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Post by tuum on Jul 9, 2024 11:26:24 GMT
Agree. From what I have seen of him he looks a great player. He sited that location is a big thing for him and a reason he signed for Wrexham (rumoured 20k a week will have certainly helped) with his son being autistic he doesn’t want to be ‘away from Home’ in the north west. It could work, but all the exposure he’s getting with Wrexham and the upwards trajectory they’re on. Plus we’d only be able to match, at best, his wages it doesn’t make sense. Plus, he’s not exactly proven at Champ level, so 20k would be our main striking option price bracket. That’s without including the whatever million Wrexham will ask for. Very long winded way of saying: I doubt we can/want to afford him. If we could why would we. 20k a week? He's good but a big risk for Stoke at those wages. Happy to pass on that if he is on that kind of deal.
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 9, 2024 11:29:06 GMT
We are short on players but all we hear on here is players being sold until we rectify the shortfall we should sell none
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 9, 2024 11:41:23 GMT
We are short on players but all we hear on here is players being sold until we rectify the shortfall we should sell none Squads actually massive.
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Post by march4 on Jul 9, 2024 11:43:50 GMT
Didn’t he also score a cracker against Liverpool in a pre-season friendly? Irrelevant True. And then they beat us 36 - 0 a couple of weeks later.
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Post by march4 on Jul 9, 2024 11:44:27 GMT
We are short on players but all we hear on here is players being sold until we rectify the shortfall we should sell none Squads actually massive. I’m disappointed we aren’t hearing more about people leaving.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 9, 2024 11:50:41 GMT
He sited that location is a big thing for him and a reason he signed for Wrexham (rumoured 20k a week will have certainly helped) with his son being autistic he doesn’t want to be ‘away from Home’ in the north west. It could work, but all the exposure he’s getting with Wrexham and the upwards trajectory they’re on. Plus we’d only be able to match, at best, his wages it doesn’t make sense. Plus, he’s not exactly proven at Champ level, so 20k would be our main striking option price bracket. That’s without including the whatever million Wrexham will ask for. Very long winded way of saying: I doubt we can/want to afford him. If we could why would we. 20k a week? He's good but a big risk for Stoke at those wages. Happy to pass on that if he is on that kind of deal. I’ve just done abit more googling and it looks like he’s on about £5k (I’m sure I’ve seen £30k somewhere but might have been on here). Even so, he’s definitely be asking for more than that. And no guarantee he steps up.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 9, 2024 11:59:25 GMT
We are short on players but all we hear on here is players being sold until we rectify the shortfall we should sell none We have 25 first teamers. The only position we don't have 2 people for every position is centre back. How many would you think is enough? With money to spend and 5 loans, of course we need to get players out so we can improve quality.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 9, 2024 11:59:35 GMT
20k a week? He's good but a big risk for Stoke at those wages. Happy to pass on that if he is on that kind of deal. I’ve just done abit more googling and it looks like he’s on about £5k (I’m sure I’ve seen £30k somewhere but might have been on here). Even so, he’s definitely be asking for more than that. And no guarantee he steps up. He's not strong enough or quick enough to make it at this level hence why he's spent all his career in the lower leagues.
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 9, 2024 12:19:01 GMT
How many more signings can we realistically expect?. I thought 6/7 are the start of the window, but guess it depends who leaves?.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 9, 2024 12:28:20 GMT
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Post by stokecitydom on Jul 9, 2024 12:32:19 GMT
I thought it was pretty clear that he had great technical ability. He just didn’t really have an end product. However a couple of seasons playing regular football have helped him develop into a really decent player.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 9, 2024 12:34:33 GMT
Free kick from angle of the area I remember Ilford Dave once arguing it was 40 yards out, was about 20 ISH . Good hit though. Legend Legendary driving instructor in Crewe now apparently. His legend is known as far and wide as Shavington and Willaston
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 9, 2024 12:37:51 GMT
Be some get for Everton if they pull that off, I think Palace look the better option for him.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 9, 2024 12:40:26 GMT
Ipswich Town reach agreement with Manchester City to sign Liam Delap. Fee £15 + £5m. 21yo England youth int’l set to do medical on Weds. Personal terms no problem. #MCFC have similar agreement with Southampton but striker has chosen #ITFC @theathleticfc David Ornstein.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 9, 2024 12:47:00 GMT
Scored one of the best goals ever at Charlton🔴⚪️ Didn’t he also score a cracker against Liverpool in a pre-season friendly? see 1.50 on this video
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 9, 2024 12:49:35 GMT
Ipswich Town reach agreement with Manchester City to sign Liam Delap. Fee £15 + £5m. 21yo England youth int’l set to do medical on Weds. Personal terms no problem. #MCFC have similar agreement with Southampton but striker has chosen #ITFC @theathleticfc David Ornstein. Think that's a big price for someone who has had half a good season in the championship.
