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Post by MilanStokie on Apr 26, 2024 21:44:19 GMT
Who has thrown a £3m value at Souttar??? In what world has he gone from £15m-18m to £3m in less than 2 years? Irrelevant what you may think his actual worth is, purely on accounts he is still going to be worth at the very least £8-10m and I don't see anyone spending that other than a rich club coming down. In all honesty, he will very likely end up on loan back in the Championship next season. We robbed them blind. He was awful in the PL, totally exposed for his lack of pace. 8-10m for a flop is way too much. It doesn't matter if we robbed them blind, his contract has a value and there is no chance they are cashing in at such a low price after less than 2 years. 8-10 is around the figure it would probably take for a permanent move, which is unlikely to happen. So as I've said, continuous loans are probable until his contract eventually expires.
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Post by MilanStokie on Apr 26, 2024 21:45:55 GMT
But it doesn't work that way does it? In terms of finances, it would be worse for them to sell much lower than his current value on the basis of amortisation, wouldn't it? It makes far more sense to wait for a £8-10m bid or continue to loan out for the next couple of season and make it back that way.They won't make any of it back that way.They will manage to get some of his wages paid if they are lucky. Remember how we had to loan out players for years under MON and we didn't get any of our money back either. Mistakes in the transfer market are very costly nowadays and Leicester are going to have to pay the price. It will depend on the market won't it? Getting a loan fee and a wage contribution 2-3 times will help a lot towards covering the total outlay of his contract.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2024 22:22:04 GMT
We robbed them blind. He was awful in the PL, totally exposed for his lack of pace. 8-10m for a flop is way too much. It doesn't matter if we robbed them blind, his contract has a value and there is no chance they are cashing in at such a low price after less than 2 years. 8-10 is around the figure it would probably take for a permanent move, which is unlikely to happen. So as I've said, continuous loans are probable until his contract eventually expires. So he’s worth about 3m is what you’re saying 🤣🤣
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 26, 2024 22:28:31 GMT
If he wants to come and it’s financially viable Harry is a no brainer. He was immense for us, needs to get his caterer on track and knows the club/area.
Why wouldn’t you?
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Post by MilanStokie on Apr 26, 2024 22:58:47 GMT
It doesn't matter if we robbed them blind, his contract has a value and there is no chance they are cashing in at such a low price after less than 2 years. 8-10 is around the figure it would probably take for a permanent move, which is unlikely to happen. So as I've said, continuous loans are probable until his contract eventually expires. So he’s worth about 3m is what you’re saying 🤣🤣 He's worth whatever someone would be willing to pay, or whatever Leicester would be willing to accept. Whether or not you think he is/was worth the fee we got for him is not relevant. It would be harmful for Leicester to sell at such a low price. At the time, I thought we got a favourable deal. I had £12m in my mind so to get 15m rising to 18m was good business by us (for once)
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Post by baconburger on Apr 27, 2024 10:12:42 GMT
Who’s buying them pair? We’d literally struggle to give them away. I could see there being a possibility to sell Vidigal back to a Portuguese team but can't see it being much more than £1m. He is a nothing player who lived off his first month here for way too long. When I saw his Youtube montage I didn't see much technical ability and I suspected he would be a failure here. I started to doubt my opinion on that after his first few games, naturally. But it seems to be the case. His stats also show how overrated her is/was. He had 1 good season in his career and was deployed more centrally but as a Wide/Attacking midfielder, his assist stats are dreadful but has a goal in him, now and again. He simply cannot create and should be 1 of the first out the door (IMO of course) Yeah he's got a finish in him but I'm sick of his mardarsing, any reasonable offer Adios. Million looks much more up for the physical battle that is unavoidable in the championship. Same with Mmaee fairy footballers both.
