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Post by Han Solo on Jul 16, 2024 6:54:40 GMT
I think onlooker makes a good point, we are trying to slimline our squad according to Walters and Schuey, we can't keep stockpiling players. As much as it is exciting with rumours and signing links, there is only so many squad positions to still fill. I agree certainly in respect to CM not so sure though about strikers where we only have Ennis and Mmae who’s a senior player having let Campbell go along with Gayle and Wesley. It has to be quality over quantity but we don’t want to have a similar issue up front to what we did last year at LB and CB when we had an injury or 2.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 16, 2024 6:57:09 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 16, 2024 7:03:11 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first. shifting out the players we don’t want will be the hardest part of the window , can’t see them being in much of a demand tbh
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 7:26:58 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first. Centre half possibly but not a striker given we have two young lads that the manager is taking a long look at this summer on top of the current two options. That's 4 players for 1 spot. Even with centre half you could argue we have young Dixon in the mix too. Jon Walters has spoken at length about getting the youngsters in and around the squad for a serious look. He's the Technical Director and he sets the tone of the club.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 7:35:06 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first. Centre half possibly but not a striker given we have two young lads that the manager is taking a long look at this summer on top of the current two options. That's 4 players for 1 spot. Even with centre half you could argue we have young Dixon in the mix too. Jon Walters has spoken at length about getting the youngsters in and around the squad for a serious look. He's the Technical Director and he sets the tone of the club. I don’t know whether you’re trying to temper your own expectations or what but it’s clear we need players in in forward position regardless of moving players on. It will be more towards alarming than disappointing if we don’t do that.
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Post by etebojan on Jul 16, 2024 7:43:59 GMT
Centre half possibly but not a striker given we have two young lads that the manager is taking a long look at this summer on top of the current two options. That's 4 players for 1 spot. Even with centre half you could argue we have young Dixon in the mix too. Jon Walters has spoken at length about getting the youngsters in and around the squad for a serious look. He's the Technical Director and he sets the tone of the club. I don’t know whether you’re trying to temper your own expectations or what but it’s clear we need players in in forward position regardless of moving players on. It will be more towards alarming than disappointing if we don’t do that. 100% We've currently got: Ennis Mmaee recovering from injury Lowe who should go on loan, he's not ready yet for me Tezgel should be around the first team but won't be a starter We need two new strikers
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Post by bolders on Jul 16, 2024 7:44:12 GMT
U21’s dont have to be registered for the squad so we have technically 2 spots for strikers
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Post by st3mark on Jul 16, 2024 7:47:13 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first. I'd argue Haksabanovic, Campbell and Wesley alone will all need replacing as gaps in the squad. Plus a CB.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 7:53:02 GMT
Centre half possibly but not a striker given we have two young lads that the manager is taking a long look at this summer on top of the current two options. That's 4 players for 1 spot. Even with centre half you could argue we have young Dixon in the mix too. Jon Walters has spoken at length about getting the youngsters in and around the squad for a serious look. He's the Technical Director and he sets the tone of the club. I don’t know whether you’re trying to temper your own expectations or what but it’s clear we need players in in forward position regardless of moving players on. It will be more towards alarming than disappointing if we don’t do that. I'm just going off from what Walters said at the back end of last season about whittling the squad down from last season and creating a pathway for young players. As it stands our squad is at 25 full time professionals. It seems that a lot of fans haven't read or understood what he said in the Sentinel some time ago. If I've read it right I'd say to replace Ennis and Mmaee we'd have to move both of them on first, rather than stockpile warm bodies and that's after a long look at both Lowe and Tezgel. Could be wrong though, couldn't I?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 16, 2024 7:57:38 GMT
What's worrying is FMs 24/7 internet trawl isn't fetching up anything! Even a Turkish loan would be something, even if it's only to dismiss it out of hand
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 7:58:33 GMT
I don’t know whether you’re trying to temper your own expectations or what but it’s clear we need players in in forward position regardless of moving players on. It will be more towards alarming than disappointing if we don’t do that. 100% We've currently got: Ennis Mmaee recovering from injury Lowe who should go on loan, he's not ready yet for me Tezgel should be around the first team but won't be a starter We need two new strikers Agree apart from if Tezgel isn’t getting starts he should go out on loan. Sitting on the bench will do nothing for his development. He needs to be playing lots of minutes and imo scoring regularly in senior football before being considered a viable option. There’s quite a bit of lowering expectations going on. I don’t believe it should be, we’re just saying what we need and if they fail to get it I’ll be very disappointed/angry. I don’t believe expectations should be being shifted to avoid that response it’s perfectly reasonable.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 16, 2024 7:59:21 GMT
What's worrying is FMs 24/7 internet trawl isn't fetching up anything! Even a Turkish loan would be something, even if it's only to dismiss it out of hand It’s definitely as quiet as I remember it with 3 weeks to go before the season starts!
