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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 28, 2024 20:00:10 GMT
36 and played 32 games in Turkey. Begovic has been brilliant for QPR I just want us to sign a keeper that will be here for 2/3 seasons. I don’t disagree though we should have had begovic in the summer.
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Post by bolders on Apr 28, 2024 20:10:14 GMT
Don’t think we will get Souttar. But Galloway from Plymouth is free. I think he will be Shueys choice. For winger I’d be seeing if we can get Finn Azar on loan. Galloway looked an absolute cart horse against us. But had been good for most of the season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2024 20:11:54 GMT
Galloway looked an absolute cart horse against us. But had been good for most of the season. How good? They’re likely to be relegated imo. Going for any Plymouth player worries me bar Whittaker but we can’t afford him so that’s fine.
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Post by bolders on Apr 28, 2024 20:15:06 GMT
But had been good for most of the season. How good? They’re likely to be relegated imo. Going for any Plymouth player worries me bar Whittaker but we can’t afford him so that’s fine. Huth was bought from a relegated club remember
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2024 20:16:47 GMT
How good? They’re likely to be relegated imo. Going for any Plymouth player worries me bar Whittaker but we can’t afford him so that’s fine. Huth was bought from a relegated club remember True. I’m just far from convinced from anything Plymouth related though 🤣
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Post by baconburger on Apr 28, 2024 20:17:45 GMT
Same people who said Tymon couldn't defend now slag off Hoever. They think that FB is a primarily defensive role, I just think they're very old and out of touch. This article gives a pretty good definition of the modern fullback: "The modern full-back’s duties are at both ends of the pitch; they must support attacks and defend in almost equal measure." They key point is this: What are the disadvantages to playing with a modern full-back?Playing with a modern full-back can leave big gaps in wide areas into which the opposition can counter-attack. If they can access this space, the centre-backs may be left exposed with a fast attacker dribbling towards them at pace. If a coach asks the full-back to contribute to both the attacking and defending phases of the game, but the player isn’t capable of doing one or the other adequately, the team can suffer. The position requires immense physical capacity, particularly in terms of speed, stamina and endurance; if the player selected cannot keep up with the pace of the game, their team can be left with serious deficiencies at one or both ends of the pitch." The thing is to play this role well players have to be exceptional - they have to be able to attack, defend and cover more of the pitch (at speed) than any other position on the pitch. A modern fullback who cannot defend is a complete liability - any half decent opposition will make mincemeat out of a team with a modern fullback who can't defend properly. You cannot turn a blind eye to a fullback who can't defend. If you can't get a "modern fullback" to defend properly any sane coach will drop them and change formation to accommodate a more traditional, defensive minded fullback. No you’ve just latched onto something that suits your point of view. Both Hoever and Tymon can defend to actually say any player simply can’t defend it utter nonsense. A player might be vulnerable in a defensive position for numerous reasons ie poor in the air, weak in the challenge, slow of foot or mind, short attention span/lacking powers of concentration, positionally undisciplined. Our two most recent manager/head coach have both deployed Hoever as a CB never mind FB and yet throngs of armchair experts on here claim he can’t defend of course he can.
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Post by bolders on Apr 28, 2024 20:24:37 GMT
Huth was bought from a relegated club remember True. I’m just far from convinced from anything Plymouth related though 🤣 I just think the likes of Soutter and Coady coming here are pipe dreams
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 28, 2024 20:26:18 GMT
True. I’m just far from convinced from anything Plymouth related though 🤣 I just think the likes of Soutter and Coady coming here are pipe dreams Agreed and tbh I wouldn’t want Souttar back. We’d have to change to a back 3 and that’s just a no from me.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Apr 28, 2024 21:00:38 GMT
If you take away the five loanees, then we have a really big job to do this summer.
