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Post by ct1 on Jun 24, 2024 15:51:27 GMT
I'll see Whittakers uncle later, I'll ask him if he knows anything. Ask him why he left old Durham Town. Always baffled me, such a nice place Roger that
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 24, 2024 15:56:06 GMT
Ask him why he left old Durham Town. Always baffled me, such a nice place Roger that š
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Post by etebojan on Jun 24, 2024 16:02:10 GMT
Ask him why he left old Durham Town. Always baffled me, such a nice place Roger that
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 24, 2024 16:49:16 GMT
I'll see Whittakers uncle later, I'll ask him if he knows anything. Ask him why he left old Durham Town. Always baffled me, such a nice place He still canāt talk about it. It gets him down so much.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 24, 2024 17:32:07 GMT
Ask him why he left old Durham Town. Always baffled me, such a nice place He still canāt talk about it. It gets him down so much. Hopefully he wasn't on some list as he looked such a nice chap. Maybe he owed some wrong uns money or had overdue library books
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Post by cdf on Jun 24, 2024 17:41:35 GMT
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 24, 2024 17:48:56 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 17:50:19 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø Might sound harsh but maybe he just hasnāt been able to cut it with the big boys. Happens all the time. Itās a shame but still
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 24, 2024 17:54:38 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø Might sound harsh but maybe he just hasnāt been able to cut it with the big boys. Happens all the time. Itās a shame but still Agreed. I donāt see how playing football is a bad thing for someone who wants to make a career as a footballer. They either do well at it or they donāt.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2024 18:25:25 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø Heās just back from a serious injury been out for 10 months after doing his cruciateā¦ā¦
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 24, 2024 18:26:56 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø Might sound harsh but maybe he just hasnāt been able to cut it with the big boys. Happens all the time. Itās a shame but still I just canāt help but think us throwing him in the heat at such a young age has fucked him up a bitā¦add to that him moving to a foreign country n his dad passing at such a young age. Maybe if we had handled him better things wouldāve turned out different, you are maybe right but we definitely mis managed himš“āŖļø
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 18:29:42 GMT
Might sound harsh but maybe he just hasnāt been able to cut it with the big boys. Happens all the time. Itās a shame but still I just canāt help but think us throwing him in the heat at such a young age has fucked him up a bitā¦add to that him moving to a foreign country n his dad passing at such a young age. Maybe if we had handled him better things wouldāve turned out different, you are maybe right but we definitely mis managed himš“āŖļø I donāt think you can blame the club for it personally. He was picked for the team, the goals flew in from all angles with little resistance and he got dropped before it got worse. Like I say, itās a shame but hundreds of players have ended up like this, heās not an anomaly
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 24, 2024 18:34:10 GMT
I just canāt help but think us throwing him in the heat at such a young age has fucked him up a bitā¦add to that him moving to a foreign country n his dad passing at such a young age. Maybe if we had handled him better things wouldāve turned out different, you are maybe right but we definitely mis managed himš“āŖļø I donāt think you can blame the club for it personally. He was picked for the team, the goals flew in from all angles with little resistance and he got dropped before it got worse. Like I say, itās a shame but hundreds of players have ended up like this, heās not an anomaly Donāt you think he was too young for the first team and his confidence took a fair knock?š“āŖļø
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 24, 2024 18:43:55 GMT
I also think he might be a bit of a one season wonder. Doesn't convince me at all. Thats a possibility and he seemed to drop off the second half of the season Derby fans didn't rate him However stunning two seasons for him, the manager link is hugely beneficial, if he's genuinely adept left and central as well as right side if the money works(Baker going the other way makes sense) it's definitely one to think about My guess would be Plymouth didn't get anywhere near as high offers as reported as otherwise they would have sold him already Still going to be a big fee though you'd think (?) As a Campbell replacement. Iād have kept Campbell
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 24, 2024 18:46:51 GMT
Might sound harsh but maybe he just hasnāt been able to cut it with the big boys. Happens all the time. Itās a shame but still I just canāt help but think us throwing him in the heat at such a young age has fucked him up a bitā¦add to that him moving to a foreign country n his dad passing at such a young age. Maybe if we had handled him better things wouldāve turned out different, you are maybe right but we definitely mis managed himš“āŖļø I donāt think itās us throwing him in, he has like 50 games in lower league before us. Itās the fact we were fucking rotten when it happened might have set him back.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 18:47:47 GMT
Thats a possibility and he seemed to drop off the second half of the season Derby fans didn't rate him However stunning two seasons for him, the manager link is hugely beneficial, if he's genuinely adept left and central as well as right side if the money works(Baker going the other way makes sense) it's definitely one to think about My guess would be Plymouth didn't get anywhere near as high offers as reported as otherwise they would have sold him already Still going to be a big fee though you'd think (?) As a Campbell replacement. Iād have kept Campbell The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We were right to cut our losses.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 18:49:09 GMT
I donāt think you can blame the club for it personally. He was picked for the team, the goals flew in from all angles with little resistance and he got dropped before it got worse. Like I say, itās a shame but hundreds of players have ended up like this, heās not an anomaly Donāt you think he was too young for the first team and his confidence took a fair knock?š“āŖļø I think he had enough experience, he was simply too flaky. Whether that was his age I guess time will tell
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 24, 2024 18:50:17 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø If we don't play the youngsters they get criticised. He simply wasn't good enough. How is it bad management and incompetence that 3 keepers get injured at once and he'd already had plenty of loan games under his belt?
