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Post by henry on Mar 23, 2024 22:26:37 GMT
I'm confused, probably as I don't keep up with the news atm, I thought it was a random person who sent in the video to a newspaper? What's the big deal with Kates photo apart from a bit of editing she did? The photo in the car who actually released it abd wasn't it confirmed that it was a wall and a building behind. Meghan Markle isn't a royal is she? Charles wants to break down barriers for men to get checked out early, what Kate had done is quite private for some women, it's what makes a woman in some eyes. I have no idea who sent the video from the UFO camera. Where we provided a source? The media were happy to publicise it as evidence she is alive and well carrying heavy bags after abdominal surgery and undergoing cancer treatment. The big deal with the photo is its manipulated to the tenth degree. Not a bit of airbrushing to cover up your acne but articles of clothing missing, misaligned clothing, randomly blurred parts. The metadata showed the image was saved multiple times on Adobe photoshop on a mac book over a series of days. That's not amateur editing on a phone, that's editing at a more professional level. I know many people who maybe use an Instagram filter or put their camera in beauty mode. The amateur photographer however does not tend to use photoshop and when they do they usually focus on their face not the clothing. I know many people have faced cancer, some who wanted people to know some who didn't. I don't know any which were spending days on photoshop creating a fake image, something they don't tend to do on a normal day, to feel normal because of their cancer. At the end of the day the Royal photographer himself even said the media withdrawing the release of a photo was something new. When they put one out at Christmas with an extra leg and missing finger it was still released. Maybe because of that previous image they scrutinised this one more. I don't know who released the picture in the car. I do know it was absolutely not evidence in anyway and I do know our main stream media seemed to want to make it headline news as evidence all is well and good. Who released it as you seem to be keeping up quite well on this news? What the royals and the media did was release a series of manipulated or difficult to identify photos/videos of her over a fortnight period. With photos withdrawn my American counterparts for the first time due to manipulation. This thread wasn't made as a "oh we've not seen Kate in months where is she?". This thread was made as a result of manipulated pictures being released. That was the cause and that should rightly be discussed. The new video has no mole on her face, looks grainy, appears to have a static background, her eyebrow looks weird compared to the genuine "just a few filters" picture released 10 days earlier. Her striped tee shirt even gives a reflection onto a bench. I presume because after a series of manipulated media being released that we now have another dubious video saying she has cancer that means anyway questioning is an embarrassing anti royal traitor who should accept the latest news and not query it. I know all about the little boy who cried wolf and kates cancer may be true but it also may not be true. You don't know and I don't know. But I'm skeptical and I don't really give a shit about what people think because of that. Meghan Markle is part of the Royal family and those who defend the royals and call us anti royalists. No shocker I am opposed to the royal family (doesn't mean I wish death upon them). It seems they're also anti royalists themselves when they say "she's not a nice person" and "only in it for the money". I haven't seen anyone in this thread accuse Kate of either of those? So I don't find it genuine when I see posters who are happy to make personal allegations about the motives of other members of the royal family with no evidence then call those who are talking about proven manipulated images (note images not individual) as evil anti royals with an agenda. It is double standards and I'll call it out. What about the coronavirus thread filled with skeptics and so it should be. I presume those who are skeptical are all an embarrassing stain to society too? Let's not forget how many people lost their lives to this virus. And here we have these evil posters vilified by their own self interests of being right that they continue to pursue their "conspiracies" over a sensitive discussion where many people died. Should they be embarrassed? I don't think they should. They're right to question it. So am I wrong to query if there's a double standard? Not at all. That doesn't make them self righteous, desperate to be right, embarrassing or anything else. They're just being true to themselves. Dare to show concern for Kate after a load of photoshopped images = Very bad anti royalist who hates them all and wants them to die and is desperate to be self righteously correct. Catch yourself on. There's plenty of reason to be skeptical. And I don't feel the tiniest bit of guilt or shame for being skeptical - neither will I be made to feel that way either. I really hope Kate is OK and I hope she lives a long and healthy life. Preferably one not funded by the tax payer as much as it is. But as a person, I wish her well. But I am still concerned about her whereabouts and health and I'm still unsure after the most recent video. With all my heart I hope we see her make public appearances again soon and to put all this tk bed. But there is still a part of me which isn't sure. And I feel I wouldn't be surprised to hear she has died in the future and if we did that would further heighten my doubts. And in regards to the last paragraph. No, I'm not desperate to be right. I hope I'm wrong. But I'll continue to do my own due diligence and I don't really care if some people want to label me as something else for doing that. Are you suggesting it was filmed indoors, with insects flying around the foreground ? Whats wrong with her eyebrow ?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 23, 2024 22:30:37 GMT
Oh please, come off it. If I said "bloody hell Fozzy you've made yourself look a right dick there!" Then actually, I'm not suggesting that you are indeed a right dick?
