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Post by gaznandi on Jul 18, 2024 17:14:46 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 18, 2024 17:15:19 GMT
Hope this is a joke 🤣🤣 if not you’re absolutely clueless. he’s in the last year of his contract and has been expelled from the first team. He’d go for around 3millon absoloute max. If it weren't for his contract situation I'd agree with the poster that he would be unattainable. When I learned of his situation I changed my view and thought he would be a very good target for us. I still doubt you could get him for any less than about £5/6M. £3M absolute max for a player that's top scored for them the past two seasons at 21 when they've reportedly paid £2.5M for a 20 year old who's hardly scored. If he's not going to sign a contract for them which seems to be the case then they'll have to take what they can or risk loosing him for nothing at the end of the season. It will bring the price down.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 18, 2024 17:19:51 GMT
I find it so odd how these transfers can work.
Conway wants out and is obviously a good catch for most championship clubs. Most are after a striker and there aren’t too many about which are affordable.
Then you see in the article that there are no bids in for him yet. Is it purely a case of agents negotiating in the background and no bids go in until personal terms get sorted with agents?
In light of our ‘late bid’ for Armstrong, i find the whole process baffling. Just one big game of chess between agents and clubs.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 17:22:30 GMT
If it weren't for his contract situation I'd agree with the poster that he would be unattainable. When I learned of his situation I changed my view and thought he would be a very good target for us. I still doubt you could get him for any less than about £5/6M. £3M absolute max for a player that's top scored for them the past two seasons at 21 when they've reportedly paid £2.5M for a 20 year old who's hardly scored. Exactly, yet we have some demanding 15M+ for Bae Junho. You have to laugh. Junho is under contract until 2027, setting a high asking price is not blocking the players career Southampton for example have been doing it for years and by and large getting what they demand. Tommy Conway 2025, Rangers who are said to be the main interested party could have him for next to nothing in less than a year. It's not the same game for English clubs. We were ordered to pay a fee rising to £1.75M for Campbell years ago, he'd played no senior games. Conway has 2 years as top scorer for his club in the championship I've no idea what the level of compensation would be set but I'd imagine it would be in multiples of Campbell's
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Jul 18, 2024 17:23:02 GMT
I'm quite surprised he didn't have a move finalised quickly. If one player needs a good pre-season for fitness it's definately Ty. I can see him at the baggies checking that list, I hope not. Prefer he went to Rangers.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 17:23:53 GMT
If it weren't for his contract situation I'd agree with the poster that he would be unattainable. When I learned of his situation I changed my view and thought he would be a very good target for us. I still doubt you could get him for any less than about £5/6M. £3M absolute max for a player that's top scored for them the past two seasons at 21 when they've reportedly paid £2.5M for a 20 year old who's hardly scored. If he's not going to sign a contract for them which seems to be the case then they'll have to take what they can or risk loosing him for nothing at the end of the season. It will bring the price down. He won't be free even at the end of the season as he's under 24. That said if he goes abroad which includes Scotland it won't be very much.
