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Post by nott1 on Apr 22, 2024 11:09:06 GMT
Had a new cam belt fitted yesterday and today...yes it needed two days to finish the job....ÂŖ1200.00 Vat included. Where did you have it done mate, was it a main dealer? Did you investigate various garage services? My daughter (who strangely enough was conceived as a result of a relationship) has a 2013 Fiesta with that engine, so this was news to me of the 'not so good' kind. Wonder if some financial crusaders (like the PPI, Waspi's etc) will try to take Ford through the courts to get compensation for the hundreds of thousands who will be adversely affected worldwide? I have used Sandicliffe Ford until this year but checked several garages for a quote for this job and chose a trusted independant. I will not go back to Ford dealers again they are too expensive and there are some people quoting ridiculous amounts to do this work (takes 9 hours). BBC watchdog did a docu on this problem in February I gather but Ford have not done a recall here, only in USA and Mexico! A lot of independants will not do this job because they have to buy expensive special tool kits. The cambelts and other parts are difficult to get at and some take the engine out altogether to do it. Please get yours checked out if you want to avoid a disaster!
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Post by henry on Apr 22, 2024 15:03:21 GMT
Where did you have it done mate, was it a main dealer? Did you investigate various garage services? My daughter (who strangely enough was conceived as a result of a relationship) has a 2013 Fiesta with that engine, so this was news to me of the 'not so good' kind. Wonder if some financial crusaders (like the PPI, Waspi's etc) will try to take Ford through the courts to get compensation for the hundreds of thousands who will be adversely affected worldwide? I have used Sandicliffe Ford until this year but checked several garages for a quote for this job and chose a trusted independant. I will not go back to Ford dealers again they are too expensive and there are some people quoting ridiculous amounts to do this work (takes 9 hours). BBC watchdog did a docu on this problem in February I gather but Ford have not done a recall here, only in USA and Mexico! A lot of independants will not do this job because they have to buy expensive special tool kits. The cambelts and other parts are difficult to get at and some take the engine out altogether to do it. Please get yours checked out if you want to avoid a disaster! Just spoke with Ford and they confirmed non recall over here yet. They were adamant that the belt is ok for 144k or ten years đ. The Facebook page for eco boost wet belt problems makes for grim reading. Probably get mine traded in soon. Pity, I think cars great âšī¸
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Post by nott1 on Apr 23, 2024 5:24:07 GMT
I have used Sandicliffe Ford until this year but checked several garages for a quote for this job and chose a trusted independant. I will not go back to Ford dealers again they are too expensive and there are some people quoting ridiculous amounts to do this work (takes 9 hours). BBC watchdog did a docu on this problem in February I gather but Ford have not done a recall here, only in USA and Mexico! A lot of independants will not do this job because they have to buy expensive special tool kits. The cambelts and other parts are difficult to get at and some take the engine out altogether to do it. Please get yours checked out if you want to avoid a disaster! Just spoke with Ford and they confirmed non recall over here yet. They were adamant that the belt is ok for 144k or ten years đ. The Facebook page for eco boost wet belt problems makes for grim reading. Probably get mine traded in soon. Pity, I think cars great âšī¸ I think it is 100k now but many have gone well before that even 17k on a transit. I think you might struggle to get a decent price unless you sell it to someone who does not know the situation. Not sure if a dealer would do a decent trade in as they would know. You would get a better price if the job gets done first but it may or may not make financial sense. Good luck anyway!
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2024 20:27:56 GMT
Had an old style cambelt, rollers, tensioners, water pump, an oil change and aux belt today. ÂŖ550 I've been reading up on them since I found this thread. Apparently missing an oil change interval by only a few months can be absolutely catastrophic as it causes the rubber to break down.... Which again begs the question.... How is submerging a rubber belt in oil better for it than putting it on the outside? I remember the old Duratec and Endura engines. Both chain driven. Last forever. Shame the cars rotted around them. I agree and will never understand why chains are not compulsory as a safety measure! I'd more than happily sack of cambelts and these wet belts for chains. I'm confused how submerging a rubber belt in oil actually benefits it... I guess the engineers behind them could explain. They are Kevlar not rubber. Understood... And point taken but at the end of the day, it seems an insanely complicated solution to something that was already mastered by metal chains and then more recently, slightly refined with exterior cambelts. It was my understanding that the reason manufacturers looked for alternatives to chains was to increase fuel economy in-line with EU regulations and to reduce overall engine noise. Supposedly cambelts give slightly better fuel economy. Nonetheless chains are an excellent solution and cambelts are slightly inferior if a bit more refined solution (perhaps you wouldn't want a rattly chain on a 160k Bentley) But this is like planned obsolescence. Like I say, perhaps the engineers can explain. Granted my limited understanding doesn't help but I fail to see the advantage of submerging a Kevlar belt in oil over the alternatives and the fact they're now failing left, right and centre on relatively new cars (particularly those that have a questionable service history) says that they're a bad answer to a problem that had already been solved. Not saying Ford make bad cars, not by a long shot... but it's a bit like saying Apple make bad phones. They don't.... but they have a well-deserved reputation for devices that fail prematurely. It's not an unjustified reputation at the end of the day.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 24, 2024 5:10:11 GMT
No more than a coincidence. Obviously. But literally no-one on this thread has ever had a relationship with a woman. Or with a man either, come to that. Not so much as a peck on the cheek. I will have you know cam belts could be replaced with a woman's stocking (or a man's for Rocky Horror fans) back in the day real men fixed their own cars! đ
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Post by nott1 on Apr 24, 2024 5:37:38 GMT
No more than a coincidence. Obviously. But literally no-one on this thread has ever had a relationship with a woman. Or with a man either, come to that. Not so much as a peck on the cheek. I will have you know cam belts could be replaced with a woman's stocking (or a man's for Rocky Horror fans) back in the day real men fixed their own cars! đ Never heard of cambelts being replaced with stockings but certainly fan belts were!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 24, 2024 9:16:57 GMT
I will have you know cam belts could be replaced with a woman's stocking (or a man's for Rocky Horror fans) back in the day real men fixed their own cars! đ Never heard of cambelts being replaced with stockings but certainly fan belts were! I thought so, show's my knowledge, thank god for dad's! đ
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Post by pretzel on May 8, 2024 19:02:33 GMT
Got my daughter's Fiesta Ecotec done at an independant garage outside of the area, managing to save a few hundred quid. A stressful and unnecessary expense (thank you Mr Ford) As I know there are a few others on here that are interested in this kind of shit, I thought I'd post a photo of what the new belt looks like in situ (I wanted proof it had been done.. have heard horror stories of garages saying they'd done it, only for it to fail of old age in the following months) Attachments:
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Post by pretzel on May 8, 2024 19:05:37 GMT
And this is the delamination of an old belt that I was shown (not my daughter's) that in time will clog the oilways and oil pump to bring the engine to an early demise. Attachments:
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