I'm sure you've suggested that about me in various forms Paul. If we're playing the 'show me a quote' game then Fel hasn't actually called you anything, but I'm willing to debate if you show me where he's actually called you something. Otherwise I think it's poor form to accuse someone of something they haven't said. But hey, if it's any consolation I'll admit that I've come across as a bit of a twat a few times....Shit happens. Just be thankful that you're not one of the 2 or 3 on here that come across as twats 100% of the time. Foster, you’re better than that. Etc etc……..
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 22:34:46 GMT
Millsy, you're better than that. Instead of being vague, call out exactly who you are talking about. I will ... Cobham is forever suggesting that people should have respect for other posters and that there are no need for personal insults on here but he's more than happy to 'like' a thread littered with personal insults because it suits his viewpoint. That is the very definition of hypocrisy. How can you describe 'respecting the forum' as bullshit? I've already explained to you that I haven't even read all of wannabe's posts, yet it seems now, that you're happy to completely disregard that reply from me to you as being irrelevant, in some bizarre attempt to point score. What lack of consistency and what true colours am I displaying? Examples please, or is it ok now to suggest whatever you like on the Oatcake, without having to remotely justify your position?
Well, ok then I'll call you out on your lack of consistency. You were the one talking about the importance of respecting the forum, yet seem happy to allow others to make things up and intentionally misrepresent posts, which is far more disrespectful to the forum than someone simply not complying with your demands.. I told you about it, yet you couldn't be bothered to even look at it (which is strange when you're using "respecting the forum" as some kind of a way to guilt people into playing by the rules You want to play by). I then even tagged you in one of them so you had no excuse to conveniently not see it, just to see if again you'd just be silent and surprise, surprise.... yet more silence from you. You were only bothered about "respecting the forum" when you couldn't get the answer you wanted from BJR. Amazing (and convenient) how you never saw any of those other posts though, despite the fact it's your thread which you've been on every day and made far more posts on than anyone else and apparently you're offended by people not "respecting the forum". You can't have it both ways. I'll also call out gawa who apparently just doesn't want anyone to be ganged up on, yet happily sits back and watches others be "ganged up on" in any political thread, unless it's someone he agrees with. I just expect the both of you to actually be consistent if you're going to try to use those things as some kind of way to play the victim or to get people to play by your rules. Obviously, you don't have to defend people you don't agree with but equally therefore,no one has to believe you're really fighting for any kind of fairness or respect when you're being so selective over who you do or don't defend. You're calling other people virtue signallers, whilst plainly and clearly merely virtue signalling yourself about your concern for "respecting the forum". Great post. and yes, Gawa is a Judas, but under that layer of betrayal he's decent enough. More like a mini-Judas, virgin-Judas, or baby-Judas really.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2024 22:34:50 GMT
Millsy, you're better than that.
Instead of being vague, call out exactly who you are talking about.
I will ...
Cobham is forever suggesting that people should have respect for other posters and that there are no need for personal insults on here but he's more than happy to 'like' a thread littered with personal insults because it suits his viewpoint.
That is the very definition of hypocrisy.
How can you describe 'respecting the forum' as bullshit?
I've already explained to you that I haven't even read all of wannabe's posts, yet it seems now, that you're happy to completely disregard that reply from me to you as being irrelevant, in some bizarre attempt to point score.
What lack of consistency and what true colours am I displaying?
Examples please, or is it ok now to suggest whatever you like on the Oatcake, without having to remotely justify your position?
