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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 17, 2024 16:38:27 GMT
I could definitely see Burger going back abroad. He doesn’t seem enamoured with the weather over here! But ultimately he’s left Basel to come here in the hope he was going to make it up to the premier league. Must have been very underwhelming last season. I’ve got no idea obviously but if there is interest in him I can see him wanting to go. If we could get 8 or 9 million we will have effectively doubled our money in a season. I like him a lot but I don’t think he’s going to go on and be sold for mega money at any point. Burger going for 8m is a lot easier to swallow than Jun-Ho as his ceiling is much higher I would say. Fees of 15 million were quoted for Burger a few months ago when Spurs were linked. And it wasn't Stoke fans saying 15 million. I can’t see it but you never know. Fees seem the wrong way round. 15 Jun-Ho, 8 or 9 Burger. I like them both and would be a shame to see either go. But at least getting decent profit on them makes it more palatable.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 17, 2024 16:39:48 GMT
Been told him and Bae have plenty of interest in them. We are in a position where we can tell them to Fuck Off. do it stoke have some ambition nothing do with stoke’s ambition, if a player gets what he thinks is a better offer there’s no use keeping them
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Post by etebojan on Jul 17, 2024 16:42:23 GMT
Interesting thanks Lee, what do you think happens in a scenario where we sell both? apart from the fact that we'd be sitting on around £20 million, who do we bring in?! I guess Cundle would be nailed on, and infact we played without Burger for a run of decent games toward the end of season Only £20M are we only selling one of them? As much as i'd like that to be true, and i'm being conservative obviously you'd think we might have to accept 12-15 for Bae and 8-10 for Burger if they both had their heads turned...but who knows
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 17, 2024 16:42:31 GMT
A bit of fence sitting going on here, understandably now the leaks have dried up.
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Post by PotterLee on Jul 17, 2024 16:42:35 GMT
Been told him and Bae have plenty of interest in them. Interesting thanks Lee, what do you think happens in a scenario where we sell both? apart from the fact that we'd be sitting on around £20 million, who do we bring in?! I guess Cundle would be nailed on, and infact we played without Burger for a run of decent games toward the end of season It's a nice problem have mate, not that I'd want any of them to go. I think Cundle is nailed on but we'll see.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 16:43:56 GMT
We are in a position where we can tell them to Fuck Off. do it stoke have some ambition nothing do with stoke’s ambition, if a player gets what he thinks is a better offer there’s no use keeping them We’re in a strong contractual position with both. Naming your price is not blocking their career. If the buying club wants them enough they’ll meet our price or at least get very close. Refusing point blank I think is foolish and will have lasting consequences not just with the players in question.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 16:45:08 GMT
Interesting thanks Lee, what do you think happens in a scenario where we sell both? apart from the fact that we'd be sitting on around £20 million, who do we bring in?! I guess Cundle would be nailed on, and infact we played without Burger for a run of decent games toward the end of season It's a nice problem have mate, not that I'd want any of them to go. I think Cundle is nailed on but we'll see. As I said on the Bae thread..I don't want him go and same for Burger but IF they do then i'd hope we do it in enough time to give ourselves chance to spend the cash. Too many times we sold playere 1 or 2 days before a window then we been stuck
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 16:45:47 GMT
Only £20M are we only selling one of them? As much as i'd like that to be true, and i'm being conservative obviously you'd think we might have to accept 12-15 for Bae and 8-10 for Burger if they both had their heads turned...but who knows So we’re going to have to accept a £10/12M profit on Junho and less than £5M on Burger why’s that ?
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Post by hamsta2 on Jul 17, 2024 16:46:56 GMT
If a bid comes in and turns their respective heads they’ll go sooner or later no matter what contract they are on. Money talks ( no Neil Diamond gags please) there’ll be a song and a dance and off they’ll walk. That’s the reality like it or not.
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Post by etebojan on Jul 17, 2024 16:52:14 GMT
As much as i'd like that to be true, and i'm being conservative obviously you'd think we might have to accept 12-15 for Bae and 8-10 for Burger if they both had their heads turned...but who knows So we’re going to have to accept a £10/12M profit on Junho and less than £5M on Burger why’s that ? I hope not, what would you be realistically holding out for do you think?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 16:59:02 GMT
So we’re going to have to accept a £10/12M profit on Junho and less than £5M on Burger why’s that ? I hope not, what would you be realistically holding out for do you think? I wouldn't even discuss either for less than £15M a piece base price with significant add ons. Publicly we should be saying £20M if there is genuine interest, put up or shut up McAnthony style. Never say never but use the price tag to try and put clubs off.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 17, 2024 19:08:40 GMT
A lot of people will have renewed season cards this season on the basis of watching Bae. Very disappointing if he goes. Need to have some biggish name lined up to come in.
