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Post by GrahamHyde on Apr 10, 2024 21:49:32 GMT
Just think about it,Sheffield Wed.could do the double over us. I went through the fixtures and our results against those around us are absolutely shocking. Blackburn did the double. We gave 3/6 to Brum. 2 draws with udders .. Etc etc. We are so bad. We're a League One side. Really atrocious.
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Post by Block 26 on Apr 10, 2024 21:50:22 GMT
I went out with the geodies as I went out with them on Saturday to watch the Newcastle game & in return they had to come out with myself tonight to watch Stoke.
Embarrassing is the only way I can describe it.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Apr 10, 2024 21:51:22 GMT
Just think about it,Sheffield Wed.could do the double over us. I went through the fixtures and our results against those around us are absolutely shocking. Blackburn did the double. We gave 3/6 to Brum. 2 draws with udders .. Etc etc. We are so bad. On the other hand, last 3 games we have lost we have won the next one? Lost at Cardiff away 2-1 then beat Middlesbrough at home 2-0 Lost at Leeds 1-0 then beat Preston away 1-2 Lost at home to Norwich 0-3 then beat Hull away 0-2 Lost at Swansea 3-0 ??????? I think we will squeak by
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 10, 2024 21:54:52 GMT
I went through the fixtures and our results against those around us are absolutely shocking. Blackburn did the double. We gave 3/6 to Brum. 2 draws with udders .. Etc etc. We are so bad. On the other hand, last 3 games we have lost we have won the next one? Lost at Cardiff away 2-1 then beat Middlesbrough at home 2-0 Lost at Leeds 1-0 then beat Preston away 1-2 Lost at home to Norwich 0-3 then beat Hull away 0-2 Lost at Swansea 3-0 ??????? I think we will squeak by Shed Wednesday form over the long term has been pretty good. Someone said around the top 6 over the last 15? Their recent spell not so great but much better than us and came from 2 down to draw Norwich. If they beat us and Blackburn they are safe, and Blackburn remain above us. Really hope we can scramble a win and a draw from somewhere.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Apr 10, 2024 22:05:15 GMT
Wednesday A Plymouth H Southampton A Bristol city H
1 point draw against plymouth. Cnt think anything else after that performance.
Gutless tonight. Real shame as when we play well we look ok but when we dont we are truly poor. No where near the standards tonight.
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Post by tuum on Apr 10, 2024 22:07:55 GMT
Why, because we have had a couple of decisions go against us? We don't need VAR and I am happy to take the rough with the smooth. I see it as part of the emotion of watching football. No, it's the hundreds if not thousands of decisions incorrect in the championship. This is just more evidence. But yeah forget the facts... Refs get things wrong. I accept this fact as part of football. It bothers me to the extent that it gives me something to moan about after the game but that is all part of the fun as far as I am concerned. I can live with refs making mistakes...blaming them when we lose somehow makes it easier. I guarantee that if the league had VAR then Leicester, Ipswich and Leeds would still be at the top and Rotherham, Birmingham and Sheff Wed would still be at the bottom. In the meantime, I am happy for us to take our chances with the rest of the teams and accept that occasionally refs get it wrong. I am not interested in fairness in football, I am all about ranting about injustice after the fact with no desire to change.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 10, 2024 22:14:50 GMT
Swansea 4 shots on target & score 3,we would need about 100 shots on target to score 3.
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Post by tuum on Apr 10, 2024 22:19:54 GMT
Looking on the bright side the last 3 times we lost a game we won the next one! That's good to know. I am a bit concerned but we have 4 games left. We probably only need to win one. If we beat Sheff Wed then they would need 7 points from their last 3 games to overtake us. Huddersfiled and Birmingham need 7 points from 4 games and they have to play each other. So, it would need to be a uniquely shit set of results for us to go down with 49 points....but, we need to win one more. My concern is I don't think the players are particularly strong mentally. Lose to Sheff Wed on Saturday and then Plymouth becomes tense. I think under pressure this team can crumble. If it came down to the last game v Bristol it could be too much for them ( and the fans). It certainly makes for a nervy end to the season.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 10, 2024 22:35:42 GMT
I went out with the geodies as I went out with them on Saturday to watch the Newcastle game & in return they had to come out with myself tonight to watch Stoke. Embarrassing is the only way I can describe it. Feel for you big time there mate…absolutely gutless🔴⚪️
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 10, 2024 22:39:06 GMT
That was never a 3=0 ever. what a shit show the officials are.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Apr 10, 2024 22:46:49 GMT
This Swansea fan’s comment on the BBC Football website pretty much nails it:
Poor performance from Stoke they looked anything but a Championship team on that showing. Played like a team of strangers. Didn't get the rub of the green with two decisions but played without passion and commitment.
