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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 27, 2024 8:09:08 GMT
Played 30 games for Walsall last year so seems he is able to survive in men's football, so many promising youngsters fail to make the transition. Last season will have been very important in his development whether he is judged ready to make the step up will be an interesting aspect of our pre season. Far better off having another season out on loan than sitting on our bench and getting very few minutes. Maybe league 2 again to start off then if he’s impressing a step up the league 1 in Jan. Similar for Tezgel, Lowe and Sidibe. I cnt see sidibe going any where, the others perhaps tho.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 27, 2024 8:10:32 GMT
Far better off having another season out on loan than sitting on our bench and getting very few minutes. Maybe league 2 again to start off then if he’s impressing a step up the league 1 in Jan. Similar for Tezgel, Lowe and Sidibe. I cnt see sidibe going any where, the others perhaps tho. He should. I doubt very much he’ll get sufficient minutes for it to be the best option for his development.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 27, 2024 8:18:05 GMT
I cnt see sidibe going any where, the others perhaps tho. He should. I doubt very much he’ll get sufficient minutes for it to be the best option for his development. Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 27, 2024 8:30:25 GMT
He should. I doubt very much he’ll get sufficient minutes for it to be the best option for his development. Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season. I haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he’s that prodigious because you’re talking about exceptions rather than the rule. Based on the fact our squad is chock full of senior deep lying central midfielders I still think a loan would be far more sensible.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 27, 2024 8:31:44 GMT
Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season. I haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he’s that prodigious because you’re talking about exceptions rather than the rule. Based on the fact our squad is chock full of senior deep lying central midfielders I still think a loan would be far more sensible. Fair comment. Rigg, sunderland.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 27, 2024 8:32:53 GMT
He should. I doubt very much he’ll get sufficient minutes for it to be the best option for his development. Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season. Lowe looked a mile away (He’ll have to put on a lot of muscle because he sure ain’t quick) and Tezgel wasn’t even a guaranteed starter in league 2.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 27, 2024 8:33:48 GMT
Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season. Lowe looked a mile away (He’ll have to put on a lot of muscle because he sure ain’t quick) and Tezgel wasn’t even a guaranteed starter in league 2. Id loan both out but you never no.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 27, 2024 8:35:00 GMT
I haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he’s that prodigious because you’re talking about exceptions rather than the rule. Based on the fact our squad is chock full of senior deep lying central midfielders I still think a loan would be far more sensible. Fair comment. Rigg, sunderland. Rooney even they’re still the exception rather than the rule. Everton paid £10M for Lookman from Charlton years ago but he’s only just starting to flourish.
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Post by stokefanone on Jun 27, 2024 8:44:10 GMT
Hoping that we get a striker and left winger in soon, we should be ok otherwise.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 27, 2024 8:55:23 GMT
Fair comment. Rigg, sunderland. Rooney even they’re still the exception rather than the rule. Everton paid £10M for Lookman from Charlton years ago but he’s only just starting to flourish. Lookman... bigged up when young, perhaps he didnt apply himself properly when he was younger. Lots do it. I think Sidibe will be like his old man. Proper pro on and off the pitch. And just want to improve all the time as he has that potential. I can see what your saying Bacon. Chelsea, AC milan and Monaco where linked to be watching a while back and impressed. Cnt just over look him if we are serious about a pathway for such players.
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Post by baconburger on Jun 27, 2024 9:09:13 GMT
Rooney even they’re still the exception rather than the rule. Everton paid £10M for Lookman from Charlton years ago but he’s only just starting to flourish. Lookman... bigged up when young, perhaps he didnt apply himself properly when he was younger. Lots do it. I think Sidibe will be like his old man. Proper pro on and off the pitch. And just want to improve all the time as he has that potential. I can see what your saying Bacon. Chelsea, AC milan and Monaco where linked to be watching a while back and impressed. Cnt just over look him if we are serious about a pathway for such players. The pathway doesn’t need to involve them getting their first regular football in our first team. Nothing wrong with going out on loan top top players have done so in their early career.
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Post by st3mark on Jun 27, 2024 9:16:28 GMT
The fish said 3 by the end of this week. But I'll be surprised if we get another two over the line that quickly. Maybe by early next week is a more realistic expectation if we are close to others as suggested. I think Fish said hoping for 3 I before pre season Isn't that the same timeframe? 😀
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 27, 2024 9:17:21 GMT
So often we've had some wanted us to throw youngsters in who simply weren't good enough at the time and drifted down the leagues since , Shenton was a prime example. Sidibe on the other hand has shown in glimpses that he has what it takes , perhaps. Early days but hasn't looked out of place.
We get the..give the youngsters a go they can't do any worse comments but so far Lowe and Tezgel look a distance away from this level.