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Post by questionable on Jul 9, 2024 12:52:27 GMT
Ipswich Town reach agreement with Manchester City to sign Liam Delap. Fee £15 + £5m. 21yo England youth int’l set to do medical on Weds. Personal terms no problem. #MCFC have similar agreement with Southampton but striker has chosen #ITFC @theathleticfc David Ornstein. Think that's a big price for someone who has had half a good season in the championship. Steven’s had him in his back pocket all day
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 9, 2024 12:54:11 GMT
Ipswich Town reach agreement with Manchester City to sign Liam Delap. Fee £15 + £5m. 21yo England youth int’l set to do medical on Weds. Personal terms no problem. #MCFC have similar agreement with Southampton but striker has chosen #ITFC @theathleticfc David Ornstein. Think that's a big price for someone who has had half a good season in the championship. Crikey, young players like Delap definitely have the capacity to improve quickly, but that will need to be a big jump from where he was when he was here. He was one of the rawest talents Ive seen, with only very occasional glimpses of the talent bit unfortunately. Nothing surprises me in football though. Apparently he was starting to look decent before his injury, but that's a big fee based on half a season of potential. Bidace was also raw but you could see how is game could develop with a bit of experience.
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Post by apb1 on Jul 9, 2024 13:06:38 GMT
How many more signings can we realistically expect?. I thought 6/7 are the start of the window, but guess it depends who leaves?. I think we'll lose at least two more from the first team squad, and get at least five more in. If no one leaves I'd expect another new CB, striker, and attacking midfielder
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 9, 2024 13:08:32 GMT
Was holding out some hope he might end up here for less than £5m given the way he took to it in his third loan. Just shows you what a strange beast the transfer market is. You never know.
Not sure I would've gambled £20m on him, but you can obviously see he's got a very high ceiling as young No.9s with his physical attributes are few and far between, so can possibly see why someone's taken the plunge, because if it goes right, it could go very right.
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Post by lordb on Jul 9, 2024 13:27:45 GMT
it's just a completely different market once in the p/l > even if it's the same player!
if Man City had no p/l interest & still wanted to sell the price they world ask for would be massively lower, probably less than half (?)
strikers of course tend to cost more too
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 9, 2024 13:53:24 GMT
Ipswich Town reach agreement with Manchester City to sign Liam Delap. Fee £15 + £5m. 21yo England youth int’l set to do medical on Weds. Personal terms no problem. #MCFC have similar agreement with Southampton but striker has chosen #ITFC @theathleticfc David Ornstein. 15M really seems a bit steep given hes still a bit of an unknown whether he will make it in the Champ let alone the Prem. Clearly he wasnt going to make it at Man City so Im glad he has got out of there. It could be a smart deal if he starts banging them in for Ipswich - 21 years old U21 England International who scored for fun at youth levels. I can see why Ipswich have taken the gamble - he could be worth 50-60M based upon his earlier potential and what he did at Hull.
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Post by caine on Jul 9, 2024 13:59:35 GMT
We are short on players but all we hear on here is players being sold until we rectify the shortfall we should sell none Squads actually massive. Surely space after loan's and couple out of contract were released, Campbell and Wesley. There is 100 percent room for a striker or 2, one loan and one permi signing. Cant see us signing loads of players. Signed so many last year so just need to add some quality in certain areas which we have done already.
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Post by george2again on Jul 9, 2024 14:06:49 GMT
Where are we at? We need another starting centre back, Wilmot and Rose as back up. Full backs covered. Midfield, well Thompson and Berger ( Thompson as back up) , I like Baker but not consistent enough, our captain is pretty crap and no leader. Sidibie new contract. Perhaps we’re looking to shed Baker, Lauren and Johnson which is the clubs biggest task. Perhaps Selling Lauren would help us pay Johnson off which is half the motivation to get rid. I like Bae as a 10 not wide so we basically have Million wide with Bae able to play there if needed. Up top we’re just SHIT. Need two strikers as a minimum. Ennis was clearly a panic buy and Mmaee just not suited to English. Think many fans live in blind hope he comes good but he’s too slow and lazy to have long standing impact.
