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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 16:10:54 GMT
We need to do everything to keep hold of our better players for this season. And if Bae and Million carry on their form from the end of last season I predict Mmaee getting double figures this season 🙏 I hope so re Mmaee because I really like his general play. His finishing looked fucking awful though. Which is a worry for the striker. But if he can link with Bae and Manhoef he could just set them up? Which is very modern. I agree that it is modern for your striker not to actually be that good at scoring goals. However, in those cases the striker is usually a menace or at least a decent finisher. Mmaee either needs to add more to his game off the ball or be capable of still getting 10 a season (ideally both).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 16:14:38 GMT
We are a bit but I think one striker in is what we need. Gayle and Wes don’t need replacing. I’d be delighted with a striker pool of Mmaee, new striker and Tezgel. + Ennis for when you need a grafter (closing out games for eg) we have 3 very different types of strikers there, Lowe is different again Nah I’d get rid of him. We don’t need 4 strikers.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 16:15:26 GMT
I hope so re Mmaee because I really like his general play. His finishing looked fucking awful though. Which is a worry for the striker. But if he can link with Bae and Manhoef he could just set them up? Which is very modern. I agree that it is modern for your striker not to actually be that good at scoring goals. However, in those cases the striker is usually a menace or at least a decent finisher. Mmaee either needs to add more to his game off the ball or be capable of still getting 10 a season (ideally both). I think his general play and link up play is very good and will add a lot to the team.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 16:16:39 GMT
Don't think that works if we sign a CF. Is Tezgel a player that would be comfortable as a wide forward? Otherwise I'd assume he'd be third pick for the central role. Unless Mmaee gets flogged. he'd be third pick yes given 46 games + cups & 5 subs he'd get lots of game time in that scenario if we sign two strikers then he won't he's got a good eye for a pass so you could use him wide on occasion but probably not if we sign no strikers he'd get tons of game time maybe Ennis will surprise us all & play miles better , who knows? Naah still can't see being third pick being more beneficial to him or us (in having him properly ready to compete for starts next season) than going on loan somewhere he'll likely play a lot of minutes most games. Obviously we'd want him to sign an extension before he went out but it's hardly an uncommon practice. Ennis has looked a bit better in the pre season but I honestly can't see him scoring many goals in the championship. You never know though Brown somehow managed to notch 14 wasn't it?
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2024 16:26:28 GMT
he'd be third pick yes given 46 games + cups & 5 subs he'd get lots of game time in that scenario if we sign two strikers then he won't he's got a good eye for a pass so you could use him wide on occasion but probably not if we sign no strikers he'd get tons of game time maybe Ennis will surprise us all & play miles better , who knows? Naah still can't see being third pick being more beneficial to him or us (in having him properly ready to compete for starts next season) than going on loan somewhere he'll likely play a lot of minutes most games. Obviously we'd want him to sign an extension before he went out but it's hardly an uncommon practice. Ennis has looked a bit better in the pre season but I honestly can't see him scoring many goals in the championship. You never know though Brown somehow managed to notch 14 wasn't it? no 'somehow' about it, he got into goalscoring oppositions & can finish < sure his control was poor but his intelligent runs were way above anyone else's since relegation, thats why he scored a decent level of goals > none of other strikers before (for many a year) or since have done Surrigde & Ennis occasionally get into goalscoring positions but couldn't finish Campbell & Mmaee (but less so) good finishers but just don't get into the area to score goals, Mmaee would be a very good foil for a central striker who breaks the lines & scores b ut A; we'd need one of those & B: we'd need to play two up top the worst was Afobe who when in the box would literally stand still & then wonder why the defenders got to the ball first > however he was very hood on one one's Tezgel is a natural finisher & gets into those positions look at how many minutes Wes got last season or Gayle if one striker incoming Tez would play plenty it's probably mot 1 perm & 1 loan at the end of the window is probably what we will do
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Post by baconburger on Jul 23, 2024 16:30:09 GMT
