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Post by beats88 on Aug 30, 2024 8:53:09 GMT
That player has just signed for Wrexham lol Yeh confirmed by Wrexham. Keep up Homzy lol
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 30, 2024 8:55:19 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 30, 2024 8:56:07 GMT
Again would prefer perm but would be a good signing.
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Post by Bang Bang Cauliflower on Aug 30, 2024 8:56:51 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 30, 2024 8:57:07 GMT
Loans can be a great tool and hopefully it works out, but next summer we could potentially with sales lose, Koumas Junho Million Moran Cundle? Striker Loan? We could lose our complete forward line up and be left with another big rebuild. I suppose the argument is that perms can still be lost if they have a good season, or you are left with terrible perms on long contracts. So does it make any difference? As we’re seeing with Ennis if you buy the right profile of player you don’t get stuck with them if they don’t work out. We haven’t really bought players for fees and got stuck with them for quite a few years. Would Vokes be the last one to fit that description?
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Post by minnierover on Aug 30, 2024 8:59:25 GMT
Miles wide of the mark there. Been talking to Wrexham for days and now signed for them.
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Post by campbellsleftpeg on Aug 30, 2024 9:01:52 GMT
neither is messi, or more local koumas!
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Post by hd51 on Aug 30, 2024 9:05:06 GMT
By the sounds of it on twitter Leicester have changed their stance to a loan. Assuming Walters' relationship with Huth could play a part here
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Post by stokecitytalke on Aug 30, 2024 9:12:44 GMT
Loans can be a great tool and hopefully it works out, but next summer we could potentially with sales lose, Koumas Junho Million Moran Cundle? Striker Loan? We could lose our complete forward line up and be left with another big rebuild. I suppose the argument is that perms can still be lost if they have a good season, or you are left with terrible perms on long contracts. So does it make any difference? Let's worry about next summer - next summer.
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Post by Ron on Aug 30, 2024 9:17:17 GMT
Still think amongst all this youth another real experienced championship head is required. See Ipswich with morsy.
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Post by onepara on Aug 30, 2024 9:19:12 GMT
Still think amongst all this youth another real experienced championship head is required. See Ipswich with morsy. We'll have Pearson.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 30, 2024 9:21:57 GMT
Still think amongst all this youth another real experienced championship head is required. See Ipswich with morsy. We'll have Pearson. And Gibson and Gallagher a seasoned championship player in every department.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 30, 2024 9:31:52 GMT
Looks to me like a very brave "shit or bust" strategy. Certainly lacking physicality with a line up which consistently has at least 4 loan players as regular starters, assuming the last loan spot goes to a striker. Exciting and worrying at the same time. There is no point in loaning players who are not good enough to start. I am not advocating guaranteed starts but the last thing you want is a disgruntled loanees causing unrest in a squad.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 30, 2024 9:38:12 GMT
I like Cundle but do we need him right now? Permanent would make sense but not really a loan Who will cover Moran. I think last week was a failed experiment to see if Junho could. No other player springs to mind as one who can find those little pockets of space. I for one wouldn't be surprised to occasionally see Moran and Cundle as the 8s with Lawal or Burger, or even possibly in some matches Sidibe sitting deeper
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 30, 2024 9:41:38 GMT
Looks to me like a very brave "shit or bust" strategy. Certainly lacking physicality with a line up which consistently has at least 4 loan players as regular starters, assuming the last loan spot goes to a striker. Exciting and worrying at the same time. There is no point in loaning players who are not good enough to start. I am not advocating guaranteed starts but the last thing you want is a disgruntled loanees causing unrest in a squad. Like Koumas and Moran 🙄 Do we want to be top 6 or just top half
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 30, 2024 9:42:42 GMT
I like Cundle but do we need him right now? Permanent would make sense but not really a loan Who will cover Moran. I think last week was a failed experiment to see if Junho could. No other player springs to mind as one who can find those little pockets of space. I for one wouldn't be surprised to occasionally see Moran and Cundle as the 8s with Lawal or Burger, or even possibly in some matches Sidibe sitting deeper I dont think it was a failed experiment Junho clearly isnt fit and the players behind him also had a shitter which I'm sure didnt help.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 30, 2024 9:44:14 GMT
Does seem like we are assembling a team of dwarfs which is concerning given how West Brom dominated us aerially I guess the idea that we will 'outplay' the opposition on the ground is attractive but you need a mixture and I think the balance isn't sufficient as it stands If we don't bring in a striker today someone wants shooting as if we are relying on what we have we will have a long hard season (we won't be playing Middlesbrough's youth team every week) Ashley Phillips looks like a huge unit and Lawal will add midfield physicality. You don't have to mistake physicality with size either. Koumas playing his first game for us wasn't worried about mixing it with the WBA defenders. Bae times his tackles brilliantly and won't be bullied and I remember Cundle being able to spin off defenders. I think a lot of big physical defenders hate playing against technical forwards who won't be bullied.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 30, 2024 9:45:37 GMT
Looks to me like a very brave "shit or bust" strategy. Certainly lacking physicality with a line up which consistently has at least 4 loan players as regular starters, assuming the last loan spot goes to a striker. Exciting and worrying at the same time. There is no point in loaning players who are not good enough to start. I am not advocating guaranteed starts but the last thing you want is a disgruntled loanees causing unrest in a squad. Not a failed experiment at all. Junhos first game back after a month out. Took him 30 mins to get going but towards the end of the half he got much better and involved. He played there on his debut for Korea and scored..he can absolutely play there if required
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 9:46:26 GMT
The loan situation is an odd one and I'm not sure how clubs should cut it?