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Post by baconburger on Apr 27, 2024 10:16:54 GMT
Didn’t we find buyers in January? If we had found a buyer for Mmaee then I’m guessing he would have been gone considering he was ostracised from the squad at that point. He’s another one we are going to have to take a big hit on. Both cheap punts no big hits to be had Vidigal €500,000 and Mmaee €2M up front won't have triggered any addons. Neither will be on a big wage both will attract some sort of fee. Little losses in the big picture of things neither will end up costing as much as Wesley's wages.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 27, 2024 10:27:20 GMT
3 mil plus for Souttar….give your fucking head a wobble 🙄😂🔴⚪️ How much do you think they would sell? The least I would expect would be 8M. We can't afford him, the only way he's coming here is on loan I wouldn’t say your far wrong mate🔴⚪️
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 27, 2024 10:29:34 GMT
They won't make any of it back that way.They will manage to get some of his wages paid if they are lucky. Remember how we had to loan out players for years under MON and we didn't get any of our money back either. Mistakes in the transfer market are very costly nowadays and Leicester are going to have to pay the price. It will depend on the market won't it? Getting a loan fee and a wage contribution 2-3 times will help a lot towards covering the total outlay of his contract. Leicester have to sell but they can't afford to sell cheap. I think you are right - Souttar is more likely to be loaned out to avoid a big loss next year. One of the promoted sides might pay big money for him but I don't think any Championship sides could afford him, including us. Move on.
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Post by potters1 on Apr 27, 2024 15:40:27 GMT
1. A strong and fast center back. Doesn’t need to be a creative force. Head it. Chase it. Clear it. Play a 5 yard pass when needed. Tuanzebe was a monster in the few games he played for us although could play too, but it was his defending that was key to results. It was no coincidence our best performances were with him playing. I get why we didn’t sign him based on injuries but that’s the level we need if we want to progress. Rose or Wilmot can play alongside. 2. A finisher. 25 goals min. 3. A left back with pace. Doesn’t have to be creative. Just a good defender with pace. It was also no coincidence that when we had the Chelsea kid who went to Rangers, that we also had a big upturn in results.
Nothing else needed. We don’t need 43 players in. Just adding 3 good ones. Please don’t buy any more effing midfielders. We have tons who can do a job.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 27, 2024 16:58:58 GMT
Could be an interesting summer both for ins and outs.
Though we’ve improved lately I’d imagine SS will have a list.
Based on the winter window I could us losing the loans and a few others moving on.
*outs* Vidigal Mmaee (possibly) Baker Laurent (maybe) Johnson Wesley Lowe and Tezgal loans
*Ins* Campbell (think he’ll stay) Cundle (if he’s cheapish) Thompson Hoever (would love him on another loan) GK I like the lad from Bournemouth a new CB to replace McNally (rumours around the one from Plymouth) CB cover LB (lad from posh) another CM 2 new strikers a priority 1 pacey wideman for cover. 2 if Campbell leaves
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 27, 2024 17:08:30 GMT
I wonder what the chances of getting Cameron Archer on loan would be?
Can’t see him getting any game time at Villa and he’s had a poor season so unlikely to attract much interest from other Premier League sides.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 27, 2024 17:12:36 GMT
I wonder what the chances of getting Cameron Archer on loan would be? Can’t see him getting any game time at Villa and he’s had a poor season so unlikely to attract much interest from other Premier League sides. I don't he will get any game time for Villa either as a Blades player.
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Post by xchpotter on Apr 27, 2024 17:13:28 GMT
Hearing Schumacher talk about the player ability, just lacking belief, and not representative of where we are in the league, you’d think some could stay if they get their attitude right. That being said, we shouldn’t let the euphoria of staying up cloud judgement because some players really are shite…..no time for sentiment if we want to get back on track.
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Post by whatsashig on Apr 27, 2024 17:16:51 GMT
Anyone without doubt causes no disgruntlement amongst all fans. Just make this board a representative of a point in time we can be ~united~ galvanised.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Apr 27, 2024 17:21:54 GMT
Travers or Johanson A Quality leader of a CH Brereton Diaz
Would do for starters
Doubt we’ll get BBD though
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 27, 2024 18:28:53 GMT
I wonder what the chances of getting Cameron Archer on loan would be? Can’t see him getting any game time at Villa and he’s had a poor season so unlikely to attract much interest from other Premier League sides. I don't he will get any game time for Villa either as a Blades player. He’s going back to Villa, there was a clause in the deal meaning Villa had to re-sign him if Sheffield United were relegated.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 27, 2024 18:33:47 GMT
I know he's a Stoke fan but you're in cloud cuckoo land if you think Bereton Diaz is a possibility this summer.
