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Post by george2again on Jul 15, 2024 14:38:35 GMT
We will absolutely have to offset his wages unless we agree to something like a free transfer. It’s the challenge with buying “established” English players who then go ahead and underperform. I’m actually in a minority I know very concerned if Laurent leaves , our really poor spell under Schumacher coincided with him being out injured post Birmingham away . A short explanation of what you feel he brings to the team?
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Jul 15, 2024 14:46:30 GMT
Why don't the club and bet365 use a simple trick to drive down a players price by sponsoring a player advert etc at the selling club this would not only show profit for selling club but also drive the players price down helping both on ffp and the sponsorship because on bet365 account would not show up on stokes Is there anything stopping us doing this by the fa I seemed to recall ‘inflated’ sponsorship values were part of the legal battle Man City are having right now, and according to this article that is the case: www.90min.com/posts/manchester-city-ffp-news-inflated-value-sponsorship-dealsSeems a bit strange to me, as if Denise hypothetically decided bet365 sponsoring the stadium for a headline catching figure would be beneficial for bet365… other clubs, the FA etc get to decide if that figure is ‘inflated’ or not.
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Post by hughjarse on Jul 15, 2024 14:55:09 GMT
I’m actually in a minority I know very concerned if Laurent leaves , our really poor spell under Schumacher coincided with him being out injured post Birmingham away . A short explanation of what you feel he brings to the team? Are you a school teacher ?
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Post by baconburger on Jul 15, 2024 15:00:30 GMT
Why don't the club and bet365 use a simple trick to drive down a players price by sponsoring a player advert etc at the selling club this would not only show profit for selling club but also drive the players price down helping both on ffp and the sponsorship because on bet365 account would not show up on stokes Is there anything stopping us doing this by the fa I seemed to recall ‘inflated’ sponsorship values were part of the legal battle Man City are having right now, and according to this article that is the case: www.90min.com/posts/manchester-city-ffp-news-inflated-value-sponsorship-dealsSeems a bit strange to me, as if Denise hypothetically decided bet365 sponsoring the stadium for a headline catching figure would be beneficial for bet365… other clubs, the FA etc get to decide if that figure is ‘inflated’ or not. It's complete and utter bollox and absolutely nothing to do with the profit or sustainability of clubs. Clubs are allowed to have an advantage because they have a bigger ground, more populous supporter catchment area and bigger global fanbase but not being owned by rich people who want to waste their money or have other interests sponsor clubs with money they don't believe is merited. It's like some advantages we like but some we don't like. If they want a level playing field just allocate the same set budget to all teams at the same level and see who can do the best with it. Give promoted teams a bonus to help them get competitive.
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Post by questionable on Jul 15, 2024 15:10:34 GMT
We will absolutely have to offset his wages unless we agree to something like a free transfer. It’s the challenge with buying “established” English players who then go ahead and underperform. I’m actually in a minority I know very concerned if Laurent leaves , our really poor spell under Schumacher coincided with him being out injured post Birmingham away . Seriously, with your England post last night and now this, after many, many years on this forum you have the outstanding privilege of being the first poster I’m blocking. Astonishing and btw you need help.
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Post by jm on Jul 15, 2024 15:14:43 GMT
We will absolutely have to offset his wages unless we agree to something like a free transfer. It’s the challenge with buying “established” English players who then go ahead and underperform. I’m actually in a minority I know very concerned if Laurent leaves , our really poor spell under Schumacher coincided with him being out injured post Birmingham away . Agreed - very good player that i'd be keeping
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 15, 2024 15:35:19 GMT
I’m actually in a minority I know very concerned if Laurent leaves , our really poor spell under Schumacher coincided with him being out injured post Birmingham away . Seriously, with your England post last night and now this, after many, many years on this forum you have the outstanding privilege of being the first poster I’m blocking. Astonishing and btw you need help. You are blocking someone because they have a different opinion on a player than you? Seriously? If we all did that it this message board would be like a compendium of Banzai TV's Lady One Question.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 15, 2024 15:41:54 GMT
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Post by etebojan on Jul 15, 2024 15:52:56 GMT
>>> means McBurnie to Stoke could be back on?