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Post by lordb on Jul 18, 2024 17:24:53 GMT
I find it so odd how these transfers can work. Conway wants out and is obviously a good catch for most championship clubs. Most are after a striker and there aren’t too many about which are affordable. Then you see in the article that there are no bids in for him yet. Is it purely a case of agents negotiating in the background and no bids go in until personal terms get sorted with agents? In light of our ‘late bid’ for Armstrong, i find the whole process baffling. Just one big game of chess between agents and clubs. It's probably a case of him tell Bristol City he wants to see his contract out so he can go to Celtic or Rangers for £300k next summer meaning he can demand a mass, £ms, signing on fee Bristol City now trying to force him out now so they get a reasonable fee He's nothing special, steady scorer suits a team that plays direct Can only really think of Sheffield Wednesday who play that way atm
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Post by lordb on Jul 18, 2024 17:25:15 GMT
If he's not going to sign a contract for them which seems to be the case then they'll have to take what they can or risk loosing him for nothing at the end of the season. It will bring the price down. He won't be free even at the end of the season as he's under 24. That said if he goes abroad which includes Scotland it won't be very much. £300k
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Post by Goonie on Jul 18, 2024 17:25:44 GMT
Bosun Lawal
Could he be a Titanic signing? ⛴️ Does he have hidden depths? 🏔️ Would he be made captain? ⛵ Is he for sail?⚓
So many questions I feel all at sea 🌊
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 18, 2024 17:27:33 GMT
I'm quite surprised he didn't have a move finalised quickly. If one player needs a good pre-season for fitness it's definately Ty. I can see him at the baggies checking that list, I hope not. Prefer he went to Rangers. I guess with all that’s been going on around his poor dad it’s been the last thing on his mind.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 17:28:22 GMT
I find it so odd how these transfers can work. Conway wants out and is obviously a good catch for most championship clubs. Most are after a striker and there aren’t too many about which are affordable. Then you see in the article that there are no bids in for him yet. Is it purely a case of agents negotiating in the background and no bids go in until personal terms get sorted with agents? In light of our ‘late bid’ for Armstrong, i find the whole process baffling. Just one big game of chess between agents and clubs. That's why I find it completely bizarre that our head of recruitment is said to have a Paddy if deals are leaked and has gone as far as pulling out of a deal because of it. It's just not a credible or realistic stance, the agents are doing their job if they weren't doing this they wouldn't be very good agents.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 17:29:45 GMT
He won't be free even at the end of the season as he's under 24. That said if he goes abroad which includes Scotland it won't be very much. £300k Yes but not to any English club.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 18, 2024 17:33:37 GMT
If he's not going to sign a contract for them which seems to be the case then they'll have to take what they can or risk loosing him for nothing at the end of the season. It will bring the price down. He won't be free even at the end of the season as he's under 24. That said if he goes abroad which includes Scotland it won't be very much. Fair enough mate I didn't realise that. He would still be significantly cheaper than the 5-6 million being talked about though wouldn't he in that scenario.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 18, 2024 17:43:43 GMT
I find it so odd how these transfers can work. Conway wants out and is obviously a good catch for most championship clubs. Most are after a striker and there aren’t too many about which are affordable. Then you see in the article that there are no bids in for him yet. Is it purely a case of agents negotiating in the background and no bids go in until personal terms get sorted with agents? In light of our ‘late bid’ for Armstrong, i find the whole process baffling. Just one big game of chess between agents and clubs. It's probably a case of him tell Bristol City he wants to see his contract out so he can go to Celtic or Rangers for £300k next summer meaning he can demand a mass, £ms, signing on fee Bristol City now trying to force him out now so they get a reasonable fee He's nothing special, steady scorer suits a team that plays direct Can only really think of Sheffield Wednesday who play that way atm Yeah perhaps so. Definitely feels like he’s got something in the pipeline already in place. I still feel like we should have a decent amount of cash available with some top end wages spare for the right striker. I don’t really fancy going down the loan route, hanging on close to deadline day for whatever scraps are about.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 18, 2024 17:46:43 GMT
I find it so odd how these transfers can work. Conway wants out and is obviously a good catch for most championship clubs. Most are after a striker and there aren’t too many about which are affordable. Then you see in the article that there are no bids in for him yet. Is it purely a case of agents negotiating in the background and no bids go in until personal terms get sorted with agents? In light of our ‘late bid’ for Armstrong, i find the whole process baffling. Just one big game of chess between agents and clubs. It's probably a case of him tell Bristol City he wants to see his contract out so he can go to Celtic or Rangers for £300k next summer meaning he can demand a mass, £ms, signing on fee Bristol City now trying to force him out now so they get a reasonable fee He's nothing special, steady scorer suits a team that plays direct Can only really think of Sheffield Wednesday who play that way atm This. He works hard, is mobile, but not fast, challenges for headers, but isn’t good at them, technical enough, but not that technical. He’s either an all rounder or a jack of all trades. He’s young though, so potential to be developed. He’s not the type of player we need.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:00:50 GMT