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 19:39:16 GMT
I hope not, what would you be realistically holding out for do you think? I wouldn't even discuss either for less than £15M a piece base price with significant add ons. Publicly we should be saying £20M if there is genuine interest, put up or shut up McAnthony style. Never say never but use the price tag to try and put clubs off. How much did Posh get for Edwards again?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 20:43:22 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 20:45:07 GMT
Hmm Was reported as massively lower than that
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 20:48:54 GMT
Hmm Was reported as massively lower than that 3 million
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 20:49:27 GMT
Hmm Was reported as massively lower than that 4M striker Ryan Mmaee. Headlines can be very misleading.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 20:50:10 GMT
Hmm Was reported as massively lower than that 3 million Phone the paper tell them they're £7M out.
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 20:51:27 GMT
Hmm Was reported as massively lower than that 3 million So which is it £3m or £10m? Football transfers are very murky things Undisclosed fee just doesn't sit right Something to go in the new Football Regulators in-tray
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 20:51:45 GMT
Hmm Was reported as massively lower than that 4M striker Ryan Mmaee. Headlines can be very misleading. Indeed
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 20:53:29 GMT
So which is it £3m or £10m? Football transfers are very murky things Undisclosed fee just doesn't sit right Something to go in the new Football Regulators in-tray Should imagine it's £3M up front with a lot of big add ons.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 20:56:59 GMT
Phone the paper tell them they're £7M out. That bacon guy is a right nugget searching for information instead of believing every snippet he hears.
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 20:58:47 GMT
Phone the paper tell them they're £7M out. That bacon guy is a right nugget searching for information instead of believing every snippet he hears. It was reported as £3m Your link suggests £10m Which one is correct?
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 17, 2024 20:58:50 GMT
Just having a look at this Bosun Lawal that we have been linked with.
Glowing reports from Fleetwood and most fans from teams who came up against him last season. But Rodger’s has basically called him and one other player out at Celtic in the press yesterday. Saying that they don’t run enough and they’ve got to be much much better. Seems a strange way to deal with a youngster on the back of an impressive first season out on loan. Suggests that he’s definitely planning on getting rid to me.
If we do have a genuine interest in him you would think Walters would get the full lowdown on him from Charlie Adam. We may well need to move Laurent, Johnson or Baker on first though.
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 20:59:41 GMT
So which is it £3m or £10m? Football transfers are very murky things Undisclosed fee just doesn't sit right Something to go in the new Football Regulators in-tray Should imagine it's £3M up front with a lot of big add ons. Probably but we shouldn't have to imagine, should be in public domain along with how much the agent is getting paid
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2024 21:01:02 GMT
Just having a look at this Bosun Lawal that we have been linked with. Glowing reports from Fleetwood and most fans from teams who came up against him last season. But Rodger’s has basically called him and one other player out at Celtic in the press yesterday. Saying that they don’t run enough and they’ve got to be much much better. Seems a strange way to deal with a youngster on the back of an impressive first season out on loan. Suggests that he’s definitely planning on getting rid to me. If we do have a genuine interest in him you would think Walters would get the full lowdown on him from Charlie Adam. We may well need to move Laurent, Johnson or Baker on first though. Given he plays both midfield and centre back that will do nicely Lots of noise re Laurent moving
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 17, 2024 21:02:11 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 21:04:37 GMT
That bacon guy is a right nugget searching for information instead of believing every snippet he hears. It was reported as £3m Your link suggests £10m Which one is correct? Both I suppose. The devil is in the detail. There'll be a big add on if Soton avoid relegation. Several appearance related add ons and a significant sell on percentage. From what I've read and seen on TV about McAnthony I thought it unlikely he'd caved in so dramatically so thought there'd be more to it than the initially reported fee.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 21:06:02 GMT
Just having a look at this Bosun Lawal that we have been linked with. Glowing reports from Fleetwood and most fans from teams who came up against him last season. But Rodger’s has basically called him and one other player out at Celtic in the press yesterday. Saying that they don’t run enough and they’ve got to be much much better. Seems a strange way to deal with a youngster on the back of an impressive first season out on loan. Suggests that he’s definitely planning on getting rid to me. If we do have a genuine interest in him you would think Walters would get the full lowdown on him from Charlie Adam. We may well need to move Laurent, Johnson or Baker on first though. Given he plays both midfield and centre back that will do nicely Lots of noise re Laurent moving Not involved tonight. Unless he was in disguise as Nathan Baker.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 17, 2024 21:10:29 GMT
Try reading the whole article. David Robinson suggested: "At £3million he’s a bargain. I’m assuming there is some very big add-ons to this fee." “I’m happy with the fee because I am confident we will do fantastically well financially as Ronnie’s career develops.” Sound like £3M to you?????
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