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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 15, 2024 10:33:24 GMT
Will FFP allow us to do that though? You need to have a squad and depth in positions. FFP or not. Now last years squad was too big, but was also imbalanced, so every player bought isn't going to be an upgrade. We need RB and centre back cover, but I don't think we need starts for those positions. If we manage to move johnson on we need to cover for the number 10 spot, but i don't expect someone better than Bae Jun-ho. We have desperate a need of a better striker and those are expensive. So we will have to cut our clothe in other positions. We've got CB cover, we badly need another starter there but you're completely right about the balance, plenty of cover but in the wrong places. Hopefully the main aim this time round is to get that balance right.
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Post by idle on Jun 15, 2024 11:02:25 GMT
My memory is fine, he was shite when he was here. That doesn't mean he won't come good. I agree that the £10M they're asking is way overpriced. But at £5M? Hull paid £5M for Bidace, which I thought was ridiculous for a show pony with no end product. I hope (our) professional scouts are better at seeing potential than I am, cause I suck at it. And let's be honest, almost every fan does too. It was clear Bidace was going to be a very good player. Players of that age more often than not have to work on their end product, he'd have been playing for Villa and worth 20m if he already had it, look at Junho for example. Point me to the post where you're saying he's mint and should be signed, even for £5M, or you're talking bollocks. Consensus on here was that he was ineffective and had little end product, even if he could dribble a bit.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Jun 15, 2024 11:06:43 GMT
I like Wilmot more than you then. I think with Gibson alongside him we will see a better player next season. I don't think 5 million on another CB can be afforded. We currently need LB, CB Cover/Starter, RB cover, Starting Striker, Maybe 1 winger. In can see us spending money on a striker and maybe Cundle. Good news is we have 4 loans. Apart from that it needs to be 1 in, 1 out. I'd love to see Pearson and Johnson moved on, but that might not happen. You need to have a squad and depth in positions. FFP or not. Now last years squad was too big, but was also imbalanced, so every player bought isn't going to be an upgrade. We need RB and centre back cover, but I don't think we need starts for those positions. If we manage to move johnson on we need to cover for the number 10 spot, but i don't expect someone better than Bae Jun-ho. We have desperate a need of a better striker and those are expensive. So we will have to cut our clothe in other positions. We've got CB cover, we badly need another starter there but you're completely right about the balance, plenty of cover but in the wrong places. Hopefully the main aim this time round is to get that balance right.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 15, 2024 11:17:50 GMT
From the Daily Record report about Connor Barron: "English sides Swansea City, Cardiff City, Wayne Rooney’s Plymouth and Stoke City......" These Scots have an impressive grasp of geography! Bit like their grasp of football! Wayne Rooney's Plymouth,didn't realise he owned the club.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 15, 2024 11:36:33 GMT
I like Wilmot more than you then. I think with Gibson alongside him we will see a better player next season. I don't think 5 million on another CB can be afforded. We currently need LB, CB Cover/Starter, RB cover, Starting Striker, Maybe 1 winger. In can see us spending money on a striker and maybe Cundle. Good news is we have 4 loans. Apart from that it needs to be 1 in, 1 out. I'd love to see Pearson and Johnson moved on, but that might not happen. We've got CB cover, we badly need another starter there but you're completely right about the balance, plenty of cover but in the wrong places. Hopefully the main aim this time round is to get that balance right. Surely all players should be potential starters? If not the first team gets complacent and if you cant get your complete first team on the pitch (which is the majority of the season) you are by definition playing a weakened side. In terms of a winger - do you mean inverted forward? I don't think we play with wingers in the traditional sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 11:39:40 GMT
I like Wilmot more than you then. I think with Gibson alongside him we will see a better player next season. I don't think 5 million on another CB can be afforded. We currently need LB, CB Cover/Starter, RB cover, Starting Striker, Maybe 1 winger. In can see us spending money on a striker and maybe Cundle. Good news is we have 4 loans. Apart from that it needs to be 1 in, 1 out. I'd love to see Pearson and Johnson moved on, but that might not happen. We've got CB cover, we badly need another starter there but you're completely right about the balance, plenty of cover but in the wrong places. Hopefully the main aim this time round is to get that balance right. I agree with this up until the point made about loans. We haven’t successfully used the loan market since relegation. All that we’ve achieved is expensively papering over cracks that should be filled through permanent signings.