He won't be free even at the end of the season as he's under 24. That said if he goes abroad which includes Scotland it won't be very much. Fair enough mate I didn't realise that. He would still be significantly cheaper than the 5-6 million being talked about though wouldn't he in that scenario. Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:03:11 GMT
It's probably a case of him tell Bristol City he wants to see his contract out so he can go to Celtic or Rangers for £300k next summer meaning he can demand a mass, £ms, signing on fee Bristol City now trying to force him out now so they get a reasonable fee He's nothing special, steady scorer suits a team that plays direct Can only really think of Sheffield Wednesday who play that way atm This. He works hard, is mobile, but not fast, challenges for headers, but isn’t good at them, technical enough, but not that technical. He’s either an all rounder or a jack of all trades. He’s young though, so potential to be developed. He’s not the type of player we need. He's a young lead the line mobile targetman type CF. Seems exactly what we've needed for 2 or 3 years.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 18, 2024 18:03:34 GMT
Fair enough mate I didn't realise that. He would still be significantly cheaper than the 5-6 million being talked about though wouldn't he in that scenario. Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. If the player doesn't want to stay there then they are going to have to accept less than they would like for him was the point I was making mate. Ultimately nowadays the players hold the cards.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:06:58 GMT
It's probably a case of him tell Bristol City he wants to see his contract out so he can go to Celtic or Rangers for £300k next summer meaning he can demand a mass, £ms, signing on fee Bristol City now trying to force him out now so they get a reasonable fee He's nothing special, steady scorer suits a team that plays direct Can only really think of Sheffield Wednesday who play that way atm Yeah perhaps so. Definitely feels like he’s got something in the pipeline already in place. I still feel like we should have a decent amount of cash available with some top end wages spare for the right striker. I don’t really fancy going down the loan route, hanging on close to deadline day for whatever scraps are about. I think we'll do both personally. We need a central striker of our own for our base squad. Then a loan for more of a flair type forward who can play across the front line. Then Cundle or similar high intensity AM with output/end product.
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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 18, 2024 18:09:28 GMT
Fair enough mate I didn't realise that. He would still be significantly cheaper than the 5-6 million being talked about though wouldn't he in that scenario. Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. Defenitely wouldnt be anywhere near 5/6 mil lol.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:12:06 GMT
Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. If the player doesn't want to stay there then they are going to have to accept less than they would like for him was the point I was making mate. Ultimately nowadays the players hold the cards. Pretty much but a bit less so when they're under 24 as there isn't that threat of getting absolutely nothing for them which will encourage a club to stand a bit firmer. It's probably a waste of a phone call but I think we should have at least enquired. (we might have for all I know)
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 18, 2024 18:12:43 GMT
Fair enough mate I didn't realise that. He would still be significantly cheaper than the 5-6 million being talked about though wouldn't he in that scenario. Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. Don't think it'd be a 'fair' fee they'd get if he went to an English team next summer. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-tommy-conway-celtic-wolves-9336376They seem to think any compensation fee would be "approaching 7 figures" if he went to an English team - and only the standard 300k if he went to Scotland Hence the pressure to get whatever they can this summer. And it doesn't sound like the interest they were expecting when the above article was written in their local paper in June has yet materialised.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:13:39 GMT
Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. Defenitely wouldnt be anywhere near 5/6 mil lol. We can only come back to it when it's happened but you've made a definite guess.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 18, 2024 18:14:15 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:17:32 GMT
Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. Don't think it'd be a 'fair' fee they'd get if he went to an English team next summer. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-tommy-conway-celtic-wolves-9336376They seem to think any compensation fee would be "approaching 7 figures" if he went to an English team - and only the standard 300k if he went to Scotland Hence the pressure to get whatever they can this summer. And it doesn't sound like the interest they were expecting when the above article was written in their local paper in June has yet materialised. I just don't get that, it's exactly the same process that ordered us to pay a fee rising to £1.75M for Campbell years ago who'd never played a senior game. Yet were talking about a fee of less than a mill for a 21 year old who's top scored in the championship for his club in consecutive seasons and been called up for the full Scotland squad. Bizarre.
