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Post by Biblical on Aug 29, 2024 19:38:22 GMT
i’m still unsure if he’s good or not , but want him sign just to see Bayerns meltdown 😉🤣😂 It should annoy everyone as it blocks the pathway for Sidibe. Sol isn’t the same type of midfielder as Cundle is he though? Moran and Cundle seem pretty similar in terms of creativity and don’t think any of the midfielders currently in our books have that level of creativity. If Moran gets injured it would massively hamper us imo.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 19:38:38 GMT
don’t think it does , different type of player , i’d say Lawal and Seko will block him though He can play any of the 3 roles in what Schumacher does. We don’t need all of these midfielders. Thompson Burger Moran Sidibe Lawal Seko Is plenty. 6 players for 3 positions. Why is there only one advanced midfielder amongst the lot but 5 who suit the 1 deeper role??
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2024 19:38:39 GMT
You don’t need 7 midfielders who will all be expecting to start, 8 if you include Pearson. It blocks him massively. I would like to think that no one blocks anyone Bayern, if he’s good enough and shows it week in week out, he will start. It’s as simple as that. Surely? I think that’s a very naive viewpoint.
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 29, 2024 19:39:09 GMT
I would like to think that no one blocks anyone Bayern, if he’s good enough and shows it week in week out, he will start. It’s as simple as that. Surely? I think that’s a very naive viewpoint. Why?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2024 19:40:12 GMT
It should annoy everyone as it blocks the pathway for Sidibe. Sol isn’t the same type of midfielder as Cundle is he though? Moran and Cundle seem pretty similar in terms of creativity and don’t think any of the midfielders currently in our books have that level of creativity. If Moran gets injured it would massively hamper us imo. I think Sidibe can play any 3 of the roles in the 433. You don’t need both Cundle and Moran. Junho can play there if you want the more creative player. And I’d expect Sidibe to flourish playing there. His link play is excellent.
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 29, 2024 19:41:00 GMT
Cundle having medical (at Stoke)? Not tonight he isn't
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 19:41:48 GMT
Completely different type of player. Obviously from the same school of though that says you can play Burger as an advanced midfielder then wonder why it doesn't work. He’s a box to box midfielder clearly. 🤦♂️🤣 Why you keep banging this drum is anyone’s guess. If you can't see the difference I can't help you. There might be a clue in the box to box title. They're generally deep lying midfielders who drive forward not attacking midfielders who work back.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 29, 2024 19:41:59 GMT
Cundle having medical (at Stoke)? Not tonight he isn't Tomorrow then Lee?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 29, 2024 19:42:04 GMT
Nicolas Cage vs John Travolta is nothing compared to this. Bacon vs Bayern is the ultimate Face/Off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2024 19:42:32 GMT
I think that’s a very naive viewpoint. Why? Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what?
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Post by karl on Aug 29, 2024 19:44:07 GMT
Do you think they are still working on things at CW or done for the night ready for the crazy transfer deadline day.
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Post by thornestein on Aug 29, 2024 19:44:09 GMT
Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what? weren’t you saying earlier in the window you could understand Cundle as a loan but not as a permanent 🤔
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Post by PotterLee on Aug 29, 2024 19:44:15 GMT
I'll let you know tomorrow. Definitely isn't tonight though.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 29, 2024 19:45:33 GMT
I'll let you know tomorrow. Definitely isn't tonight though. Heard anything else Lee?
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 19:46:06 GMT
Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what? weren’t you saying earlier in the window you could understand Cundle as a loan but not as a permanent 🤔 Two sticking plasters instead of one great.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2024 19:46:16 GMT
Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what? weren’t you saying earlier in the window you could understand Cundle as a loan but not as a permanent 🤔 Before we signed Moran. Cundle makes no sense at all now. But if it was a permanent at least you can see succession planning. But I think that’s mad because you’d want Cundle playing 75% of the time and Moran on the bench. But Moran looks a much better player.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 29, 2024 19:47:25 GMT
I'll let you know tomorrow. Definitely isn't tonight though. Interesting So Japanese guy, Cundle, Striker AND a Right back all still a possibility for tomorrow you reckon?
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 29, 2024 19:47:41 GMT
Has anybody noticed the forward positions starting to get a bit cluttered, too?
Let's say we got al-Hamadi and Ennis leaves. I know it's a long season, but we then have the following options:
LW: Junho, Gallagher, Gooch, Koumas ST: Koumas, Mmaee, Gallagher, al-Hamadi, Tezgel RW: Manhoef, Koumas, Gooch
There are a lot of names to keep happy there, even if Junho is treated as an attacking midfielder instead (which moves him into another area that's getting rather crowded).
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 19:47:47 GMT
Nicolas Cage vs John Travolta is nothing compared to this. Bacon vs Bayern is the ultimate Face/Off. Can I be someone else I'm not much for either of them.