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 27, 2024 18:37:32 GMT
GK - Johansson Iverson if fees are sensible LB - Burrows or RB - Hoever (loan) CB - Lascelles is exactly what we need. CB - Galloway LW - Lovric (or anyone who is budget Arnatovic) ST - no idea.
For Musik and the Norwegian contingent.
Is there any chance of Hauge, Berg, Bjorkan?
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 18:37:46 GMT
I don't he will get any game time for Villa either as a Blades player. He’s going back to Villa, there was a clause in the deal meaning Villa had to re-sign him if Sheffield United were relegated. Bizarre exactly the player Sheffield United need in the Championship
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 18:38:11 GMT
GK - Johansson Iverson if fees are sensible LB - Burrows or RB - Hoever (loan) CB - Lascelles is exactly what we need. CB - Galloway LW - Lovric (or anyone who is budget Arnatovic) ST - no idea. Lascelles got a new deal I think
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 27, 2024 18:41:18 GMT
He’s going back to Villa, there was a clause in the deal meaning Villa had to re-sign him if Sheffield United were relegated. Bizarre exactly the player Sheffield United need in the Championship Yes him and Hamer are superb players at this level. I think they bought him for £18m and now Villa have to buy him back for £10m so Sheffield United have effectively paid £8m for a season long loan.
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Post by jokker on Apr 27, 2024 18:51:31 GMT
If I had to sign someone, I'd go for Chido Obi Martin, who tends to score 5-10 goals per game. He's Danish-Anglo. Apparently he can't make up his mind which of those two nations he wants to star for. I'd say his chances are bigger for Denmark, once Højlund's goals dry up, if they haven't already.
But any bids for him would probably be blocked by the matchless Stoke fanbase. Because he currently plays for Arsenal...where he will probably never get a senior game, because of their big name signings. Meet them and ourselves halfway and sign him as a loan next season.
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Post by emretezzy on Apr 27, 2024 19:09:23 GMT
We robbed them blind. He was awful in the PL, totally exposed for his lack of pace. 8-10m for a flop is way too much. It doesn't matter if we robbed them blind, his contract has a value and there is no chance they are cashing in at such a low price after less than 2 years. 8-10 is around the figure it would probably take for a permanent move, which is unlikely to happen. So as I've said, continuous loans are probable until his contract eventually expires. Same as Wimmer and the likes here. Hes borderline worthless for them due to the contract. No one will take it on and as such he will be loaned unitl it runs out.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 27, 2024 19:13:44 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 27, 2024 19:34:21 GMT
The buy back was optional if Sheffield United stayed up, if they were relegated it’s an obligation. It’s been pretty common knowledge in Sheffield that he won’t be there next season.
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 27, 2024 19:37:45 GMT
If I had to sign someone, I'd go for Chido Obi Martin, who tends to score 5-10 goals per game. He's Danish-Anglo. Apparently he can't make up his mind which of those two nations he wants to star for. I'd say his chances are bigger for Denmark, once Højlund's goals dry up, if they haven't already. But any bids for him would probably be blocked by the matchless Stoke fanbase. Because he currently plays for Arsenal...where he will probably never get a senior game, because of their big name signings. Meet them and ourselves halfway and sign him as a loan next season. I’ve edited my post above. Is there any chance of Bjorkan, berg or Hauge?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 27, 2024 19:43:55 GMT
Sierhuis at Fortuna Sittard would be within our reach you'd think
Can score goals
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 27, 2024 20:23:12 GMT
I'd start with one of Johansson, Travers or Iverson as the GK
Get a partnership of Connor Coady (permanent) and Harry Souttar (loan) as our CBs.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 20:28:10 GMT
I'd start with one of Johansson, Travers or Iverson as the GK Get a partnership of Connor Coady (permanent) and Harry Souttar (loan) as our CBs. How much would Coadey cost? Surely that's a non starter unless a loan?
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