Well, ok then I'll call you out on your lack of consistency. You were the one talking about the importance of respecting the forum, yet seem happy to allow others to make things up and intentionally misrepresent posts. I told you about it, yet you couldn't be bothered to even look at it (which is strange when you're using "respecting the forum" as some kind of a way to guilt people into playing by the rules You want to play by). I then even tagged you in one of them so you had no excuse to conveniently not see it, just to see ig again youd just be silent and sudprise, surprise yet more silence from you. You were only bothered about "respecting the forum" when you couldn't get the answer you wanted from BJR. Amazing (and convenient) how you never saw any of those other posts though, despitiven the fact it's your thread which you've been on every day and made far more posts on than anyone else and apparently you're offended by people not "respecting the forum". You can't have it both ways. I'll also call out gawa who apparently just doesn't want anyone to be ganged up on, yet happily sits back and watches others be "ganged up on" in any political thread, unless it's someone he agrees with. I just expect the both of you to actually be consistent if you're going to try to use those things as some kind of way to play the victim or to get people to play by your rules. Obviously, you don't have to defend people you don't agree with but equally therefore,no one has to believe you're really fighting for any kind of fairness or respect when you're being so selective over who you do or don't defend. You're calling other people virtue signallers, whilst plainly and clearly merely virtue signalling yourself about your concern for "respecting the forum".
Mate I think it's basic good etiquette to be able to explain why you're making accusations on a public forum and no, I don't think it's okay to say, I don't have to tell you, it's my opinion. But hey, that just me, I guess. I wouldn't remotely say such things without being prepared to stand by my comments, I'd like to think that I have at least a modicum of respect for the people I'm engaging with.
I genuinely think that public message boards would collapse if this was the accepted norm.
Your suggestion that my opinion is somehow compromised because I don't read every post that other people make, is utterly gob smacking, I'm genuinely disappointed in you. I'm not wannabee's keeper FFS. I really am utterly dumbfounded by you.
So, in order to try and address your bigger point ...
Me and Badger disagree on most things politically and me and Oggy tend to be pretty closely aligned.
However, when Oggy was piling into Badger, I called him out because I thought what he was doing was wrong and he certainly wasn't respecting the forum. And I spent a whole evening defending Badger because I believed that it was the right thing to do, I don't care about alliances.
So, why would I even do that, if I'm as shallow as you're suggesting?
I couldn't give two shits about being in a clique, defending the group, frantically pm'ing other forum members or wanting to be liked. I express my opinions on here as I (and that's the important bit) see fit and I genuinely believe that I try to interact with consistency, integrity and honesty at all times.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2024 22:39:10 GMT
Oh please, come off it. If I said "bloody hell Fozzy you've made yourself look a right dick there!" Then actually, I'm not suggesting that you are indeed a right dick?
I'm sure you've suggested that about me in various forms Paul. If we're playing the 'show me a quote' game then Fel hasn't actually called you anything, but I'm willing to debate if you show me where he's actually called you something. Otherwise I think it's poor form to accuse someone of something they haven't said. But hey, if it's any consolation I'll admit that I've come across as a bit of a twat a few times....Shit happens. Just be thankful that you're not one of the 2 or 3 on here that come across as twats 100% of the time.
Not really sure how to respond to that but it's certainly worthy of an exact 27k post!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 23, 2024 22:47:05 GMT
Well, ok then I'll call you out on your lack of consistency. You were the one talking about the importance of respecting the forum, yet seem happy to allow others to make things up and intentionally misrepresent posts. I told you about it, yet you couldn't be bothered to even look at it (which is strange when you're using "respecting the forum" as some kind of a way to guilt people into playing by the rules You want to play by). I then even tagged you in one of them so you had no excuse to conveniently not see it, just to see ig again youd just be silent and sudprise, surprise yet more silence from you. You were only bothered about "respecting the forum" when you couldn't get the answer you wanted from BJR. Amazing (and convenient) how you never saw any of those other posts though, despitiven the fact it's your thread which you've been on every day and made far more posts on than anyone else and apparently you're offended by people not "respecting the forum". You can't have it both ways. I'll also call out gawa who apparently just doesn't want anyone to be ganged up on, yet happily sits back and watches others be "ganged up on" in any political thread, unless it's someone he agrees with. I just expect the both of you to actually be consistent if you're going to try to use those things as some kind of way to play the victim or to get people to play by your rules. Obviously, you don't have to defend people you don't agree with but equally therefore,no one has to believe you're really fighting for any kind of fairness or respect when you're being so selective over who you do or don't defend. You're calling other people virtue signallers, whilst plainly and clearly merely virtue signalling yourself about your concern for "respecting the forum".