To summarise, Starting centre back ( pace and strength) Two centre midfielders ( if two of Lauren, Johnson or Baker go) One pacy wide forward Two centre forwards. Mmaee to Turkey hopefully) and Ennis to scrap heap.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 9, 2024 14:17:02 GMT
Where are we at? We need another starting centre back, Wilmot and Rose as back up. Full backs covered. Midfield, well Thompson and Berger ( Thompson as back up) , I like Baker but not consistent enough, our captain is pretty crap and no leader. Sidibie new contract. Perhaps we’re looking to shed Baker, Lauren and Johnson which is the clubs biggest task. Perhaps Selling Lauren would help us pay Johnson off which is half the motivation to get rid. I like Bae as a 10 not wide so we basically have Million wide with Bae able to play there if needed. Up top we’re just SHIT. Need two strikers as a minimum. Ennis was clearly a panic buy and Mmaee just not suited to English. Think many fans live in blind hope he comes good but he’s too slow and lazy to have long standing impact. To summarise, Starting centre back ( pace and strength) Two centre midfielders ( if two of Lauren, Johnson or Baker go) One pacy wide forward Two centre forwards. Mmaee to Turkey hopefully) and Ennis to scrap heap. Thank fuck you aren’t in charge that’s all I’ll say🤦🏼♂️🔴⚪️
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 9, 2024 14:21:07 GMT
Where are we at? We need another starting centre back, Wilmot and Rose as back up. Full backs covered. Midfield, well Thompson and Berger ( Thompson as back up) , I like Baker but not consistent enough, our captain is pretty crap and no leader. Sidibie new contract. Perhaps we’re looking to shed Baker, Lauren and Johnson which is the clubs biggest task. Perhaps Selling Lauren would help us pay Johnson off which is half the motivation to get rid. I like Bae as a 10 not wide so we basically have Million wide with Bae able to play there if needed. Up top we’re just SHIT. Need two strikers as a minimum. Ennis was clearly a panic buy and Mmaee just not suited to English. Think many fans live in blind hope he comes good but he’s too slow and lazy to have long standing impact. To summarise, Starting centre back ( pace and strength) Two centre midfielders ( if two of Lauren, Johnson or Baker go) One pacy wide forward Two centre forwards. Mmaee to Turkey hopefully) and Ennis to scrap heap. Thank fuck you aren’t in charge that’s all I’ll say🤦🏼♂️🔴⚪️ What's wrong with that he's said? Just interested to know from your pov...
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 9, 2024 14:21:16 GMT
Where are we at? We need another starting centre back, Wilmot and Rose as back up. Full backs covered. Midfield, well Thompson and Berger ( Thompson as back up) , I like Baker but not consistent enough, our captain is pretty crap and no leader. Sidibie new contract. Perhaps we’re looking to shed Baker, Lauren and Johnson which is the clubs biggest task. Perhaps Selling Lauren would help us pay Johnson off which is half the motivation to get rid. I like Bae as a 10 not wide so we basically have Million wide with Bae able to play there if needed. Up top we’re just SHIT. Need two strikers as a minimum. Ennis was clearly a panic buy and Mmaee just not suited to English. Think many fans live in blind hope he comes good but he’s too slow and lazy to have long standing impact. To summarise, Starting centre back ( pace and strength) Two centre midfielders ( if two of Lauren, Johnson or Baker go) One pacy wide forward Two centre forwards. Mmaee to Turkey hopefully) and Ennis to scrap heap. Thank fuck you aren’t in charge that’s all I’ll say🤦🏼♂️🔴⚪️ There isn't actually anything wrong with what he said. He is right. We do need 2 strikers, we do need a starting centre back next to Gibson. We do need centre mids and possibly a left winger. I agree and I think most would agree with that
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 9, 2024 14:22:30 GMT
Interesting that Jebbison guy who is going Bournemouth is apparently going be loaned out. Not an out and out goalscorer yet but seems really highly rated
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 9, 2024 14:25:10 GMT
Looks like Browne to Sunderland
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 9, 2024 14:25:46 GMT
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