moving football, Mmaee looked far more comfortable but his injury came at the wrong time. If Vidigal can be good enough to warrant a starting place, he will score goals as his main strength seems to be getting into the right place and tucking the rebounds or loose ball away.
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Post by anchorman on Jul 26, 2024 8:26:12 GMT
In a back 4 with how Schumacher wants to play it has to be no. I think we’d be exposed. Middle CB of a back 3, absolutely but I’d rather we didn’t play that. Think I’m of a similar opinion, but I wonder whether he’s thinking that Junior can offer some cover a bit like how Walker helps out for Man City? They both seem to have been bigged up on their athleticism recently. And that’s where the comparison’s between Walker & Junior come to an abrupt stop. Junior may have bulked up but he needs to improve so much technically, positionally…He’s still pretty raw and I’m of the opinion he should be back up for Hoever if we can get him.
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Post by noustie on Jul 26, 2024 8:32:11 GMT
Got a feeling Souttar will end up on loan at Rangers - they're skint repairing one of the stands and playing at Hampden for a bit so seem in a bit of a mess financially again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2024 8:33:28 GMT
In a back 4 with how Schumacher wants to play it has to be no. I think we’d be exposed. Middle CB of a back 3, absolutely but I’d rather we didn’t play that. Think I’m of a similar opinion, but I wonder whether he’s thinking that Junior can offer some cover a bit like how Walker helps out for Man City? They both seem to have been bigged up on their athleticism recently. I did think that but then I think that adds more pressure on Junior which isn’t what’s needed at the minute. He needs to think about his own game and not worry about the person next to him.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jul 26, 2024 8:45:08 GMT
Think I’m of a similar opinion, but I wonder whether he’s thinking that Junior can offer some cover a bit like how Walker helps out for Man City? They both seem to have been bigged up on their athleticism recently. I did think that but then I think that adds more pressure on Junior which isn’t what’s needed at the minute. He needs to think about his own game and not worry about the person next to him. I think that Junior needs to be allowed to learn his job as a right back at the moment and not to be a right back that spends most of the game pushing into midfield. He has not got the experience to do that for now.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 26, 2024 8:45:53 GMT
Unfortunately has a few spare tires and rolls around too much 😁😁 Legs like rubber
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 26, 2024 8:51:41 GMT
I'm mystified why a local team doesn't take a punt on Paul Mullin. Still only 28. Gets a chance and it's in the onion bag, I'm sure 1 million would be enough and he'd come
A friend of mine played against him, he said it was the hardest 90 mind pf his life, never stops running, all elbows and dark arts. Not quick but good in the air but a nuisance
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Post by Timmy on Jul 26, 2024 8:53:08 GMT
Happy signing day 👍 (one can hope 😂😂)
It's a Friday, we only do business on a Friday!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2024 8:53:12 GMT
I did think that but then I think that adds more pressure on Junior which isn’t what’s needed at the minute. He needs to think about his own game and not worry about the person next to him. I think that Junior needs to be allowed to learn his job as a right back at the moment and not to be a right back that spends most of the game pushing into midfield. He has not got the experience to do that for now. Absolutely spot on.
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