If you go along with the idea of two players for each position then it looks something like:
GK: NEW / BONHAM
CB: WILMOT / ROSE CB: NEW / NEW RB: JUNIOR / GOOCH LB: NEW / STEVENS
CMF: BURGER / THOMPSON CMF: BAKER / LAURENT CMF: PEARSON / NEW
LWF: JUN-HO / VIDIGAL RWF: MANHOEFF / NEW CF: NEW / MMAEE / ENNIS
So, that is probably at least seven new signings and that is based on the assumption that nobody else leaves (which I think is unlikely).
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 28, 2024 21:12:56 GMT
I like the look of Rudoni from Huddersfield for one of the midfield positions. Mobile and good with the ball.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 28, 2024 21:16:57 GMT
How good? They’re likely to be relegated imo. Going for any Plymouth player worries me bar Whittaker but we can’t afford him so that’s fine. Huth was bought from a relegated club remember Not Plymouth though. Boro were a really good team on paper with Southgate in charge Sounds awfully familiar
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Post by Northy on Apr 28, 2024 21:25:52 GMT
Someone of Keenan Davis ilk wanting to get back in the limelight
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Post by yellowsnowman on Apr 28, 2024 22:05:31 GMT
Blackburn want up to £20m for the Republic of Ireland forward Sammie Szmodics, with Brentford, Luton and Sheffield United all interested in the 28-year-old. (Sun)
Is he worth 20 million?
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 28, 2024 22:31:42 GMT
I get that there are decent footballers at all levels. I’ve played with some unreal players at amateur level. But I’m just not having this ‘fabulous fabulous’ footballers from Bayern in relation to the likes of Sorensen….the reality is that players at professional level tend to find their right level. You can be a genius with the ball but if you’re lightweight, slow or lacking the intelligence to maximise your skill set then you won’t break into the top level. One of the best footballers I’ve ever watched never even touched the professional ranks or got close to it. Poor lad is probably dead now. I hope not but that’s what he was destined for. But a cracking footballer and I’ve never seen close control like it. I think you’re conflating two things whereas I very much think there’s a separation. The best footballers don’t always reach the top level. I don’t and can’t agree. Being a brilliant footballer isn’t just about being able to ping one into the top corner 9 times out of 10. Or having the vision to play a defence splitting ball into a striker. It’s about having the discipline and mentality to train and prepare then do that at the highest level. Messi. Maradonna. Ronaldo. All the greats. They combine great skill with great mental strength and then influence the results of the biggest games in world football.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 28, 2024 22:37:28 GMT
Someone of Keenan Davis ilk wanting to get back in the limelight He’s completely disappeared off the radar where is he now? Last I heard he was at Forest.
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Post by biddulphchav on Apr 29, 2024 1:24:43 GMT
Blackburn want up to £20m for the Republic of Ireland forward Sammie Szmodics, with Brentford, Luton and Sheffield United all interested in the 28-year-old. (Sun) Is he worth 20 million? He’s decent but he’s only really had one good year in the Championship. A few seasons in League 1 and 2 also, in between some poor ones. Personally, don’t think he’s worth 20 million, especially since he’s 28.
