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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 8, 2024 9:07:52 GMT
Both need to be offered Steven’s one year and Thomson 2 with a one year option anyone whip thinks we can improve on them in an another summer of much movement is deluded not to mention both have gret attitudes and add steel we badly need
its the likes of Wesley , Johnson , vidigal , Haks , cuddle we need tp move on and weve got to replace hoover and Campbell and mcnally
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 8, 2024 9:11:16 GMT
Thompson is a no brainer, offers cover in a number of positions, would not be overly expensive and rarely let's the side down, wheres our captain strolls around without breaking a sweat and not tracking runners🤔 What positions? He is a very very limited midfielder who due to the fact that he is one of a few players at the club with a left foot has 'covered' at LB, and not very well on the whole. The 'rarely lets the side down' cliche doesnt wash either, what about the time he got sent off for being a bellend? Mainly though, he has been a large part of a terrible underperforming squad for a few seasons now, the message is clear - we need better. So limited that he was the player chosen over Burger and Baker on Saturday. Whatever you think of his abilities the coaching team obviously trust him to do the job. Reminds me a bit of how Oatcake posters used to talk about Whelan who also took up the unglamorous position of sitting deep. People always used to say he could only pass back or sideways too.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Apr 8, 2024 9:16:05 GMT
Both need to be offered Steven’s one year and Thomson 2 with a one year option anyone whip thinks we can improve on them in an another summer of much movement is deluded not to mention both have gret attitudes and add steel we badly need its the likes of Wesley , Johnson , vidigal , Haks , cuddle we need tp move on and weve got to replace hoover and Campbell and mcnally Its deluded to think we can't improve on a 33 year old who has spent the majority of the season injured? You sound ambitious.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 8, 2024 9:18:25 GMT
Both need to be offered Steven’s one year and Thomson 2 with a one year option anyone whip thinks we can improve on them in an another summer of much movement is deluded not to mention both have gret attitudes and add steel we badly need its the likes of Wesley , Johnson , vidigal , Haks , cuddle we need tp move on and weve got to replace hoover and Campbell and mcnally It’s deluded to think we can't improve on a 33 year old who has spent the majority of the season injured? You sound ambitious. We havent for 5 years he’d be an ideal squad player see Morgan fox. Same issue and we have mossed him no question
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Post by joinerssquire on Apr 8, 2024 9:36:20 GMT
It’s deluded to think we can't improve on a 33 year old who has spent the majority of the season injured? You sound ambitious. We havent for 5 years he’d be an ideal squad player see Morgan fox. Same issue and we have mossed him no question We have missed him mainly due to him being unfit/injured. What makes you think that’s going to improve next season?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 8, 2024 9:42:37 GMT
Stevens needs moving on, he's fit for a quarter of the season. Thompson i'd keep as he offers decent cover.
We need better first team quality in most areas to get us challenging nearer the top of the table.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 8, 2024 9:50:33 GMT
The only way I'd offer Thompson a new contract is if we're confident we can shift Ben Pearson. I'd rather keep JT out of the two but not sure how much sense it makes if Pearson is here.
Stevens' injury record this year answers that question. Good LB but not worth it based on this season.
People always get to this stage of the season and want players who've been poor to stay. Then moan when it's deja vu next time around.
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Post by mamathestriker on Apr 8, 2024 9:52:35 GMT
Stevens needs moving on, he's fit for a quarter of the season. Thompson i'd keep as he offers decent cover. We need better first team quality in most areas to get us challenging nearer the top of the table. We need 6 or 7 proper first team signings this summer, and supplement them with 3 or 4 decent loans. Then hopefully integrate Tezgel/Sidibe a bit more. Iverson/Bonham Tchamadeu/Gooch New CB/Wilmot New CB/Rose New LB/Stevens (or new LB) New DM/Thompson/Sidibe Burger/Laurent/Baker Junho/Mmaee/Baker Manhoef/new winger New winger/Junho New striker/new striker/Ennis/Tezgel Question marks over the futures of Vidigal, Mmaee, Campbell, Baker. Does Iverson stay? Do we try and keep McNally, Hoever and Cundle? A lot to sort out.