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 15, 2024 15:54:37 GMT
Back on🤔. Was it ever actually ever on?.
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Jul 15, 2024 15:58:06 GMT
I seemed to recall ‘inflated’ sponsorship values were part of the legal battle Man City are having right now, and according to this article that is the case: www.90min.com/posts/manchester-city-ffp-news-inflated-value-sponsorship-dealsSeems a bit strange to me, as if Denise hypothetically decided bet365 sponsoring the stadium for a headline catching figure would be beneficial for bet365… other clubs, the FA etc get to decide if that figure is ‘inflated’ or not. It's complete and utter bollox and absolutely nothing to do with the profit or sustainability of clubs. Clubs are allowed to have an advantage because they have a bigger ground, more populous supporter catchment area and bigger global fanbase but not being owned by rich people who want to waste their money or have other interests sponsor clubs with money they don't believe is merited. It's like some advantages we like but some we don't like. If they want a level playing field just allocate the same set budget to all teams at the same level and see who can do the best with it. Give promoted teams a bonus to help them get competitive. I agree. In my opinion, if rules were being brought in to try and limit clubs going bankrupt then it’d be far simpler to have a fan committee for each club that gets to veto a certain set of decisions. I’m not saying that’s perfect by any means, but it’s got to beat the current situation which just seems to be a challenge to see who can come up with the most creative accounting before another loophole needs to be closed.
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Post by etebojan on Jul 15, 2024 15:59:25 GMT
Back on🤔. Was it ever actually ever on?. was it ever actually off?
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jul 15, 2024 16:01:01 GMT
Moore is almost 32. No doubt he will do,a decent job this season for them. But he will be on big wages and they have got him on a contact for 3 years till he’s 34. Glad we have steered clear of this sort of deal personally.
We desperately, desperately need a good striker in ASAP though. I was hoping we might have had one from abroad already lined up like we had with Bocat. All talk seems to be about hanging on for premier league back up,players like Cannon though. But we have been down this route before and often left hanging near deadline day. I know it’s not easy finding someone who’s good enough quality And affordable but we’ve had a long time to line it up….
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Post by cymap on Jul 15, 2024 16:13:26 GMT
Isn't McBurnie out of contract with Sheff Utd ? According to transfermarket his contract ran out with them on July 1st.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Jul 15, 2024 16:16:49 GMT
Isn't McBurnie out of contract with Sheff Utd ? According to transfermarket his contract ran out with them on July 1st. Yes but he’s been training with them and exploring his options until they get taken over, with the signing of Moore who’s similar to him. Hopefully it frees up McBurnie to us
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 15, 2024 16:21:42 GMT
Yep McBurnie is free
A Blades mate of mine has suggested hes Stoke bound (dont know his source) but Id be surprised
Woukd imagine he’ll be after top dollar
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Post by cymap on Jul 15, 2024 16:21:46 GMT
Ahh I see your reasoning now bud. I wouldn't mind him tbh and another alongside.
