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Post by dadofsam on Mar 15, 2024 7:31:42 GMT
What's behind his decision not to make himself available?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 15, 2024 7:33:33 GMT
He can't be arsed and the money compared to his arsenal salary ain't worth the bother?
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Post by Pirate on Mar 15, 2024 7:56:06 GMT
Think to be fair to him its more about the fact he just sits & watches, bit of a closed shop the England defense, Maguire never going to be dropped & he is probably 4th in line for right back at best?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 15, 2024 7:58:15 GMT
Think to be fair to him its more about the fact he just sits & watches, bit of a closed shop the England defense, Maguire never going to be dropped & he is probably 4th in line for right back at best? Yeah maybe. I'm indifferent to it all really as he's not required in reality. I mean its not like Kane or Bellingham not showing up. And as you say plenty of cover for his positions. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2024 8:08:01 GMT
Who cares?
And I mean that in the sense of it’s his choice leave him to it.
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Post by Gods on Mar 15, 2024 8:10:12 GMT
I must admit I've never heard of him!
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 15, 2024 9:35:13 GMT
Needs the time to work on his tan.
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Post by clivey05 on Mar 15, 2024 9:43:30 GMT
He’s had a fall out of Steve Holland at a previous camp. He doesn’t actually really like football, never watches it and openly says he struggles being away in England camps.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 15, 2024 10:19:08 GMT
He’s had a fall out of Steve Holland at a previous camp. He doesn’t actually really like football, never watches it and openly says he struggles being away in England camps. England have denied the Holland story, which probably means it's definitely true. In all honesty I have a bit of sympathy. You play all season and then you have to feck off on a 6 week training camp/tournament whilst all your pals who ain't good enough to get into the England team are in ibiza boozing and chasing tail. He'll probably regret it when he's older and we win a world cup or euro but fuck it go for the here and now 😆 And when we win fuck all he can sit back and think yep called that right 😆 |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 15, 2024 10:22:36 GMT
I must admit I've never heard of him! I bet you've heard of Ben Dover? 😏 |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 15, 2024 10:32:16 GMT
He’s had a fall out of Steve Holland at a previous camp. He doesn’t actually really like football, never watches it and openly says he struggles being away in England camps. England have denied the Holland story, which probably means it's definitely true. In all honesty I have a bit of sympathy. You play all season and then you have to feck off on a 6 week training camp/tournament whilst all your pals who ain't good enough to get into the England team are in ibiza boozing and chasing tail. He'll probably regret it when he's older and we win a world cup or euro but fuck it go for the here and now 😆 And when we win fuck all he can sit back and think yep called that right 😆 I've no sympathy. Millions of us dream of the chance to play for England and he turns it down. |
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Post by foster on Mar 15, 2024 10:38:37 GMT
No issue for me as he's down the pecking order. If he were first choice I might feel differently.
If he prefers to spend his time with his family and private life then fair enough.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 15, 2024 10:38:46 GMT
Don’t blame him. I wouldn’t want to spend my summers away from my family just to sit on a bench and hope the person in front of me gets injured. Seems like a waste of time.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 15, 2024 10:41:47 GMT
England have denied the Holland story, which probably means it's definitely true. In all honesty I have a bit of sympathy. You play all season and then you have to feck off on a 6 week training camp/tournament whilst all your pals who ain't good enough to get into the England team are in ibiza boozing and chasing tail. He'll probably regret it when he's older and we win a world cup or euro but fuck it go for the here and now 😆 And when we win fuck all he can sit back and think yep called that right 😆 I've no sympathy. Millions of us dream of the chance to play for England and he turns it down. I'm not aware he's asking for any sympathy is he? I obviously don't know the bloke and for all I know he could be really decent or a complete knob - but from comments made by his colleagues football is not the be all and end all to him. His has outside interests that he would rather pursue than spend time away from home as an unused squad member. His choice. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 15, 2024 11:10:52 GMT
England have denied the Holland story, which probably means it's definitely true. In all honesty I have a bit of sympathy. You play all season and then you have to feck off on a 6 week training camp/tournament whilst all your pals who ain't good enough to get into the England team are in ibiza boozing and chasing tail. He'll probably regret it when he's older and we win a world cup or euro but fuck it go for the here and now 😆 And when we win fuck all he can sit back and think yep called that right 😆 I've no sympathy. Millions of us dream of the chance to play for England and he turns it down. Yeah I get that side of it as well. But he doesn't want to play for them. So what is there to do? He may well regret it in time when he views life from a different age. Also he sounds like he'd be a bit of a distraction and potential mood killer in the camp so best he stays at home. |
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 15, 2024 11:41:08 GMT
All of a sudden Arsenal’s socials have gone into absolute Ben White overdrive these last two days, posting about 6 of these gushing, in-depth “appreciation” posts. Don’t know if that’s normal for them when a bloke signs a new contract but it all seems a bit strange, almost creepy to me. All because he said he didn’t want an England call-up..