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2024 11:40:09 GMT
It was clear Bidace was going to be a very good player. Players of that age more often than not have to work on their end product, he'd have been playing for Villa and worth 20m if he already had it, look at Junho for example. Point me to the post where you're saying he's mint and should be signed, even for £5M, or you're talking bollocks. Consensus on here was that he was ineffective and had little end product, even if he could dribble a bit. Tons of posts last summer saying exactly that loads of posts when he was here saying he was mint
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 15, 2024 11:49:27 GMT
Will FFP allow us to do that though? You need to have a squad and depth in positions. FFP or not. Now last years squad was too big, but was also imbalanced, so every player bought isn't going to be an upgrade. We need RB and centre back cover, but I don't think we need starts for those positions. If we manage to move johnson on we need to cover for the number 10 spot, but i don't expect someone better than Bae Jun-ho. We have desperate a need of a better striker and those are expensive. So we will have to cut our clothe in other positions. We certainly need a left back more than a right back in my opinion. Stevens is OK, but won't play more than half of the games at best. At right back we have Junior and Gooch at least. So for me left back, winger with pace and striker with pace should be our 3 priorities.
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Post by gingerninja on Jun 15, 2024 12:00:55 GMT
I am pretty sure McCullum has signed, just not been announced yet👍
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Post by samwidge on Jun 15, 2024 12:01:10 GMT
You need to have a squad and depth in positions. FFP or not. Now last years squad was too big, but was also imbalanced, so every player bought isn't going to be an upgrade. We need RB and centre back cover, but I don't think we need starts for those positions. If we manage to move johnson on we need to cover for the number 10 spot, but i don't expect someone better than Bae Jun-ho. We have desperate a need of a better striker and those are expensive. So we will have to cut our clothe in other positions. We certainly need a left back more than a right back in my opinion. Stevens is OK, but won't play more than half of the games at best. At right back we have Junior and Gooch at least. So for me left back, winger with pace and striker with pace should be our 3 priorities. I'd like another CB along with your list Rob. That lad from Qpr who used to belong to Chelsea. 🤔 his name escapes me, 🤔 think it was double barreled but could be probably am wrong.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Jun 15, 2024 12:29:27 GMT
I'm expecting that one to land too. So starting GK, CB and LB sorted for 800,000 K is a very astute start to the campaign. I am pretty sure McCullum has signed, just not been announced yet👍
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 15, 2024 12:32:30 GMT
I am pretty sure McCullum has signed, just not been announced yet👍 😂 love this take.
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Post by idle on Jun 15, 2024 12:41:18 GMT
Point me to the post where you're saying he's mint and should be signed, even for £5M, or you're talking bollocks. Consensus on here was that he was ineffective and had little end product, even if he could dribble a bit. Tons of posts last summer saying exactly that loads of posts when he was here saying he was mint If you say so...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 15, 2024 12:41:22 GMT
It was clear Bidace was going to be a very good player. Players of that age more often than not have to work on their end product, he'd have been playing for Villa and worth 20m if he already had it, look at Junho for example. Point me to the post where you're saying he's mint and should be signed, even for £5M, or you're talking bollocks. Consensus on here was that he was ineffective and had little end product, even if he could dribble a bit. I posted loads of times about him when he was here saying we should sign him permanently. You're welcome to search my profile and find them.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 15, 2024 12:43:07 GMT
I am pretty sure McCullum has signed, just not been announced yet👍 According to some on here he signed 5 weeks ago but we can't be arsed to announce it. Its called arse gravy.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 15, 2024 12:51:10 GMT
McCallum might end up joining, but this nothion that he's signed and we're delaying the announcement is utter nonsense and needs to stop.