Mate I think it's basic etiquette to be able to explain why you're making accusations on public forum and no, I don't think it's okay to say, I don't have to tell you, it's my opinion. But hey, that just me, I guess. I wouldn't remotely say such things without being prepared to stand by my comments, I'd like to think that I have at least a modicum of respect for the people I'm engaging with.
I genuinely think that public message boards would collapse if this was the accepted norm.
Your suggestion that my opinion is somehow compromised because I don't read every post that other people make, is utterly gob smacking, I'm genuinely disappointed in you. I'm not wannabee's keeper FFS. I really am utterly dumbfounded by you.
So, in order to try and address your bigger point ...
Me and Badger disagree on most things politically and me and Oggy tend to be pretty closely aligned.
However, when Oggy was piling into Badger, I called him out because I thought what he was doing was wrong and he certainly wasn't respecting the forum. And I spent a whole evening defending Badger because I believed that it was the right thing to do, I don't care about alliances.
So, why would I even do that, if I'm as shallow as you're suggesting?
I couldn't give two shits about being in a clique, defending the group, frantically pm'ing other forum members or wanting to be liked. I express my opinions on here as I (and that's the important bit) see fit and I genuinely believe that I try to interact with integrity and honesty at all times.
So if you try to interact with honesty and integrity at all times, why are you so offended at someone calling you out when you've acted otherwise on this thread? Surely, constructive criticism should be welcomed if it helps you to keep that integrity? Personally, if someone (yourself) uses "respecting the forum" as a reason be upset and truly believes that to be incredibly important and for that very reason someone else then directs you to a poster who's disrespected the forum by doing something worse, i'd say it's basic forum etiquette to at least comment on them also to show consistency in your message that it truly is the importance of respecting the forum that's at the heart of your concern. Selectively levelling that criticism only at certain people will convince very few people that you're truly interested in "respecting the forum". Surely you can see how that comes across, even if that wasn't your intention?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 23, 2024 22:47:20 GMT
Nobody has actually spoken about Kate whatever her 2nd name is for pages now. Just saying 😆 But carry on this is highly entertaining 😆
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 23, 2024 22:51:29 GMT
Well, ok then I'll call you out on your lack of consistency. You were the one talking about the importance of respecting the forum, yet seem happy to allow others to make things up and intentionally misrepresent posts, which is far more disrespectful to the forum than someone simply not complying with your demands.. I told you about it, yet you couldn't be bothered to even look at it (which is strange when you're using "respecting the forum" as some kind of a way to guilt people into playing by the rules You want to play by). I then even tagged you in one of them so you had no excuse to conveniently not see it, just to see if again you'd just be silent and surprise, surprise.... yet more silence from you. You were only bothered about "respecting the forum" when you couldn't get the answer you wanted from BJR. Amazing (and convenient) how you never saw any of those other posts though, despite the fact it's your thread which you've been on every day and made far more posts on than anyone else and apparently you're offended by people not "respecting the forum". You can't have it both ways. I'll also call out gawa who apparently just doesn't want anyone to be ganged up on, yet happily sits back and watches others be "ganged up on" in any political thread, unless it's someone he agrees with. I just expect the both of you to actually be consistent if you're going to try to use those things as some kind of way to play the victim or to get people to play by your rules. Obviously, you don't have to defend people you don't agree with but equally therefore,no one has to believe you're really fighting for any kind of fairness or respect when you're being so selective over who you do or don't defend. You're calling other people virtue signallers, whilst plainly and clearly merely virtue signalling yourself about your concern for "respecting the forum". Great post. and yes, Gawa is a Judas, but under that layer of betrayal he's decent enough. More like a mini-Judas, virgin-Judas, or baby-Judas really. Never met with gawa or Paul but imagine they're both great blokes. In fact (without getting all misty eyed about it), Paul's probably the poster I agree with most on here in general on threads. I certainly agree with virtually all of their standpoints on most issues I've seem them post on. None of what I've said about either of them is a personal attack or judging them as people, it's simply calling out hypocrisy or lack of consistency where i see it. I've never said those things about either before because I haven't seen those things from either before, but when it does happen it should be called out, whether I like someone or not. I do it with my best mates in real life and they do the same in return. It doesn't mean i suddenly dislike them as people