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Post by premieraj on Jul 15, 2024 16:26:24 GMT
They clearly see Moore the better option…
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Post by baconburger on Jul 15, 2024 16:44:53 GMT
They clearly see Moore the better option… Doesn't mean they're right they've dropped some major bollocks in recent years including dropping £17.5M rising to £20M on McBurnie himself. Doesn't make him a bad signing on a free on decent wages. I'd rather give him a 3 year deal than Moore. Moore would have been great on a 1 year deal with an option in the clubs favour.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jul 15, 2024 16:46:56 GMT
Yep McBurnie is free A Blades mate of mine has suggested hes Stoke bound (dont know his source) but Id be surprised Woukd imagine he’ll be after top dollar Can't imagine Campbell was on a cheap contract. McBurnie won't get a prem move, doubt he'd get a move to someone with parachute payments, I'd like to think with our budget and location we'd have as good a chance as any.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 15, 2024 16:52:28 GMT
Yep McBurnie is free A Blades mate of mine has suggested hes Stoke bound (dont know his source) but Id be surprised Woukd imagine he’ll be after top dollar Might be able to structure it with a big signing on fee to get him to fit into our wage structure. We're going to have to lay some serious money on a striker. He's by no means perfect but at least he's course and distance proven. Not sure I'd be delighted but I wouldn't be too disappointed either.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 15, 2024 16:53:57 GMT
Yep McBurnie is free A Blades mate of mine has suggested hes Stoke bound (dont know his source) but Id be surprised Woukd imagine he’ll be after top dollar Can't imagine Campbell was on a cheap contract. McBurnie won't get a prem move, doubt he'd get a move to someone with parachute payments, I'd like to think with our budget and location we'd have as good a chance as any. Don't forget we've ditched Dwight Gayle and Wesley too who were both on a wedge.
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Post by nonameface on Jul 15, 2024 16:55:04 GMT
That seems like their problem rather than ours. He’s a useful member of the squad, can easily perform at this level, so if they want him they should pay the wages and appropriate transfer fee. It's not like Johnson who is very unlikely to play so we may be open to doing something with wages.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 15, 2024 17:00:48 GMT
Yep McBurnie is free A Blades mate of mine has suggested hes Stoke bound (dont know his source) but Id be surprised Woukd imagine he’ll be after top dollar Can't imagine Campbell was on a cheap contract. McBurnie won't get a prem move, doubt he'd get a move to someone with parachute payments, I'd like to think with our budget and location we'd have as good a chance as any. Yeah its possible I guess. Ioswich probs the only PL team who’d be interested and theyve just snared Delap. Theres always abroad to consider but at champ level we are probably as good as option as any. A big shithousing centre forward could be just the ticket, I wouldnt be against it
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 15, 2024 17:01:30 GMT
That seems like their problem rather than ours. He’s a useful member of the squad, can easily perform at this level, so if they want him they should pay the wages and appropriate transfer fee. It's not like Johnson who is very unlikely to play so we may be open to doing something with wages. He can easily perform at this level...once every 10 games. And that is his problem
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 15, 2024 17:02:00 GMT
That seems like their problem rather than ours. He’s a useful member of the squad, can easily perform at this level, so if they want him they should pay the wages and appropriate transfer fee. It's not like Johnson who is very unlikely to play so we may be open to doing something with wages. Thought Brum were loaded aswell.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 15, 2024 17:03:23 GMT
Yep McBurnie is free A Blades mate of mine has suggested hes Stoke bound (dont know his source) but Id be surprised Woukd imagine he’ll be after top dollar Might be able to structure it with a big signing on fee to get him to fit into our wage structure. We're going to have to lay some serious money on a striker. He's by no means perfect but at least he's course and distance proven. Not sure I'd be delighted but I wouldn't be too disappointed either. Yeah I tend to agree. We could probably do a lot worse
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Post by a on Jul 15, 2024 17:06:42 GMT
A short explanation of what you feel he brings to the team? Are you a school teacher ? With no manners 😉
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 15, 2024 17:07:08 GMT
Might be able to structure it with a big signing on fee to get him to fit into our wage structure. We're going to have to lay some serious money on a striker. He's by no means perfect but at least he's course and distance proven. Not sure I'd be delighted but I wouldn't be too disappointed either. Yeah I tend to agree. We could probably do a lot worse Agreed. The only thing that concerns me is his recent injury record.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 15, 2024 17:17:45 GMT
It might take a surprise departure or two to set the wheels in motion elsewhere. Josh was a on a free with numerous suitors when he came to Stoke, so will be on decent money. If Schuey doesn't fancy him as skipper or CM, then it would make sense for all parties if he moved on. We get a transfer fee and free up wages.
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