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Post by biddulphchav on Apr 29, 2024 1:27:32 GMT
One of the best footballers I’ve ever watched never even touched the professional ranks or got close to it. Poor lad is probably dead now. I hope not but that’s what he was destined for. But a cracking footballer and I’ve never seen close control like it. I think you’re conflating two things whereas I very much think there’s a separation. The best footballers don’t always reach the top level. I don’t and can’t agree. Being a brilliant footballer isn’t just about being able to ping one into the top corner 9 times out of 10. Or having the vision to play a defence splitting ball into a striker. It’s about having the discipline and mentality to train and prepare then do that at the highest level. Messi. Maradonna. Ronaldo. All the greats. They combine great skill with great mental strength and then influence the results of the biggest games in world football. I think he was trying to say Sorensen has the ability and is a fantastic footballer, but perhaps he is / was a later developer physically (and mentally maybe but doubt it). There are definitely some players in the lower leagues who step up into the Prem and looks like they belong there. Morgan Rogers is one of them, he looks like a superb player. Not saying Sorensen is one of these but whenever I watched him for us he looked like he could do a job.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 29, 2024 5:59:13 GMT
I don’t and can’t agree. Being a brilliant footballer isn’t just about being able to ping one into the top corner 9 times out of 10. Or having the vision to play a defence splitting ball into a striker. It’s about having the discipline and mentality to train and prepare then do that at the highest level. Messi. Maradonna. Ronaldo. All the greats. They combine great skill with great mental strength and then influence the results of the biggest games in world football. I think he was trying to say Sorensen has the ability and is a fantastic footballer, but perhaps he is / was a later developer physically (and mentally maybe but doubt it). There are definitely some players in the lower leagues who step up into the Prem and looks like they belong there. Morgan Rogers is one of them, he looks like a superb player. Not saying Sorensen is one of these but whenever I watched him for us he looked like he could do a job. Absolutely. And I hope Sorensen does have a great career. I’d be as happy as anyone if he came back and showed his quality to help us get promoted. My issue is with Bayern and his arrogance. There have been countless examples of him being ‘right’ about players who he claims we let go when we shouldn’t have. Players who pretty much to a man have gone on to have careers that proved they didn’t have the ability/attitude to succeed at Championship level or higher.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 29, 2024 6:06:09 GMT
Someone of Keenan Davis ilk wanting to get back in the limelight He’s completely disappeared off the radar where is he now? Last I heard he was at Forest. Udinese. Didn’t realise but he’s 26 now. Only scored 15 in his whole career in 120 games. After a recent bad injury he’d be a big gamble. Not sure he’s what we’d need right now. Though he’s getting on a bit I don’t think Jay Rodriguez would be a bad short term solution as someone who could share the workload. Very good player on his day who could help bring through a younger player like Lowe.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 29, 2024 6:29:57 GMT
Please God no, I don't want another summer of Keinan Davis rumours and people actually thinking he's a good player.
He's pish.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 6:31:18 GMT
Huge, huge summer ahead but a very different model and very different approach first job is to get as many of the hopeless away or make it clear they have no future here , as we can , secure the out of contract we can and go from there so ideally
1 Vidigal , Mmaee , Wesley , Johnson , Haks . Pearson ( if Burgur stays ) all away , Pearson presumably will stay if Burgur goes to fight it out with Thompson , Sadly i think Baker will leave too
2 Thomson Steven’s , Campbell all in
( it wouldn’t surprise me of Burgur is allowed to leave for the right offer given we have three for that role )
Then establish which loans want or we want or can return ideally Hoover and McNally & Cundle
The icing on the cake will be who we can the add much work to be done before then but we need 1 Keeper 2 1 centre half 3 1 left back 4 3 minimum forwards 5 1 midfield to replace baker
Im expecting by far the best window for 8 years on and off the pitch.
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Post by nickw180582 on Apr 29, 2024 7:37:07 GMT
I hope we're in for Jay Stansfield, especially if Brum go down on Saturday. Really impressed in a struggling side.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Apr 29, 2024 7:49:21 GMT
Blackburn want up to £20m for the Republic of Ireland forward Sammie Szmodics, with Brentford, Luton and Sheffield United all interested in the 28-year-old. (Sun) Is he worth 20 million? 31 goals this season. 25 in The Championship. And in a pretty average team as well. £20 million is steep, but that is the going rate for goal Scorers at the moment. When was the last time a Stoke City forward genuinely looked like hitting 20+ goals. 😅
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Post by Gods on Apr 29, 2024 7:52:08 GMT
Blackburn want up to £20m for the Republic of Ireland forward Sammie Szmodics, with Brentford, Luton and Sheffield United all interested in the 28-year-old. (Sun) Is he worth 20 million? 31 goals this season. 25 in The Championship. And in a pretty average team as well. £20 million is steep, but that is the going rate for goal Scorers at the moment. When was the last time a Stoke City forward genuinely looked like hitting 20+ goals. 😅 You ask a good question! But who was the one before that?