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Post by pez75 on Apr 8, 2024 9:53:27 GMT
What positions? He is a very very limited midfielder who due to the fact that he is one of a few players at the club with a left foot has 'covered' at LB, and not very well on the whole. The 'rarely lets the side down' cliche doesnt wash either, what about the time he got sent off for being a bellend? Mainly though, he has been a large part of a terrible underperforming squad for a few seasons now, the message is clear - we need better. So limited that he was the player chosen over Burger and Baker on Saturday. Whatever you think of his abilities the coaching team obviously trust him to do the job. Reminds me a bit of how Oatcake posters used to talk about Whelan who also took up the unglamorous position of sitting deep. People always used to say he could only pass back or sideways too. Baker is a fraud. The decision to put Burger on the bench (if he was fit) was a whopper and the outcome proved that? Whats your point? Cos he gets a game I'm wrong? Have you see the league table?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 8, 2024 9:55:19 GMT
We definitely need a proper "regular" left back in... and seen how other areas of the team also need improving, I'd offer Stevens a one year deal, as back up!!!
Thompson, I'd be happy giving him a two year deal as a squad player!!!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 10:23:56 GMT
Can't see the point in keeping Wilmot,stats show we are worse defensively when he plays.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Apr 8, 2024 10:36:43 GMT
Don't quite the antipathy towards Thompson - good utility player, covers numerous positions, does the dirty work unnoticed and without complaint.
Stevens however, we really should never be in the position again where our LB hopes are pinned on him - that is complete negligence. Not knocking the player, but his age and injury record just say 'no'.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 8, 2024 10:37:34 GMT
Can't see the point in keeping Wilmot,stats show we are worse defensively when he plays. Given we need two first choice CBs, I can understand keeping him, but if someone came in with an offer, you'd definitely listen to it wouldn't you. I don't think we'll want to be as busy as last summer so we'll inevitably end up keeping players who, in an ideal world, we'd be rid of at the first opportunity.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 10:40:44 GMT
Both need to be offered Steven’s one year and Thomson 2 with a one year option anyone whip thinks we can improve on them in an another summer of much movement is deluded not to mention both have gret attitudes and add steel we badly need its the likes of Wesley , Johnson , vidigal , Haks , cuddle we need tp move on and weve got to replace hoover and Campbell and mcnally Can't see Kompany playing McNally, would be onto Burnley asking how much
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 10:42:46 GMT
Can't see the point in keeping Wilmot,stats show we are worse defensively when he plays. Given we need two first choice CBs, I can understand keeping him, but if someone came in with an offer, you'd definitely listen to it wouldn't you. I don't think we'll want to be as busy as last summer so we'll inevitably end up keeping players who, in an ideal world, we'd be rid of at the first opportunity. If you include Hoever (& he's only been used in a 3) we have got away with using just 5 CB's this season and one of those was the appalling Clarke Want 4 bone fide Championship standard CB's in the squad next season as well as some actual left backs
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Apr 8, 2024 11:48:47 GMT
I like Thompson but what's the point in keeping players we know can't quite cut it at this level?
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Post by Kewstokie on Apr 8, 2024 11:56:59 GMT
We definitely need a proper "regular" left back in... and seen how other areas of the team also need improving, I'd offer Stevens a one year deal, as back up!!! Thompson, I'd be happy giving him a two year deal as a squad player!!! I agree with this. Will we go back in for LB Burrows at Peterbro’ (were we ever in for him before or just rumour)? Or is he attracting interest at a higher level. He was excellent in the EFL trophy final yesterday.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 8, 2024 12:10:30 GMT
50/50 re Thompson. Would play him any day over Pearson who we'll struggle to offload
Campbell can live with leaving as him and Wesley costing a hell of a lot would imagine.