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 29, 2024 19:47:55 GMT
Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what? Well if we’re loaning players to have ‘first dibs’ over our homegrown players that are warranting their place, more so than a loan player. That’s naivety. Whilst I agree with some points you make, I would still like to think that we’re not stupid enough to play loan players over players that are coming through our academy and shining. It is Stoke after all, so who knows.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2024 19:49:12 GMT
Has anybody noticed the forward positions starting to get a bit cluttered, too? Let's say we got al-Hamadi and Ennis leaves. I know it's a long season, but we then have the following options: LW: Junho, Gallagher, Gooch, Koumas ST: Koumas, Mmaee, Gallagher, al-Hamadi, Tezgel RW: Manhoef, Koumas, Gooch There are a lot of names to keep happy there, even if Junho is treated as an attacking midfielder instead (which moves him into another area that's getting rather crowded). Yeah it’s getting a bit ridiculous. And I’d look at that and say we’re a bit light on the right 🤣
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 19:50:28 GMT
Has anybody noticed the forward positions starting to get a bit cluttered, too? Let's say we got al-Hamadi and Ennis leaves. I know it's a long season, but we then have the following options: LW: Junho, Gallagher, Gooch, Koumas ST: Koumas, Mmaee, Gallagher, al-Hamadi, Tezgel RW: Manhoef, Koumas, Gooch There are a lot of names to keep happy there, even if Junho is treated as an attacking midfielder instead (which moves him into another area that's getting rather crowded). Forget Gooch, Mmaee and Tezgel and it all looks very reasonable are you sure you haven't just cluttered it with cluttered thinking?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2024 19:50:59 GMT
Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what? Well if we’re loaning players to have ‘first dibs’ over our homegrown players that are warranting their place, more so than a loan player. That’s naivety. Whilst I agree with some points you make, I would still like to think that we’re not stupid enough to play loan players over players that are coming through our academy and shining. It is Stoke after all, so who knows. But we have done: Hell we’ve played Laurent and Baker over Sidibe who we were tying to push out. And I don’t think we were putting them in the shop window before anyone suggests that. It’s exactly the same thing. Not trusting the kid even though he’s clearly better than both already.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 19:52:37 GMT
Because it’s not how it works at all. It’s how it should work but the loan player will get first dibs on game time. Cundle is a manager favourite. And maybe another loan (hope not as it makes it even more pointless). Burger a more senior pro. The fact Sidibe has already been consigned to just cup duties is pathetic when we’ve had idiots like Laurent getting the game time and for what? Well if we’re loaning players to have ‘first dibs’ over our homegrown players that are warranting their place, more so than a loan player. That’s naivety. Whilst I agree with some points you make, I would still like to think that we’re not stupid enough to play loan players over players that are coming through our academy and shining. It is Stoke after all, so who knows. Apart from the fact they don't see Sidibe as an advanced midfielder that's why they keep playing him as a deep lying midfielder.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 29, 2024 19:52:45 GMT
Nicolas Cage vs John Travolta is nothing compared to this. Bacon vs Bayern is the ultimate Face/Off. Nicolas Caged Animal vs John Revolting
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 29, 2024 20:02:44 GMT
Nicolas Cage vs John Travolta is nothing compared to this. Bacon vs Bayern is the ultimate Face/Off. Nicolas Caged Animal vs John Revolting Get slogger back ref it. Stans statue 7pm before the hull game. Both wearing mankinis, smothered in bacon fat and with a party blower up their arses. First one reach maximum extension and blow loses ( and I don’t mean the party blowers)
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 29, 2024 20:05:31 GMT
Doesn't it depend on how good the new signings turn out to be? If we get lucky with how they develop then you could see us ending the season like this: Johansson Junior-Phillips-Gibson-Bocat Burger-Lawal-Moran Manhoef-Koumas-Bae Of course if it turns out a bunch of them can't cut it you'll be right and we'll be scrambling again! But in that case maybe one of the young defenders, Lawal or Tezgel will turn out to be great. Fixed that team for you! That's before any new star striker arrives, leaving Koumas to rotate with Milly and Junho, plus Gallagher, Tezgel and Mmaee as back-up forwards. Assuming that team looks good then wouldn't we need to replace the loanees for next season? I was just responding to the post before and trying to work out if we'd need a full rebuild with 10 new signings next summer. I'm hopeful we don't.
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Post by standbutler1 on Aug 29, 2024 20:05:45 GMT
Nicolas Caged Animal vs John Revolting Get slogger back ref it. Stans statue 7pm before the hull game. Both wearing mankinis, smothered in bacon fat and with a party blower up their arses. First one reach maximum extension and blow loses ( and I don’t mean the party blowers) I don't want to see that
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 29, 2024 20:08:17 GMT
I pray it doesn’t go down the usual deadline day route.
0900 - Linked to 5 1100 - Nothing yet 1500 - few deals fall through 2000 - Plan D 2300 - Haks type last min deal
Hope I’m wrong but they never seem to come to fruition
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 29, 2024 20:12:12 GMT
Well if we’re loaning players to have ‘first dibs’ over our homegrown players that are warranting their place, more so than a loan player. That’s naivety. Whilst I agree with some points you make, I would still like to think that we’re not stupid enough to play loan players over players that are coming through our academy and shining. It is Stoke after all, so who knows. But we have done: Hell we’ve played Laurent and Baker over Sidibe who we were tying to push out. And I don’t think we were putting them in the shop window before anyone suggests that. It’s exactly the same thing. Not trusting the kid even though he’s clearly better than both already. I don't agree with playing loanees over our own kids if they are no better, but equally Sol is still only 17. We will need to pace his development, not overplay him and let him grow into his body and get accustomed to regular first team football. Then there are injuries, suspensions and even loss of form (youngsters can undergo dips, and their progress is not always linear). It is a long season and we need a squad. Clearing out DJ, Laurent and Baker is a big deal, and paves the way for all of our younger midfielders to get more game time going forward. Lawal, Burger, Moran, with Sidibe, Thompson (and AN Other?), with Pearson to come back, is not excessive. There is only one loanee there and Sol does not really play in his position.
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