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 22:56:26 GMT
Great post. and yes, Gawa is a Judas, but under that layer of betrayal he's decent enough. More like a mini-Judas, virgin-Judas, or baby-Judas really. Never met with gawa or Paul but imagine they're both great blokes. I certainly agree with virtually all of their standpoints on most issues I've seem them post on. None of what I've said about either of them is a personal attack or judging them as people, it's simply calling out hypocrisy or lack of consistency where i see it. I've never said those things about either beforr because I haven't seen those things from either before, but when it does happen it should be called out, whether I like someone or not. I do it with my best mates in real life and they do the same in return. Never met Paul but I can tell you that Gawa is a spitting image of the bloke that betrayed Jesus. Both good posters.....even if they make themselves look like twats at times (that's a joke)
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2024 22:57:12 GMT
Nobody has actually spoken about Kate whatever her 2nd name is for pages now. Just saying 😆 But carry on this is highly entertaining 😆
It's quite sad really, this thread was twelve pages long at tea time yesterday but it has since been invaded by a complete load of total waffle.
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 22:58:36 GMT
I'm sure you've suggested that about me in various forms Paul. If we're playing the 'show me a quote' game then Fel hasn't actually called you anything, but I'm willing to debate if you show me where he's actually called you something. Otherwise I think it's poor form to accuse someone of something they haven't said. But hey, if it's any consolation I'll admit that I've come across as a bit of a twat a few times....Shit happens. Just be thankful that you're not one of the 2 or 3 on here that come across as twats 100% of the time. Not really sure how to respond to that but it's certainly worthy of an exact 27k post! I was about to call you lightweight before I realised that you were actually referring to my post count I should post more.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 23, 2024 22:59:10 GMT
Never met with gawa or Paul but imagine they're both great blokes. I certainly agree with virtually all of their standpoints on most issues I've seem them post on. None of what I've said about either of them is a personal attack or judging them as people, it's simply calling out hypocrisy or lack of consistency where i see it. I've never said those things about either beforr because I haven't seen those things from either before, but when it does happen it should be called out, whether I like someone or not. I do it with my best mates in real life and they do the same in return. Never met Paul but I can tell you that Gawa is a spitting image of the bloke that betrayed Jesus. Both good posters.....even if they make themselves look like twats at times (that's a joke) You're a dick for saying that last line.....or did you just act like a dick? We all make ourselves look like twats on here at times. God knows, me probably more than most!
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 23:01:43 GMT
1 Nobody has actually spoken about Kate whatever her 2nd name is for pages now. Just saying 😆 But carry on this is highly entertaining 😆 It's quite sad really, this thread was twelve pages long at tea time yesterday but it has since been invaded by a complete load of total waffle.
Total waffle sounds like a great new variation of wordle. You should maybe copywrite it. To be fair, the last 12 pages has been infinitely more entertaining. It probably wouldn't have gotten past 2 pages if it stuck on topic.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2024 23:02:00 GMT
Mate I think it's basic etiquette to be able to explain why you're making accusations on public forum and no, I don't think it's okay to say, I don't have to tell you, it's my opinion. But hey, that just me, I guess. I wouldn't remotely say such things without being prepared to stand by my comments, I'd like to think that I have at least a modicum of respect for the people I'm engaging with.
I genuinely think that public message boards would collapse if this was the accepted norm.
Your suggestion that my opinion is somehow compromised because I don't read every post that other people make, is utterly gob smacking, I'm genuinely disappointed in you. I'm not wannabee's keeper FFS. I really am utterly dumbfounded by you.