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 24, 2024 19:01:25 GMT
As a Campbell replacement. Iād have kept Campbell The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We were right to cut our losses. True, but his end of season form was good. And the difference in cost between them for a back up/rotation.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2024 19:02:49 GMT
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We were right to cut our losses. True, but his end of season form was good. And the difference in cost between them for a back up/rotation. I just donāt think he really likes playing tbh, in a professional capacity
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Post by RF10 on Jun 24, 2024 19:03:36 GMT
How the fuck has this happened š¤¦š¼āāļø I canāt help but feel we did him absolutely no favoursā¦he was far too under cooked but got played far too much at such a young age through incompetence from the managementā¦fucks off to Belgium, loses his dad n ends up at Hibs on loanš¤¦š¼āāļø Feel for the ladš“āŖļø If we don't play the youngsters they get criticised. He simply wasn't good enough. Yep some make it some don't. You only have to look at the England U 17 world cup winning squad. Bursik was on bench and the starting keeper now works in Finance.
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Post by tuum on Jun 24, 2024 19:07:39 GMT
I donāt think you can blame the club for it personally. He was picked for the team, the goals flew in from all angles with little resistance and he got dropped before it got worse. Like I say, itās a shame but hundreds of players have ended up like this, heās not an anomaly Donāt you think he was too young for the first team and his confidence took a fair knock?š“āŖļø No. In the end he just wasn't good enough.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 24, 2024 19:09:28 GMT
If we don't play the youngsters they get criticised. He simply wasn't good enough. Yep some make it some don't. You only have to look at the England U 17 world cup winning squad. Bursik was on bench and the starting keeper now works in Finance. Is ok blaming everyone else but the bottom line is you have to take your chance when it comes along. The management team were hammered by many for not throwing youngsters in at the time and turned out they were right. Bursik got his chance due to a bizarre injury series of events and had already been out on loan so not new to him. He basically was beaten way too easily way too often. Any low shot seemed to beat him
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 24, 2024 19:15:59 GMT
He can play anywhere across the front 3. He played primarily Left wing under schuey. If we had him bae and million behind a striker who knows where the goal is could be so dangerous. However, I cant imagine he would come to us as they reportedly rejected a Ā£20 million bid in January from Lazio. I remember Rooney subbing him on in the 25th minute for Derby then subbing him off 20 mins later so maybe he isnt too happy about the new manager? I'm sure he's mostly played on the left under Schumacher. Also I think lazio offered 8m euros I think. In League One he played both left and right from game to game. Last season, he played the vast majority of games on the right. I think Schuey wants two attacking midfielders cutting in from their positions behind the striker. Whittaker is left footed so he would come in from the right, but we already have Million there who's also left footed. Junho appears to be earmarked for the left sided AM position at the moment, given the strong end to the season he had there.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jun 24, 2024 19:26:32 GMT
Id quite like Whitaker but doubt heāll be cheap
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Post by gingerninja on Jun 24, 2024 19:30:06 GMT
Whittaker has only really had one god season scoring wise, would be a massive risk to splurge biggish money on him, even if we had itš¤
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 24, 2024 19:40:44 GMT
Appreciate all your opinions on Bursik chapsš“āŖļø
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 24, 2024 19:47:04 GMT
Bursik started very promising, but got worse and worse unfortunately. Must admit I was really glad to see him go. ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/jitsPgqXBozY69AOPrPg.gif)
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 24, 2024 20:10:07 GMT
As a Campbell replacement. Iād have kept Campbell The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We were right to cut our losses. So we let him go because he was insane? Sounds the right decision tbh.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 24, 2024 20:12:16 GMT
Appreciate all your opinions on Bursik chapsš“āŖļø He wasn't great and only got picked for England because he could ping it out from the back a bit. And he wasn't great at that either it turned out. I really wanted him to succeed but he became a liability.
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