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Post by lordb on Jun 27, 2024 9:18:33 GMT
Played 30 games for Walsall last year so seems he is able to survive in men's football, so many promising youngsters fail to make the transition. Last season will have been very important in his development whether he is judged ready to make the step up will be an interesting aspect of our pre season. Far better off having another season out on loan than sitting on our bench and getting very few minutes. Maybe league 2 again to start off then if he’s impressing a step up the league 1 in Jan. Similar for Tezgel, Lowe and Sidibe. however we have 3 centre backs someone has to be back up
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Post by lordb on Jun 27, 2024 9:19:49 GMT
Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season. I haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he’s that prodigious because you’re talking about exceptions rather than the rule. Based on the fact our squad is chock full of senior deep lying central midfielders I still think a loan would be far more sensible. we do have too many midfielders Sidibe is very highly rated, chosen England, France wanted him going to be difficult to keep him
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Post by lordb on Jun 27, 2024 9:20:24 GMT
I think Fish said hoping for 3 I before pre season Isn't that the same timeframe? 😀 it was the 'hoping' bit rather than the date
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Post by st3mark on Jun 27, 2024 9:24:03 GMT
Isn't that the same timeframe? 😀 it was the 'hoping' bit rather than the date Ah right I'm with ya. I won't hold it against him anyway, I'd be amazed if we got that many in before pre season
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 27, 2024 9:27:31 GMT
it was the 'hoping' bit rather than the date Ah right I'm with ya. I won't hold it against him anyway, I'd be amazed if we got that many in before pre season Yep, some happen some don't Two decent looking signings so far Sorry 3
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 27, 2024 9:56:06 GMT
Jude and Jobe are a good example. Young talented. They didnt need a loan. Sidibe would benefit more with the first team and Schuey being brave to give him plenty minutes. Emre and Lowe perhaps would benefit from loans. Fuck knows they might even be in his thoughts this coming season. I haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he’s that prodigious because you’re talking about exceptions rather than the rule. Based on the fact our squad is chock full of senior deep lying central midfielders I still think a loan would be far more sensible. I've always wondered whether you can loan out a player before they are 18? I would imagine that until they are 18 a club has a duty of care and there may be safe guarding issues around loans to other clubs.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 27, 2024 10:06:35 GMT
I haven’t seen enough of him to know whether he’s that prodigious because you’re talking about exceptions rather than the rule. Based on the fact our squad is chock full of senior deep lying central midfielders I still think a loan would be far more sensible. I've always wondered whether you can loan out a player before they are 18? I would imagine that until they are 18 a club has a duty of care and there may be safe guarding issues around loans to other clubs. I know on football manager you aren't allowed to loan players out until they are 17. Now I'm not saying that is true to real life but alot of the rules do apply so I'm guessing that is correct.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 27, 2024 10:07:25 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 27, 2024 10:23:31 GMT
I've always wondered whether you can loan out a player before they are 18? I would imagine that until they are 18 a club has a duty of care and there may be safe guarding issues around loans to other clubs. I know on football manager you aren't allowed to loan players out until they are 17. Now I'm not saying that is true to real life but alot of the rules do apply so I'm guessing that is correct. It is correct. They have to be on a professional contract first which they sign at 17
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 27, 2024 10:25:05 GMT
I know on football manager you aren't allowed to loan players out until they are 17. Now I'm not saying that is true to real life but alot of the rules do apply so I'm guessing that is correct. It is correct. They have to be on a professional contract first which they sign at 17 Thankyou mate. It makes sense really.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 27, 2024 10:26:58 GMT
I'd like to see us go for him mate and take a chance.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 27, 2024 10:32:27 GMT
I'd like to see us go for him mate and take a chance. Seems to score goals for fun and unless someone takes a chance on him I suppose we’ll never know if he can make the step up
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 27, 2024 10:36:50 GMT
I'd like to see us go for him mate and take a chance. Seems to score goals for fun and unless someone takes a chance on him I suppose we’ll never know if he can make the step up I think we would need to bring someone in with experience of this level aswell as him but I wouldn't mind him here. It's obviously a risk though with the step up but could be a Vardy and bang them in.
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Post by premieraj on Jun 27, 2024 10:50:20 GMT
I'd like to see us go for him mate and take a chance. Seems to score goals for fun and unless someone takes a chance on him I suppose we’ll never know if he can make the step up Yes but so did Chris Greenacre so you can never tell can you.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 27, 2024 10:59:48 GMT
Seems to score goals for fun and unless someone takes a chance on him I suppose we’ll never know if he can make the step up Yes but so did Chris Greenacre so you can never tell can you. Suppose if we don't play him as a winger he might have more of a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 11:00:30 GMT
Interesting gamble from Millwall. Is it a win-win? I reckon it is. He's a player with a huge record at a lower level so you'll always have a market to get rid if it doesn't work out and if it does, then happy days.
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Post by cja103 on Jun 27, 2024 11:00:43 GMT
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