So, in order to try and address your bigger point ...
Me and Badger disagree on most things politically and me and Oggy tend to be pretty closely aligned.
However, when Oggy was piling into Badger, I called him out because I thought what he was doing was wrong and he certainly wasn't respecting the forum. And I spent a whole evening defending Badger because I believed that it was the right thing to do, I don't care about alliances.
So, why would I even do that, if I'm as shallow as you're suggesting?
I couldn't give two shits about being in a clique, defending the group, frantically pm'ing other forum members or wanting to be liked. I express my opinions on here as I (and that's the important bit) see fit and I genuinely believe that I try to interact with integrity and honesty at all times.
So if you try to interact with honesty and integrity at all times, why are you so offended at someone calling you out when you've acted otherwise on this thread? Surely, constructive criticism should be welcomed if it helps you to keep that integrity? Personally, if someone (yourself) uses "respecting the forum" as a reason be upset and truly believes that to be incredibly important and for that very reason someone else then directs you to a poster who's disrespected the forum by doing something worse, i'd say it's basic forum etiquette to at least comment on them also to show consistency in your message that it truly is the importance of respecting the forum that's at the heart of your concern. Selectively levelling that criticism only at certain people will convince very few people that you're truly interested in "respecting the forum". Surely you can see how that comes across, even if that wasn't your intention?
Says who?
How and when have I acted without honesty and integrity on this thread?
Who has called me out for doing so and in what way have I been so offended?
Don't just ignore the Badger/Oggy example that I've given you because it completely debunks your 'theory'.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 23, 2024 23:05:56 GMT
Nobody has actually spoken about Kate whatever her 2nd name is for pages now. Just saying 😆 But carry on this is highly entertaining 😆
It's quite sad really, this thread was twelve pages long at tea time yesterday but it has since been invaded by a complete load of total waffle.
Ah Paul but it's the oatcake. Its what we all do to greater or lesser degree. And at some point we are all hypocrites somewhere along the line. As long as it never gets too personal its all good fun. We live to fight another day 😊 And as an anecdote I don't agree with all your viewpoints but I do have to say I remember in lockdown you posted one on a BLM thread that was one of the best thread ending posts I ever read.......sadly it didn't end the thread. But that's because its the oatcake, its what we all do 😆 🤣
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 23, 2024 23:05:59 GMT
Nobody has actually spoken about Kate whatever her 2nd name is for pages now. Just saying 😆 But carry on this is highly entertaining 😆
It's quite sad really, this thread was twelve pages long at tea time yesterday but it has since been invaded by a complete load of total waffle.
Agreed. More than happy to drop it to be honest as I have no grudges or ill feeling towards you and our "beef" is pretty much just revolving around semantics and pettiness now. You've been respectful (as usual) in your posts and replies and although I didn't see the need for a new thread, you did and thats fine to disagree on that. You also (unlike some) stuck to your OP of stating concern about the media etc. rather than speculate, cast aspersions and spread rumours. As I said earlier in the thread, they're the ones I had a problem with, so it's daft to be spamming the thread with our tittle tattle.
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 23:06:19 GMT
Never met Paul but I can tell you that Gawa is a spitting image of the bloke that betrayed Jesus. Both good posters.....even if they make themselves look like twats at times (that's a joke) You're a dick for saying that last line.....or did you just act like a dick? We all make ourselves look like twats on here at times. God knows, me probably more than most! I was literally a man sized phallus acting like a normal sized phallus when I wrote that.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 23, 2024 23:11:07 GMT
It's quite sad really, this thread was twelve pages long at tea time yesterday but it has since been invaded by a complete load of total waffle.