On one hand they could be the difference makers (Koumas early doors looks to be this) but if things go wrong they could be blocking the path for your own young players.
If they all do well then you have up to half a first team to replace next summer.
It's tough but it's how the league pyramid has made it with P&S rules running the show, with the bottom feeders in the pyramid literally begging for these rules in exchange for a bit of cash.
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Post by Ron on Aug 30, 2024 9:50:18 GMT
And Gibson and Gallagher a seasoned championship player in every department. True- but i think we could do with another - with a bit of quality. Gooch i guess could also fall into that bracket. That said the expriecenced palyers weve just shifted ( bar baker) didnt relally pull up trees.
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 30, 2024 9:51:03 GMT
The loan situation is an odd one and I'm not sure how clubs should cut it? On one hand they could be the difference makers (Koumas early doors looks to be this) but if things go wrong they could be blocking the path for your own young players. If they all do well then you have up to half a first team to replace next summer. It's tough but it's how the league pyramid has made it with P&S rules running the show, with the bottom feeders in the pyramid literally begging for these rules in exchange for a bit of cash. We need to establish some credibility again for the sake of future buys/loans. We need to be top end, pushing for promotion and playing exciting football. If that means loans then that’s a good first step. Every year we languish in the bottom half our reputation dwindles. We need to be top 6 and we need to be an attractive proposition for future loanees or purchases
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 9:53:37 GMT
The loan situation is an odd one and I'm not sure how clubs should cut it? On one hand they could be the difference makers (Koumas early doors looks to be this) but if things go wrong they could be blocking the path for your own young players. If they all do well then you have up to half a first team to replace next summer. It's tough but it's how the league pyramid has made it with P&S rules running the show, with the bottom feeders in the pyramid literally begging for these rules in exchange for a bit of cash. We need to establish some credibility again for the sake of future buys/loans. We need to be top end, pushing for promotion and playing exciting football. If that means loans then that’s a good first step. Every year we languish in the bottom half our reputation dwindles. We need to be top 6 and we need to be an attractive proposition for future loanees or purchases I don't doubt all that and agree. I just think it's a hard one for Championship clubs to work with. Even some of the buys from PL clubs for their young players come with the buy back clause inserted. Essentially and eventually you are turning the Championship, a league that is one of the best supported in Europe, into a development league for the PL.
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Post by walton corner on Aug 30, 2024 9:57:58 GMT
There is no point in loaning players who are not good enough to start. I am not advocating guaranteed starts but the last thing you want is a disgruntled loanees causing unrest in a squad. Like Koumas and Moran 🙄 Do we want to be top 6 or just top half Top half would be an improvement
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 30, 2024 10:00:07 GMT
I wonder if Al-Hamadi is still up our sleeve if Cannon fails..
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 30, 2024 10:02:20 GMT
McNally to Bristol City permanently
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 30, 2024 10:03:24 GMT
It’ll be interesting to see who gets announced first.
I always get a bit jumpy till I see the scarf being held up or the player in the shirt.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 30, 2024 10:04:09 GMT
I wonder if Al-Hamadi is still up our sleeve if Cannon fails.. I believe there must be a plan B in place, perhaps Al-Hamadi or someone else.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 30, 2024 10:04:22 GMT
McNally to Bristol City permanently Wonder how much they paid. Thought he was OK but nothing more.
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Post by gaznandi on Aug 30, 2024 10:10:42 GMT
Neal Maupay has completed a move away from Everton.
The striker has joined Marseille on loan with an obligation to buy.
He will join for an initial £6million potentially rising £10million.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 30, 2024 10:11:16 GMT
Cannon done according to homzy. No surprises today it would seem then! Seko, Cundle and Cannon. Time to log off.
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