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Post by bassmaster on Mar 15, 2024 11:42:58 GMT
Ben Orange.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Mar 15, 2024 11:43:20 GMT
I must admit I've never heard of him! I bet you've heard of Ben Dover? 😏 Ben " White Cliffs of " Dover. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 15, 2024 11:52:38 GMT
I've no sympathy. Millions of us dream of the chance to play for England and he turns it down. I'm not aware he's asking for any sympathy is he? I obviously don't know the bloke and for all I know he could be really decent or a complete knob - but from comments made by his colleagues football is not the be all and end all to him. His has outside interests that he would rather pursue than spend time away from home as an unused squad member. His choice. No I was referring to Mickeys comments. I'm sure he isn't after sympathy, has other interests etc. But I think you have a duty in that position to represent your country and all the hopes and dreams of the millions who didn't get that chance, and not be a selfish prick |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 15, 2024 12:32:10 GMT
I'm not aware he's asking for any sympathy is he? I obviously don't know the bloke and for all I know he could be really decent or a complete knob - but from comments made by his colleagues football is not the be all and end all to him. His has outside interests that he would rather pursue than spend time away from home as an unused squad member. His choice. No I was referring to Mickeys comments. I'm sure he isn't after sympathy, has other interests etc. But I think you have a duty in that position to represent your country and all the hopes and dreams of the millions who didn't get that chance, and not be a selfish prick We'll have to agree to disagreebecause I don't think you're under any obligation whatsoever. It's putting people under that pressure to represent you and calling them 'selfish pricks'that fucks wuth people's heads and contribute to nental health issues. It's ab astounding arrogance to believe you own someone just because they can kick a ball better than you. Where I would if from that is if he starts to try abd pick and choose his ganes. If you're out you're out. |
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Post by Ron on Mar 15, 2024 12:37:01 GMT
Isn't he rather disinterested in football outside of playing? i rate him as a player. Thought he'd end up at CB for England when he was hitting form at Leeds, but he's done v well at RB for Arsenal to the extent we couldn't pick him ahead of others at CB.
He's not the first, and wont be the last, who won't want to go away with squads only to not get a game.
Don't blame him.
Nothing worse than a manger who picks favorites irrespective of form.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 15, 2024 12:38:39 GMT
I'm not aware he's asking for any sympathy is he? I obviously don't know the bloke and for all I know he could be really decent or a complete knob - but from comments made by his colleagues football is not the be all and end all to him. His has outside interests that he would rather pursue than spend time away from home as an unused squad member. His choice. No I was referring to Mickeys comments. I'm sure he isn't after sympathy, has other interests etc. But I think you have a duty in that position to represent your country and all the hopes and dreams of the millions who didn't get that chance, and not be a selfish prick Not so sure Can understand some not wanting to play International football to be honest The ex Netherlands player Dirk Nanninga had the right idea. Sometimes he said no as had to work in his wife's flower shop. He also scored in a WC final and flew home straight after to go back to work in the shop |
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Post by greenhoff on Mar 15, 2024 12:42:31 GMT
I'm not aware he's asking for any sympathy is he? I obviously don't know the bloke and for all I know he could be really decent or a complete knob - but from comments made by his colleagues football is not the be all and end all to him. His has outside interests that he would rather pursue than spend time away from home as an unused squad member. His choice. No I was referring to Mickeys comments. I'm sure he isn't after sympathy, has other interests etc. But I think you have a duty in that position to represent your country and all the hopes and dreams of the millions who didn't get that chance, and not be a selfish prick You have a duty??? It’s football not the defence of the realm. Personally I don’t get the international thing. Club football is far more important to me. If he doesn’t want to play fair dos to him. I |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 15, 2024 13:16:18 GMT
He's got his reasons, bugger all to do with anyone else.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 15, 2024 15:16:34 GMT
He would have made himself available but had already booked sunbeds for the days in question and he needs to keep that tan topped up.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 15, 2024 15:33:21 GMT
This is about as much of a story as when Jamie "I play a few minutes here and there for England, if they're desperate through injuries" Carragher retired from international football.
Bloke who's third choice at best for the national side doesn't want to be called up for the national side and waste his time playing 12 minutes at the end of the game when he knows he'll never make the first team anyway SHOCK EXCLUSIVE!
I might let Gareth know im not interested in being called up either.
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Post by Pricey on Mar 15, 2024 18:48:22 GMT
Football is just a job to him isn't it? I think that's probably the reason. He doesn't get to play very much for England and he doesn't get paid very much for it. Why bother if you're not interested in football outside of making a wage?
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Post by bingbang on Mar 15, 2024 19:01:14 GMT
Football is just a job to him isn't it? I think that's probably the reason. He doesn't get to play very much for England and he doesn't get paid very much for it. Why bother if you're not interested in football outside of making a wage? Absolutely right, he doesn't like football so why would you want to do overtime if you don't need the money. Balotelli was the same. |
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Post by gaznandi on Mar 21, 2024 8:44:44 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 21, 2024 8:56:17 GMT
David Batty was another who didn’t actually like football, he also just enjoyed playing it…..he loved motorcycle sports I used to hang around with a lad in my younger days who was the same, never watched it on the tv, never supported a club but was an excellent midfielder who loved playing football Funny old world |
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