Agreed. More than happy to drop it to be honest as I have no grudges or ill feeling towards you and our "beef" is pretty much just revolving around semantics and pettiness now. You've been respectful (as usual) in your posts and replies and although I didn't see the need for a new thread, you did and thats fine to disagree on that. You also (unlike some) stuck to your OP of stating concern about the media etc. rather than speculate, cast aspersions and spread rumours. As I said earlier in the thread, they're the ones I had a problem with, so it's daft to be spamming the thread with our tittle tattle. Peace is breaking out hurrah 😆 Gutted actually as it was getting good 😆
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 23, 2024 23:12:57 GMT
So if you try to interact with honesty and integrity at all times, why are you so offended at someone calling you out when you've acted otherwise on this thread? Surely, constructive criticism should be welcomed if it helps you to keep that integrity? Personally, if someone (yourself) uses "respecting the forum" as a reason be upset and truly believes that to be incredibly important and for that very reason someone else then directs you to a poster who's disrespected the forum by doing something worse, i'd say it's basic forum etiquette to at least comment on them also to show consistency in your message that it truly is the importance of respecting the forum that's at the heart of your concern. Selectively levelling that criticism only at certain people will convince very few people that you're truly interested in "respecting the forum". Surely you can see how that comes across, even if that wasn't your intention?
Says who?
How and when have I acted without honesty and integrity on this thread?
Who has called me out for doing so and in what way have I been so offended?
Don't just ignore the Badger/Oggy example that I've given you because it completely debunks your 'theory'.
You acted without honesty or integrity by only selectively accusing certain people of disrespecting the forum, when it had been pointed out to you that others had disrespected it also. That doesn't mean you don't have honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it here when you had been directly informed of your inconsistency. And your actions re: badger and oggy (worryingly, that autocorrects to "orgy") doesn't "debunk" anything, as I never said you didn't have any honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it in this instance. Again, they're 2 different things. P.S. to clarify, in general I think you're very honest as a person (from what I see on here) and definitely have integrity. Me pointing out one instance where you didn't show that, doesn't suddenly change that opinion or define you as a compeltely different person.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2024 23:15:47 GMT
Says who?
How and when have I acted without honesty and integrity on this thread?
Who has called me out for doing so and in what way have I been so offended?
Don't just ignore the Badger/Oggy example that I've given you because it completely debunks your 'theory'.
You acted without honesty or integrity by only selectively accusing certain people of disrespecting the forum, when it had been pointed out to you that others had disrespected it also. That doesn't mean you don't have honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it here when you had been directly informed of your inconsistency. And your actions re: badger and oggy (worryingly, that autocorrects to "orgy") doesn't "debunk" anything, as I never said you didn't have any honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it in this instance. Again, they're 2 different things.
FFS, you're just acting like a complete dick now, in my humblest of opinions of course ...
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 23:18:09 GMT
Says who? How and when have I acted without honesty and integrity on this thread? Who has called me out for doing so and in what way have I been so offended? Don't just ignore the Badger/Oggy example that I've given you because it completely debunks your 'theory'. You acted without honesty or integrity by only selectively accusing certain people of disrespecting the forum, when it had been pointed out to you that others had disrespected it also. That doesn't mean you don't have honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it here when you had been directly informed of your inconsistency. And your actions re: badger and oggy (worryingly, that autocorrects to "orgy") doesn't "debunk" anything, as I never said you didn't have any honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it in this instance. Again, they're 2 different things. Just want to add that Orgyorgy is actually a more accurate reflection of his lifestyle. He hasn't posted here since yesterday. I wonder why? wink wink.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 23, 2024 23:19:02 GMT
You acted without honesty or integrity by only selectively accusing certain people of disrespecting the forum, when it had been pointed out to you that others had disrespected it also. That doesn't mean you don't have honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it here when you had been directly informed of your inconsistency. And your actions re: badger and oggy (worryingly, that autocorrects to "orgy") doesn't "debunk" anything, as I never said you didn't have any honesty or integrity, simply that you didn't display it in this instance. Again, they're 2 different things.
FFS, you're just acting like a complete dick now, in my humblest of opinions of course ... Does that mean I AM a dick?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2024 23:20:48 GMT
FFS, you're just acting like a complete dick now, in my humblest of opinions of course ... Does that mean I AM a dick?
Just acting like one pal, just acting like one ...