I’m really beginning to wonder what options SS has in defence as all our back line seemed AWFUL.
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Post by maine on Apr 10, 2024 22:50:56 GMT
Jesus McMuffin replied to me.
Maine---'That 'useless' defender Tymon had Meinhof in his pocket all match.
JM -'He didn't be fair
We had so little possession the last third
Manhoef was the one player who looked like we might do something...and we took him off'
I thought Tymon looked more dangerous as an attacker than Manhoef on the night, and controlled him defensively. However, I totally agree that Million shouldn't have been taken off. We have players including him and Junho and Burger, who may be playing poorly but are always capable of doing something. Replacing them, whilst keeping the likes of Laurent on, is simply bad management in my opinion.
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Post by marwood on Apr 10, 2024 23:11:09 GMT
Just got back That was a painful experience Walking to the ground, all their fans were convinced they were going to lose and there was no noise from the home support until they were 2-0 up They were there for the taking, home fans would have turned given the slightest reason
Having now seen the disallowed goal replay, Im even more disappointed and yes it might have evened things up but we were as bad as I have seen us in years
I cant bring myself to give player ratings, it goes to show how bad we were that I was glad when Cundle came on*
Thoroughly piddled off and I have to go into work in Swansea tomorrow. And I have fucking toothache fucking mint
*that lasted about 2 minutes
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Post by ibby on Apr 10, 2024 23:11:28 GMT
Shocking result.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Apr 11, 2024 0:00:48 GMT
Just got back That was a painful experience Walking to the ground, all their fans were convinced they were going to lose and there was no noise from the home support until they were 2-0 up They were there for the taking, home fans would have turned given the slightest reason Having now seen the disallowed goal replay, Im even more disappointed and yes it might have evened things up but we were as bad as I have seen us in years I cant bring myself to give player ratings, it goes to show how bad we were that I was glad when Cundle came on* Thoroughly piddled off and I have to go into work in Swansea tomorrow. And I have fucking toothache fucking mint *that lasted about 2 minutes How did the fans react? That was a 'you're not fit to wear the shirt' level of performance.
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Post by peepin on Apr 11, 2024 4:32:01 GMT
Swansea 4 shots on target & score 3,we would need about 100 shots on target to score 3. For us to get 4 shots on target we would typically require 360 minutes of football.
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Post by Fred Merger on Apr 11, 2024 5:17:09 GMT
You sure? 1998 Birmingham City beat Stoke 7–0 at home which sparked ugly scenes from some angry supporters. Bates and Peter Coates left as Stoke headed for relegation. Chris Kamara came in but was sacked after winning just one of his 14 matches in charge. Former manager Alan Durban returned for the final few matches which saw Stoke needing to beat Manchester City on the final day to stay up. They lost 5–2 and fell into the third tier.[1] So, I was out by a year👍
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Post by nott1 on Apr 11, 2024 5:58:28 GMT
I still think Baker is our best midfielder, likely to score, can pass a ball and take set balls/corners/penalties better than any others. Why is he not starting, is Shuey sulking about something?
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Post by questionable on Apr 11, 2024 6:39:33 GMT
Went to bed pissed off and woke up thinking I’d dreamt that result and performance.
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 11, 2024 7:06:02 GMT
Turned the TV off after the third goal. Was expecting even worse this morning.
Disgusting performance.🥶
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 11, 2024 7:25:43 GMT
We didn't play well, but still I feel the ref cost us. With 1-1 at the break and a free kick instead of a penalty in the second half I think we could have got something from this game.
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Post by bloodtypered on Apr 11, 2024 7:38:03 GMT
We knew the ref was going pathetic before the game.
He has form
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Post by misterj on Apr 11, 2024 7:39:32 GMT
How was the Ennis goal disallowed? Why was it a penalty (for them?) Having said that, Stoke’s defending was absolutely woeful - Wilmot back on Saturday?