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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 18, 2024 18:21:40 GMT
Don't think it'd be a 'fair' fee they'd get if he went to an English team next summer. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-tommy-conway-celtic-wolves-9336376They seem to think any compensation fee would be "approaching 7 figures" if he went to an English team - and only the standard 300k if he went to Scotland Hence the pressure to get whatever they can this summer. And it doesn't sound like the interest they were expecting when the above article was written in their local paper in June has yet materialised. I just don't get that, it's exactly the same process that ordered us to pay a fee rising to £1.75M for Campbell years ago who'd never played a senior game. Yet were talking about a fee of less than a mill for a 21 year old who's top scored in the championship for his club in consecutive seasons and been called up for the full Scotland squad. Bizarre. Mate loads of Bristol City fans are saying they’d be really happy with anything near 2.5-3m for him. And that Theyd be happy to swap him for Scott Twine from Burnley . I think you’re rating him too highly.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 18, 2024 18:23:21 GMT
This. He works hard, is mobile, but not fast, challenges for headers, but isn’t good at them, technical enough, but not that technical. He’s either an all rounder or a jack of all trades. He’s young though, so potential to be developed. He’s not the type of player we need. He's a young lead the line mobile targetman type CF. Seems exactly what we've needed for 2 or 3 years. You’ve got a bit of a crush on him is all. He’s not bad don’t get me wrong and some team may spend that amount on him or more but so far he’s not demonstrating anything to suggest he will reach a higher league and perform well. Last year he went backwards as a player and in 39 league games, scored 5 penalties from 10 goals. Fbref shows how he doesn’t threaten, xg is in bottom 11%, bottom 1/4 for xa, bottom 1% for winning headers. He’s benefited massively from Pearson blooding a lot of youngsters and Bristol City until recently playing direct football so he got chances where he had loads of space. Surely we don’t need that? If Bristol city get good money for him it only shows how good they are with negotiations.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 18, 2024 18:23:39 GMT
Yeah lordb is saying it's £300k, I just knew it was a lowish flat compensation fee irrespective of the player involved. Basically if an English club want him they'll have to pay the £5/6M. I think he'd be one of the best long term signings we could make but obviously not exciting enough for some. I've not heard of many 21 year olds top scoring for their club in the championship in consecutive seasons. Don't think it'd be a 'fair' fee they'd get if he went to an English team next summer. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-tommy-conway-celtic-wolves-9336376They seem to think any compensation fee would be "approaching 7 figures" if he went to an English team - and only the standard 300k if he went to Scotland Hence the pressure to get whatever they can this summer. And it doesn't sound like the interest they were expecting when the above article was written in their local paper in June has yet materialised. I see Jebbison was settled outside of tribunal between Bournemouth and Sheff Utd for 1.5m if that gives any sort of guide. How Conway would be viewed against him I’ve got no idea. Wouldn’t be amazed to see Conway go for 3-5m this summer in that basis. I haven’t got a clue though. Don’t know how much interest he would have in making a sideways move from Bristol to someone like us?
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Post by stokefanone on Jul 18, 2024 18:24:47 GMT
It was reported as £3m Your link suggests £10m Which one is correct? Both I suppose. The devil is in the detail. There'll be a big add on if Soton avoid relegation. Several appearance related add ons and a significant sell on percentage. From what I've read and seen on TV about McAnthony I thought it unlikely he'd caved in so dramatically so thought there'd be more to it than the initially reported fee. Knowing this post, neither!
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Post by baconburger on Jul 18, 2024 18:25:00 GMT
I just don't get that, it's exactly the same process that ordered us to pay a fee rising to £1.75M for Campbell years ago who'd never played a senior game. Yet were talking about a fee of less than a mill for a 21 year old who's top scored in the championship for his club in consecutive seasons and been called up for the full Scotland squad. Bizarre. Mate loads of Bristol City fans are saying they’d be really happy with anything near 2.5-3m for him. And that Theyd be happy to swap him for Scott Twine from Burnley . I think you’re rating him too highly. Yeah I mean fancy rating him as being worth a few million less than Ross Stewart, Ellis Simms, Tom Cannon. It's absurd NOT.
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