Naah still can't see being third pick being more beneficial to him or us (in having him properly ready to compete for starts next season) than going on loan somewhere he'll likely play a lot of minutes most games. Obviously we'd want him to sign an extension before he went out but it's hardly an uncommon practice. Ennis has looked a bit better in the pre season but I honestly can't see him scoring many goals in the championship. You never know though Brown somehow managed to notch 14 wasn't it? no 'somehow' about it, he got into goalscoring oppositions & can finish < sure his control was poor but his intelligent runs were way above anyone else's since relegation, thats why he scored a decent level of goals > none of other strikers before (for many a year) or since have done Surrigde & Ennis occasionally get into goalscoring positions but couldn't finish Campbell & Mmaee (but less so) good finishers but just don't get into the area to score goals, Mmaee would be a very good foil for a central striker who breaks the lines & scores b ut A; we'd need one of those & B: we'd need to play two up top the worst was Afobe who when in the box would literally stand still & then wonder why the defenders got to the ball first > however he was very hood on one one's Tezgel is a natural finisher & gets into those positions look at how many minutes Wes got last season or Gayle if one striker incoming Tez would play plenty it's probably mot 1 perm & 1 loan at the end of the window is probably what we will do I hope we get more than one. I don't want Mmaee guaranteed minutes never mind Tezgel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 16:40:12 GMT
I agree that it is modern for your striker not to actually be that good at scoring goals. However, in those cases the striker is usually a menace or at least a decent finisher. Mmaee either needs to add more to his game off the ball or be capable of still getting 10 a season (ideally both). I think his general play and link up play is very good and will add a lot to the team. Passing a ball nicely is still only one trait (and not one that he is particularly standout at). He needs more than it if he’s to be of any use.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 16:44:52 GMT
I think his general play and link up play is very good and will add a lot to the team. Passing a ball nicely is still only one trait (and not one that he is particularly standout at). He needs more than it if he’s to be of any use. I think he holds it up well too. Good movement. My only criticism of him is his finishing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 16:48:00 GMT
Passing a ball nicely is still only one trait (and not one that he is particularly standout at). He needs more than it if he’s to be of any use. I think he holds it up well too. Good movement. My only criticism of him is his finishing. I don’t really see it but fair enough.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 23, 2024 16:49:49 GMT
Passing a ball nicely is still only one trait (and not one that he is particularly standout at). He needs more than it if he’s to be of any use. I think he holds it up well too. Good movement. My only criticism of him is his finishing. He’s a very good player if we can get his head in the game. Thought his finishing wasn’t too bad either.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2024 17:01:14 GMT
It’s all getting a little worrying that there’s been zero business in 4 weeks. nah 6 weeks or so to go we don't need lots of players this summer we needed keeper,left back, 2CB's & a striker just a striker & another CB by end of window please Other business would be re replacing what we have with more quality that may or mot may not happen but in terms of actual need not concerned atm, if its 2 days before the end of the window might get twitchy Be nice to have the majority of our ducks in a row in time for the season starting though? If we go into the new season without a new striker it’s pure negligence imo
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Post by etebojan on Jul 23, 2024 17:05:42 GMT
nah 6 weeks or so to go we don't need lots of players this summer we needed keeper,left back, 2CB's & a striker just a striker & another CB by end of window please Other business would be re replacing what we have with more quality that may or mot may not happen but in terms of actual need not concerned atm, if its 2 days before the end of the window might get twitchy Be nice to have the majority of our ducks in a row in time for the season starting though? If we go into the new season without a new striker it’s pure negligence imo Yes it's only 2.5 weeks till we kick off the new season, i think it would be pretty crap not having at least 1 new striker in place
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2024 17:10:00 GMT
Passing a ball nicely is still only one trait (and not one that he is particularly standout at). He needs more than it if he’s to be of any use. I think he holds it up well too. Good movement. My only criticism of him is his finishing. He doesn't get into the box enough, he wants to play outside the box and create
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 23, 2024 17:28:10 GMT