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Post by marwood on Apr 11, 2024 8:19:36 GMT
Just got back That was a painful experience Walking to the ground, all their fans were convinced they were going to lose and there was no noise from the home support until they were 2-0 up They were there for the taking, home fans would have turned given the slightest reason Having now seen the disallowed goal replay, Im even more disappointed and yes it might have evened things up but we were as bad as I have seen us in years I cant bring myself to give player ratings, it goes to show how bad we were that I was glad when Cundle came on* Thoroughly piddled off and I have to go into work in Swansea tomorrow. And I have fucking toothache fucking mint *that lasted about 2 minutes How did the fans react? That was a 'you're not fit to wear the shirt' level of performance. we were more vocal in our support than Swansea who were silent until 70th minute. There were a few angry shouts. I left on 87 minutes and I usually stay to clap the players when they come to the away end but on this rare occasion I didnt. I travelled there more in hope than anticipation, I attend that fixture every year and rarely come away with anything (last year was an exception) but even so that was an abject performance and a collapse by any standards
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Post by Veritas on Apr 11, 2024 8:22:57 GMT
How was the Ennis goal disallowed? Why was it a penalty (for them?) Having said that, Stoke’s defending was absolutely woeful - Wilmot back on Saturday? The key question for the Ennis "goal" is, was the ball dislodged from the keepers hands by Ennis head as he was getting up from the ground? Or was it due to the keeper bringing the ball down onto Ennis's head? If it was the first scenario then it is a challenge, albeit an unintentional one, by Ennis which is not allowed. Not as clear cut as I first thought and not sure even VAR would have overturned it. The penalty challenge was fractionally outside the area, a really difficult call for the ref who should have been helped out by his assistant. This would have been overturned by VAR. Defending was poor. Laurent played them onside for the first and a collection of errors for the third. Not sure Wilmot improves anything.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 11, 2024 8:28:37 GMT
How was the Ennis goal disallowed? Why was it a penalty (for them?) Having said that, Stoke’s defending was absolutely woeful - Wilmot back on Saturday? Still can't get my head around how you can foul someone when you are in front of them? The McNally penalty is a free kick to us, surely to God?
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Apr 11, 2024 8:31:22 GMT
Just got back That was a painful experience Walking to the ground, all their fans were convinced they were going to lose and there was no noise from the home support until they were 2-0 up They were there for the taking, home fans would have turned given the slightest reason Having now seen the disallowed goal replay, Im even more disappointed and yes it might have evened things up but we were as bad as I have seen us in years I cant bring myself to give player ratings, it goes to show how bad we were that I was glad when Cundle came on* Thoroughly piddled off and I have to go into work in Swansea tomorrow. And I have fucking toothache fucking mint *that lasted about 2 minutes ...and to think I was gutted I couldn't have got the time off! The flag would have been placed upside down last night as per European clubs to show a sign of disgust at what is being served. Never mind the fact that both trips to South Wales this season have resulted in the square root of fuck all
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 11, 2024 9:41:46 GMT
Jesus McMuffin replied to me. Maine---'That 'useless' defender Tymon had Meinhof in his pocket all match. JM -'He didn't be fair We had so little possession the last third Manhoef was the one player who looked like we might do something...and we took him off' I thought Tymon looked more dangerous as an attacker than Manhoef on the night, and controlled him defensively. However, I totally agree that Million shouldn't have been taken off. We have players including him and Junho and Burger, who may be playing poorly but are always capable of doing something. Replacing them, whilst keeping the likes of Laurent on, is simply bad management in my opinion. Let's not pretend Tymon is some kind of top player we wrongly sold. He saw the ball, Manhoef didn't as the possession clearly shows. He had no one in his pocket. Manhoef like anyone in our final third saw none of the ball as they simply bossed the midfield He didn't look dangerous , he did what he did for us. Saw a lot of the ball at times and did little with it. Manhoef the one player we should have kept on
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 11, 2024 9:59:23 GMT
How was the Ennis goal disallowed? Why was it a penalty (for them?) Having said that, Stoke’s defending was absolutely woeful - Wilmot back on Saturday? We are very poor at defending,but Wilmot will make it even worse,stats prove that when he plays.
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Post by silverdollar on Apr 11, 2024 14:15:30 GMT
Spurious referee decisions aside, that was a total dogshit performance to end all dogshit performances. Not really a single player looked up for it or even worthy of the shirt. I thought that Swansea played very well and took charge of the game. Hard as the Stoke players tried they could not compete. Ref didn't help when Ennis punished a GK mistake.
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