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Post by etebojan on Jun 15, 2024 13:00:53 GMT
McCallum might end up joining, but this nothion that he's signed and we're delaying the announcement is utter nonsense and needs to stop. Sounds like we’re still negotiating on pay from various ITK’s on TwXtter is that the word from the Secret Cirtle?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 15, 2024 13:18:12 GMT
McCallum might end up joining, but this nothion that he's signed and we're delaying the announcement is utter nonsense and needs to stop. Sounds like we’re still negotiating on pay from various ITK’s on TwXtter is that the word from the Secret Cirtle? There's 1 story in the cirtle and I don't particularly believe it.
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Post by mcstoke on Jun 15, 2024 13:18:31 GMT
I’ve seen enough. sign duah stoke
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 15, 2024 13:46:41 GMT
There’s something in the order of the process that Stoke do that leads people to believe that they’ve signed.
I actually fully understand how when passed on, people are led to believe they’ve signed when they haven’t actually.
So when people are slagging off ITK’s for saying X had signed, it’s not actually their fault when they don’t end up happening.
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Post by etebojan on Jun 15, 2024 13:50:40 GMT
Sounds like we’re still negotiating on pay from various ITK’s on TwXtter is that the word from the Secret Cirtle? There's 1 story in the cirtle and I don't particularly believe it. A Story like Arnie returning or BBD signing type unbelievable?
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 15, 2024 13:54:03 GMT
I’ve seen enough. sign duah stoke Born in London so no WP either.
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2024 14:04:02 GMT
I’ve seen enough. sign duah stoke Born in London so no WP either. Took his goal really well general play been poor
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Post by lordb on Jun 15, 2024 14:05:20 GMT
Born in London so no WP either. Took his goal really well general play been poor Just showed well
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 15, 2024 14:16:19 GMT
There's 1 story in the cirtle and I don't particularly believe it. A Story like Arnie returning or BBD signing type unbelievable? I meant a story about McCallum that I don't believe.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 15, 2024 15:46:39 GMT
A Story like Arnie returning or BBD signing type unbelievable? I meant a story about McCallum that I don't believe. Whats the story fella?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2024 15:47:00 GMT
There’s something in the order of the process that Stoke do that leads people to believe that they’ve signed. I actually fully understand how when passed on, people are led to believe they’ve signed when they haven’t actually. So when people are slagging off ITK’s for saying X had signed, it’s not actually their fault when they don’t end up happening. Disagree. Like when MC said it was going to be sorted “this weekend” if it doesnt become public then, then it’s absolute bollocks and don’t say it.
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Post by liathroid on Jun 15, 2024 16:07:45 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 15, 2024 21:44:40 GMT
I would be happy with Delap, I think he's got all the attributes to become a good player. I think the main issue when he came to us was, it was his first loan and previously he was playing in the u21s where he would of been used to being one of the biggest and strongest players in the league. You could see when he played for us he tried playing the same way and using his strength too much against experienced defenders. He will have adapted his game and gotten stronger last year at Hull. I definitely think Liam has come on as a player. Have a look at the goal he scored last season against Birmingham away. He led the line and made that goal all himself. He’d never have done anything like that playing for us. He scored 8 goals in the equivalent of 24 and a bit full games for Hull, so roughly a goal every 3 games which is more than handy. Not a chance would I pay anything more than £5M for him. But at that price and with a buyback clause inserted into the deal, City may be willing to do business. Maybe not the worst idea in the world for Mmaee to swap places with Delap at Hull either on loan. I’d actually be interested to see what he can do with players like Philogene and Seri around him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 23:24:18 GMT
Dembele at Blackpool sounds like an excellent prospect.
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