Stevens I think we need to release, shame as was a great player. Cundle no , McNally replace
Need a left back , defensive midfielder and striker. CB and keeper on loan or perm maybe. Not over impressed with Iversen
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Post by ravey123 on Apr 8, 2024 12:35:29 GMT
50/50 re Thompson. Would play him any day over Pearson who we'll struggle to offload Campbell can live with leaving as him and Wesley costing a hell of a lot would imagine. Stevens I think we need to release, shame as was a great player. Cundle no , McNally replace Need a left back , defensive midfielder and striker. CB and keeper on loan or perm maybe. Not over impressed with Iversen We should be all in fir Viktor Johansen as our keeper next season
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 8, 2024 12:54:56 GMT
50/50 re Thompson. Would play him any day over Pearson who we'll struggle to offload Campbell can live with leaving as him and Wesley costing a hell of a lot would imagine. Stevens I think we need to release, shame as was a great player. Cundle no , McNally replace Need a left back , defensive midfielder and striker. CB and keeper on loan or perm maybe. Not over impressed with Iversen We should be all in fir Viktor Johansen as our keeper next season Absolutely, yep Well within our reach you'd think 1 year left on his contract I think
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Post by samdan on Apr 8, 2024 13:11:07 GMT
I never understand this argument. Even at 35 it’s not like they are too old to get another job. £200k a year invested correctly would mean he can have a nice house mortgage free and get a job he enjoys for the next 35 years. What gives sportsmen the right to expect to work until their 30s and then play golf for the rest of their life? Market value. Would you do your job for a fraction of what your market value is? He’s made it to a professional level in an industry that a tiny fraction of the population would ever get close to, and you don’t think he deserves the relatively basic pay he’s receiving? Sure, he can live comfortably on 200k a year, and pay off a decent home and invest a decent amount if he chooses to live frugally, and then go and get a regular job once he retires if he wants to maintain the same lifestyle. But let’s not pretend like he’s milking anyone with the money he’s making. It’s a relative pittance in the industry he’s working in. My argument is why does market forces dictate that much. All it’s does is push ticket prices and subscriptions up. Why anybody would be happy with that amazes me. I’ve nothing against Thompson earning what he can and I’d be happy for him to renew. He’s a decent utility player at this level with a great attitude even if he’s not good enough to command a regular starting place but that doesn’t change the fact that they are all disgustingly overpaid and should’t be earning a lifetimes wage in a 15 year career at the expense of Joe Public.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 14:49:19 GMT
Stevens needs moving on, he's fit for a quarter of the season. Thompson i'd keep as he offers decent cover. We need better first team quality in most areas to get us challenging nearer the top of the table. We need 6 or 7 proper first team signings this summer, and supplement them with 3 or 4 decent loans. Then hopefully integrate Tezgel/Sidibe a bit more. Iverson/Bonham Tchamadeu/Gooch New CB/Wilmot New CB/Rose New LB/Stevens (or new LB) New DM/Thompson/Sidibe Burger/Laurent/Baker Junho/Mmaee/Baker Manhoef/new winger New winger/Junho New striker/new striker/Ennis/Tezgel Question marks over the futures of Vidigal, Mmaee, Campbell, Baker. Does Iverson stay? Do we try and keep McNally, Hoever and Cundle? A lot to sort out. wouldn't sign any new central midfielders (would let DJ go a free) reduce asking price for Pearson (or get his body fit & head straight) Sol should be in the first team squad
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 14:51:44 GMT
We should be all in fir Viktor Johansen as our keeper next season Absolutely, yep Well within our reach you'd think 1 year left on his contract I think Given Leicester's money mess suspect Iverson would be a very simple deal ? how much would it take to get Johansen? should be very affordable
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 8, 2024 14:59:54 GMT
Absolutely, yep Well within our reach you'd think 1 year left on his contract I think Given Leicester's money mess suspect Iverson would be a very simple deal ? how much would it take to get Johansen? should be very affordable With a year left, I think is right, , Johansen should be in the 2.5 million range maybe at a wild guess Can see it being Iversen though
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Post by figo85 on Apr 8, 2024 15:17:44 GMT
I wouldn’t offer Thompson a set of Merlin sticker swaps, let alone a contract. He’s awful in every area and he moans his bag off. It would be interesting to hear a full breakdown of how the club caters to its blind fans. Apparently the experience has vastly improved. It’s probably a similar experience for crayon chewers as well?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 8, 2024 15:27:34 GMT
It would be interesting to hear a full breakdown of how the club caters to its blind fans. Apparently the experience has vastly improved. It’s probably a similar experience for crayon chewers as well? The red ones are my fave Thompson hasn't let us down. He's no left back but was asked to play there but in his natural role he's done more than ok . Personally rather he stayed than went.
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Post by figo85 on Apr 8, 2024 15:34:27 GMT
It’s probably a similar experience for crayon chewers as well? The red ones are my fave Thompson hasn't let us down. He's no left back but was asked to play there but in his natural role he's done more than ok . Personally rather he stayed than went. If we have any realistic hope of progression, considering Thompson a decent backup, isn’t going to reinforce our position at all.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 8, 2024 15:35:46 GMT
The red ones are my fave Thompson hasn't let us down. He's no left back but was asked to play there but in his natural role he's done more than ok . Personally rather he stayed than went. If we have any realistic hope of progression, considering Thompson a decent backup, isn’t going to reinforce our position at all. Would rather him on the pitch than that walking, lumbersome yellow card
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Post by loosestools on Apr 8, 2024 17:24:04 GMT
Re: Thompson. Every team needs an Eric Skeels type? Remember him, could play anywhere and never complained, never brilliant but solid.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 8, 2024 17:41:43 GMT
Only keep Thompson if we don’t find a replacement, and if that happens we’ll have arsed up a transfer window again.
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