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Post by Northy on Apr 29, 2024 8:21:06 GMT
Someone of Keenan Davis ilk wanting to get back in the limelight He’s completely disappeared off the radar where is he now? Last I heard he was at Forest. He's in Italy, was out injured for a year, not particularly him but someone like that who wants to get more back into the limelight, there's a few young British players playing over in Italy atm who maybe want to return back home.
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Post by jokker on Apr 29, 2024 9:55:16 GMT
We've tried to find that first choice ever since Pieters was given a five year contract and promptly stopped putting in an effort, and we haven't found that player yet. As I've said before, scfc are beggars, not choosers. Till we can find a 100% fit lb - we probably never will - we have to make do with what we've got. Refuse to accept we can't sign a fit left back who is good enough In theory we should. But we're not the only club that's looking for a decent natural left foot. There's 91 other league clubs who are on the lookout for the very same thing, but there's not 92 good left backs in the kingdom. Our best chance of getting one is to develop one or more through the youth sector. It's been tried, but the results were disastrous...
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 10:00:22 GMT
I just want us to sign a keeper that will be here for 2/3 seasons. I don’t disagree though we should have had begovic in the summer. We had an idiot in charge of transfers last summer
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Post by jokker on Apr 29, 2024 10:00:57 GMT
This article gives a pretty good definition of the modern fullback: "The modern full-back’s duties are at both ends of the pitch; they must support attacks and defend in almost equal measure." They key point is this: What are the disadvantages to playing with a modern full-back?Playing with a modern full-back can leave big gaps in wide areas into which the opposition can counter-attack. If they can access this space, the centre-backs may be left exposed with a fast attacker dribbling towards them at pace. If a coach asks the full-back to contribute to both the attacking and defending phases of the game, but the player isn’t capable of doing one or the other adequately, the team can suffer. The position requires immense physical capacity, particularly in terms of speed, stamina and endurance; if the player selected cannot keep up with the pace of the game, their team can be left with serious deficiencies at one or both ends of the pitch." The thing is to play this role well players have to be exceptional - they have to be able to attack, defend and cover more of the pitch (at speed) than any other position on the pitch. A modern fullback who cannot defend is a complete liability - any half decent opposition will make mincemeat out of a team with a modern fullback who can't defend properly. You cannot turn a blind eye to a fullback who can't defend. If you can't get a "modern fullback" to defend properly any sane coach will drop them and change formation to accommodate a more traditional, defensive minded fullback. No you’ve just latched onto something that suits your point of view. Both Hoever and Tymon can defend to actually say any player simply can’t defend it utter nonsense. A player might be vulnerable in a defensive position for numerous reasons ie poor in the air, weak in the challenge, slow of foot or mind, short attention span/lacking powers of concentration, positionally undisciplined. Our two most recent manager/head coach have both deployed Hoever as a CB never mind FB and yet throngs of armchair experts on here claim he can’t defend of course he can. O'Neill solved the problem at first by asking Clucas to be Tymon's minder. Whenever Josh was caught upfield, Clucas would drop in from midfield and cover the left back role, which came natural, since he'd played there earlier in his career. It worked very well in that season. But then Clucas lost form and was often injured, and Tymon did too. In fact everything crumbled. Sometimes this season, when he's been picked, Leris has done a similar thing for Hoever. They're good together.
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Post by gaznandi on Apr 29, 2024 10:04:27 GMT
'Viktor Johansson, the former Sheffield United transfer target, is expected to leave Rotherham United this summer, Millers manager Steve Evans has admitted, after their drop from the Championship. The Swedish international is available for a reduced fee, thought to be around £750,000 initially, thanks to a relegation release clause in his contract'
Starting bids from that then.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 29, 2024 10:13:22 GMT
'Viktor Johansson, the former Sheffield United transfer target, is expected to leave Rotherham United this summer, Millers manager Steve Evans has admitted, after their drop from the Championship. The Swedish international is available for a reduced fee, thought to be around £750,000 initially, thanks to a relegation release clause in his contract' Starting bids from that then. If it's a clause, then that's the only bid required...
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