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 16, 2024 7:59:33 GMT
I don’t know whether you’re trying to temper your own expectations or what but it’s clear we need players in in forward position regardless of moving players on. It will be more towards alarming than disappointing if we don’t do that. I'm just going off from what Walters said at the back end of last season about whittling the squad down from last season and creating a pathway for young players. As it stands our squad is at 25 full time professionals. It seems that a lot of fans haven't read or understood what he said in the Sentinel some time ago. If I've read it right I'd say to replace Ennis and Mmaee we'd have to move both of them on first, rather than stockpile warm bodies and that's after a long look at both Lowe and Tezgel. Could be wrong though, couldn't I? There's definitely room for a striker, you need at least 3 we currently have two, of which one is injured and one is Ennis. We've let 3 go since January, so there's definitely room for one more at least. Not sure if you've counted McCarron in that 25 but he's currently on trial with Northampton and hasn't travelled to Cork, so if you have counted him, you probably safely strike him off the list now.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 8:02:13 GMT
I don’t know whether you’re trying to temper your own expectations or what but it’s clear we need players in in forward position regardless of moving players on. It will be more towards alarming than disappointing if we don’t do that. I'm just going off from what Walters said at the back end of last season about whittling the squad down from last season and creating a pathway for young players. As it stands our squad is at 25 full time professionals. It seems that a lot of fans haven't read or understood what he said in the Sentinel some time ago. If I've read it right I'd say to replace Ennis and Mmaee we'd have to move both of them on first, rather than stockpile warm bodies and that's after a long look at both Lowe and Tezgel. Could be wrong though, couldn't I? I think it’s clear we have too many players in certain positions but definitely not forwards. Tbh I just can’t see the argument for either Tezgel or Lowe staying in house this season. We need two forwards urgently.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 16, 2024 8:03:59 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first. Centre half possibly but not a striker given we have two young lads that the manager is taking a long look at this summer on top of the current two options. That's 4 players for 1 spot. Even with centre half you could argue we have young Dixon in the mix too. Jon Walters has spoken at length about getting the youngsters in and around the squad for a serious look. He's the Technical Director and he sets the tone of the club. Isn’t Dixon 16? Realistically can’t see any 16 year old centre halves playing in championship however good a prospect he maybe. Last year we were really caught out with just 3 centre halves and had to panic sign Clarke. We do not want a repeat of that. Someone like Wiredu who can play two positions and cover it would be fine but we definitely need a 4th option available who can play there comfortably . Strikers wise I would expect at least one of Lowe or Tezgel to go out on loan. If Ennis or Mmaee don’t move on, most likely both of them. We have lost Wesley, Gayle and Campbell from last years squad, 100% we both need and have space for a new striker. Ideally our biggest signing this summer.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 8:12:58 GMT
Centre half possibly but not a striker given we have two young lads that the manager is taking a long look at this summer on top of the current two options. That's 4 players for 1 spot. Even with centre half you could argue we have young Dixon in the mix too. Jon Walters has spoken at length about getting the youngsters in and around the squad for a serious look. He's the Technical Director and he sets the tone of the club. Isn’t Dixon 16? Realistically can’t see any 16 year old centre halves playing in championship however good a prospect he maybe. Last year we were really caught out with just 3 centre halves and had to panic sign Clarke. We do not want a repeat of that. Someone like Wiredu who can play two positions and cover it would be fine but we definitely need a 4th option available who can play there comfortably . Strikers wise I would expect at least one of Lowe or Tezgel to go out on loan. If Ennis or Mmaee don’t move on, most likely both of them. We have lost Wesley, Gayle and Campbell from last years squad, 100% we both need and have space for a new striker. Ideally our biggest signing this summer. We have a number of players who’ve played games at CB, there’s no point in signing CB’s unless they’re of a quality that the HC would definitely play them ahead of playing a senior pro out of position. I think another of equal or better quality than we already have would be ideal but should not be a priority.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 16, 2024 8:13:21 GMT
I’d be very surprised if at least one of Baker, Johnson or Laurent don’t move on. Which should hopefully give us room for a Cundle type to come in.