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 23:25:30 GMT
Agreed. More than happy to drop it to be honest as I have no grudges or ill feeling towards you and our "beef" is pretty much just revolving around semantics and pettiness now. You've been respectful (as usual) in your posts and replies and although I didn't see the need for a new thread, you did and thats fine to disagree on that. You also (unlike some) stuck to your OP of stating concern about the media etc. rather than speculate, cast aspersions and spread rumours. As I said earlier in the thread, they're the ones I had a problem with, so it's daft to be spamming the thread with our tittle tattle. Peace is breaking out hurrah 😆 Gutted actually as it was getting good 😆 It's a typical situation on here. Arguments break out on Friday and by the end of the weekend people are fed up of fighting and just want to make up. It's good fun and a positive bonding experience Edit. When Fel dies I can imagine Paul saying to his kids... 'you remember when Fel called me a twat? That was fucking hilarious. One of the best days of my life'.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 24, 2024 1:05:58 GMT
Nobody has actually spoken about Kate whatever her 2nd name is for pages now. Just saying 😆 But carry on this is highly entertaining 😆 It's quite sad really, this thread was twelve pages long at tea time yesterday but it has since been invaded by a complete load of total waffle.
It's a thing of beauty. Although I respectfully suggest that the entire thread is a complete load of total waffle, in light of the reality of the situation.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 24, 2024 1:18:12 GMT
There was an interesting discussion last night on the negative role that social media has had on this sorry affair on Channel 5 news. Not content on accepting that this is a young woman with three young children who's had a major operation immediately followed by a Palace Press Release in an attempt to stop the rumour mill followed by another press release to say that she wouldn't be appearing publicly until after Easter Social Media and it's swathes of morons went into overdrive. Even the most stupid of people out there could probably add two and two together and work out that it was serious. It's my opinion that you've added to this with a pathetic thread about a doctored photo who really fucking cares? It had the correct mother and the correct three children in it is your life really so empty that it's important enough to keep plugging it for 12 pages despite the fact that a few people on here have alluded to health issues, medical privacy, dealing with young children, etc, etc For anyone that doesn't know there's a facility on here that if you press on the number of posts it gives you the chief culprits. I pressed on that before I made the above post last night and saw that you were way out ahead of the crowd bumping it along merrily. Personally my own opinion is I think that this thread has made you look a bit of a twat but of course it's only my opinion and I can't prove it. I also suspect that I'm not the only one but of course I can't prove that either. Have a good day unlike the suffering Kate. Swathes of morons Even the most stupid of people Pathetic thread Empty life Bit of a twat Is there any need for all the personal insults and abuse? Care to elaborate. I don't get it. Do we each add a line to continue crafting the song? Gawa, as the incipient poster, did you intend for a band to deliver the message or a solo artist? In my minds eye I see an impassioned George Michael breaking his heart over those words for a suitably respectful live audience. However somebody else may see them being snarled by some sort of punk/Mark E Smith type character?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 24, 2024 1:25:20 GMT
Saw all these supporting World of Twist in the early 90s. Great bands. Surely that was a Festival? Borefest perhaps? I used to knock about with the original bass player from Swathes of Morons when we were at college together. He's a university lecturer and part time DJ now.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 24, 2024 2:09:03 GMT
This is something I’ve noticed a lot on the Oatcake. Regardless of whether you dislike someone for justifiable reasons the need to call someone a T*@t isn’t a great look. I’m not sure whether it’s said to say that they hate someone more than the next person but for me there’s too much hate in the world, isn’t easier to just disagree or dislike especially if you’ve never met the person in question. He didn't call him a twat Gawa. He said he made himself look like one, in his opinion. Big difference. Exactly. Good try though Paul. edit The minuscule bit that you’ve highlighted wasn’t the bit that i liked (and I don’t think you’re a twat)it was the majority of the post that I agreed with. Anyone maybe it’s time to move on now and just wish Kate the best in her long fight ahead in what must be an awful time for her and her family.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 24, 2024 2:12:49 GMT
He didn't call him a twat Gawa. He said he made himself look like one, in his opinion. Big difference. Exactly. Good try though Paul. Good try what? Why are you liking posts by somebody insulting people? I thought you were against that type of thing.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 24, 2024 2:16:49 GMT
Exactly. Good try though Paul. Good try what? Why are you liking posts by somebody insulting people? I thought you were against that type of thing. See my edit
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