We need to do everything to keep hold of our better players for this season. And if Bae and Million carry on their form from the end of last season I predict Mmaee getting double figures this season 🙏 I hope so re Mmaee because I really like his general play. His finishing looked fucking awful though. Which is a worry for the striker. But if he can link with Bae and Manhoef he could just set them up? Which is very modern. I don’t think his finishing looked fucking awful as you put it. Just a striker low on fitness, sharpness and confidence in a very stop start season for him. He took his goal against Rotherham superbly.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 23, 2024 17:29:31 GMT
I hope so re Mmaee because I really like his general play. His finishing looked fucking awful though. Which is a worry for the striker. But if he can link with Bae and Manhoef he could just set them up? Which is very modern. I don’t think his finishing looked fucking awful as you put it. Just a striker low on fitness, sharpness and confidence in a very stop start season for him. He took his goal against Rotherham superbly. Same for his goal against Watford
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Post by etebojan on Jul 23, 2024 17:33:27 GMT
Looks like Burger made it back from Plymouth then
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2024 17:35:30 GMT
I hope so re Mmaee because I really like his general play. His finishing looked fucking awful though. Which is a worry for the striker. But if he can link with Bae and Manhoef he could just set them up? Which is very modern. I don’t think his finishing looked fucking awful as you put it. Just a striker low on fitness, sharpness and confidence in a very stop start season for him. He took his goal against Rotherham superbly. Maybe but he just didn’t connect with the ball. Which you should be able to do whatever the situation.
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Post by Timmy on Jul 23, 2024 17:41:39 GMT
Looks like Burger made it back from Plymouth then A couple of signings off a mid table championship side
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2024 17:41:49 GMT
Pete Smith just been on Radio Stoke saying he'd be surprised if Burger left.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 23, 2024 17:42:51 GMT
Tez getting plenty of minutes. That has to be a good sign
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Post by etebojan on Jul 23, 2024 17:48:21 GMT
Tez getting plenty of minutes. That has to be a good sign thats our strongest front three currently with Mmaee out...and first of the preseasons (i think?!) when Bae and Million have played the same half i think...will be interesting to see how they link up
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2024 17:49:56 GMT
Pete Smith said he'd expect that'd be the XI if Cov was tomorrow, but speculated we may see "a handful" of new signings, who would expect to strengthen the XI.
"Stoke want to have a lean squad with the budget on the pitch, not in the stands"
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Post by etebojan on Jul 23, 2024 17:54:36 GMT
Pete Smith just been on Radio Stoke saying he'd be surprised if Burger left.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 17:56:20 GMT
Pete Smith just been on Radio Stoke saying he'd be surprised if Burger left. "That's lovely, Frazer"
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 23, 2024 18:04:27 GMT
This Burger to Spurs link is pretty ridiculous isn’t it? He showed some promising signs but by the end of the season he couldn’t get in to the team could he?
Be absolutely barmy if that link is true.
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Post by fraybentos on Jul 23, 2024 18:08:29 GMT
Pete Smith said he'd expect that'd be the XI if Cov was tomorrow, but speculated we may see "a handful" of new signings, who would expect to strengthen the XI. "Stoke want to have a lean squad with the budget on the pitch, not in the stands" A lot weaker than last season and we only just about survived
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 23, 2024 18:21:36 GMT
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 23, 2024 18:30:00 GMT
Pete Smith just been on Radio Stoke saying he'd be surprised if Burger left. I hope that's true. During the course of the day I've had a strip of skin sliced off the tip of my right index finger and suffered multiple nettle stings and, quite frankly, I deserve this.
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Post by george2again on Jul 23, 2024 18:51:41 GMT
Passing a ball nicely is still only one trait (and not one that he is particularly standout at). He needs more than it if he’s to be of any use. I think he holds it up well too. Good movement. My only criticism of him is his finishing. Have to disagree on this one his movement is abject, never runs the channels and is in gold fish mode 2-3 seconds to slow for everything. Okay coming short but that’s it.
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Post by DC1863 on Jul 23, 2024 18:55:48 GMT
Tez getting plenty of minutes. That has to be a good sign Has he worked his way to second choice striker behind Mmaee?
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