Wingers wise if Junho is to play on the left, we have him and Million as nailed on first choice wingers. Leris and Vidigal are perfectly acceptable cheap back up which covers us really. However I am sure I read a while back about Schuey really wanting a pacy winger in the squad as an option. And that would make sense too. I suppose if Junho is going to play a number of games in the middle as well as out wide, it does potentially free up a space for a pacy winger too as Vidigal is ok for cheap cover but you wouldn’t want him starting too many games.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 16, 2024 8:14:06 GMT
I’d say as it stands we have space for a striker and centre half. Anything beyond that will rely on shifting someone out first. shifting out the players we don’t want will be the hardest part of the window , can’t see them being in much of a demand tbh Which makes you wonder what the hell we signed THEM for?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 8:17:18 GMT
I’d be very surprised if at least one of Baker, Johnson or Laurent don’t move on. Which should hopefully give us room for a Cundle type to come in. Wingers wise if Junho is to play on the left, we have him and Million as nailed on first choice wingers. Leris and Vidigal are perfectly acceptable cheap back up which covers us really. However I am sure I read a while back about Schuey really wanting a pacy winger in the squad as an option. And that would make sense too. I suppose if Junho is going to play a number of games in the middle as well as out wide, it does potentially free up a space for a pacy winger too as Vidigal is ok for cheap cover but you wouldn’t want him starting too many games. I’d be slightly more comfortable with Vidigal starting games in an attacking position than Leris. With Vidigal we know it’s at least plausible he might produce some end product, with Leris it’s virtually certain he won’t at any acceptable rate for a forward.
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Post by bolders on Jul 16, 2024 8:19:39 GMT
Squad
Gk Johansson Bonham Fielding
Df Wilmot Rose Gibson
Rb Junior Gooch
Lb Bocat Stevens
Cm Pearson Laurent Johnson Baker Thompson Burger
Rm Million Leris
Lw Junho Vidigal
St Ennis Mmaee
So that’s 22 players Sol,Lowe and Tez don’t have to be registered as they are under 21
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 16, 2024 8:24:08 GMT
Squad Gk Johansson Bonham Fielding Df Wilmot Rose Gibson Rb Junior Gooch Lb Bocat Stevens Cm Pearson Laurent Johnson Baker Thompson Burger Rm Million Leris Lw Junho Vidigal St Ennis Mmaee So that’s 22 players Sol,Lowe and Tez don’t have to be registered as they are under 21 When you see it in full we definitely need some more quality in there. Midfield especially.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2024 8:26:36 GMT
Striker, wide left and CB are still a must. The midfield looks like it'll be addressed when players leave in that position.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 16, 2024 8:29:00 GMT
Squad Gk Johansson Bonham Fielding Df Wilmot Rose Gibson Rb Junior Gooch Lb Bocat Stevens Cm Pearson Laurent Johnson Baker Thompson Burger Rm Million Leris Lw Junho Vidigal St Ennis Mmaee So that’s 22 players Sol,Lowe and Tez don’t have to be registered as they are under 21 Still need, 2x strikers 2x winger And to improve the central midfield, CAM positions.
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Post by cymap on Jul 16, 2024 8:41:31 GMT
Yep and 25 days to go!
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 16, 2024 8:43:47 GMT
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Post by bolders on Jul 16, 2024 8:46:40 GMT
1 x CB 1 x Cam 1 x Striker
If no one leaves
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 8:50:07 GMT
Squad Gk Johansson Bonham Fielding Df Wilmot Rose Gibson Rb Junior Gooch Lb Bocat Stevens Cm Pearson Laurent Johnson Baker Thompson Burger Rm Million Leris Lw Junho Vidigal St Ennis Mmaee So that’s 22 players Sol,Lowe and Tez don’t have to be registered as they are under 21 Far too many CM’s and not one of them with regular goal contributions. You just can’t play the sort of football Schu wants to play without some major surgery in that area too. Second choice RW not good enough either. If Leris stays needs to be a utility player, Gooch too.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 16, 2024 8:53:56 GMT
1 x CB 1 x Cam 1 x Striker If no one leaves Absolute minimum. Sooner forgo the CB and get another attacker. We have a few players who could fill in at CB in an emergency.
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Post by bolders on Jul 16, 2024 8:56:40 GMT
1 x CB 1 x Cam 1 x Striker If no one leaves Absolute minimum. Ideally Baker, Johnson and Laurent move on and we can get Cundle and a ball winning mid
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Post by marshy on Jul 16, 2024 9:02:31 GMT
Squad Gk Johansson Bonham Fielding Df Wilmot Rose Gibson Rb Junior Gooch Lb Bocat Stevens Cm Pearson Laurent Johnson Baker Thompson Burger Rm Million Leris Lw Junho Vidigal St Ennis Mmaee So that’s 22 players Sol,Lowe and Tez don’t have to be registered as they are under 21 Far too many CM’s and not one of them with regular goal contributions. You just can’t play the sort of football Schu wants to play without some major surgery in that area too. Second choice RW not good enough either. If Leris stays needs to be a utility player, Gooch too. We don't have too many CM's, we play a DM and 2 CM's so we need 6. The individuals need changing though I agree. My preference would be Burger and Thompson as the DM options but we're not going to be able to shift Pearson now with his injury so that means moving Burger forward to one of the CM's. As it stands it will look something like: DM Thompson, Pearson Left CM - Burger, Johnson Right CM - Laurent, Baker Ideally this area would need massive changes but I don't think we'll be able to in one window, maybe not even two.
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