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Post by xchpotter on Mar 9, 2024 14:44:38 GMT
Have to get at least a point. We don’t want to start edging towards needing two results before we move a place.
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 9, 2024 14:46:17 GMT
Im a bigot lost on how they will line up but ive no issue woht Campbell its just he need another up- top with him so if Ennis is injured Mmaee or Wesley as it is lloks like another strange formation Brave to admit that on here but fair play
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Post by spoton on Mar 9, 2024 14:46:37 GMT
He's bottled it today and gone 5 at the back... Why? Manhoef has looked like our biggest threat along with Junho Junho I agree but not Manhoef looks very week on his right foot and yes he cuts in well but end shots very poor
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Post by foster on Mar 9, 2024 14:48:55 GMT
Prefer Manhoef and Ennis so hope they come on when Preston are tired.
Though I doubt Campbell is going to run their defence ragged.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 9, 2024 14:50:50 GMT
It’s a poor line up. No goals again in that starting XI.
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Post by jokker on Mar 9, 2024 14:53:11 GMT
Big risk by the manager. Just as I think we have found a solid formation, we start tinkering with it. It's not really "tinkering", if injuries/fatigue force his hand.
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Post by spitshaw on Mar 9, 2024 14:54:31 GMT
Campbell will score today
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Post by thornestein on Mar 9, 2024 14:58:13 GMT
Big risk by the manager. Just as I think we have found a solid formation, we start tinkering with it. It's not really "tinkering", if injuries/fatigue force his hand. they’re on the bench so are fit enough
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 9, 2024 15:00:01 GMT
Also notice Johnson not even on the bench
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Post by twobanksoffour on Mar 9, 2024 15:02:28 GMT
Also notice Johnson not even on the bench I don't think he's make the bench the last few games. Whether he is on the naughty step or just not good enough, I'm not sure. Either's feasible!
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 9, 2024 15:06:24 GMT
Not happy with this, prove me wrong lads!
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Post by jokker on Mar 9, 2024 15:46:18 GMT
It's not really "tinkering", if injuries/fatigue force his hand. they’re on the bench so are fit enough Make that: They are fit enough to be on the bench.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 9, 2024 17:00:56 GMT
Campbell is not a lone striker, why have so many managers failed to work this out. Until my stream died, I thought he lead the line quite well so here to tell my past self to shut up.
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Post by lordb on Mar 9, 2024 17:03:44 GMT
Credit to Schumacher change in system worked
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 9, 2024 17:06:23 GMT
Campbell is not a lone striker, why have so many managers failed to work this out. Until my stream died, I thought he lead the line quite well so here to tell my past self to shut up. My speciality is being proved wrong by Stoke players, so you'll have to put in a bit more effort to get up my level. But yes, I think Campbell did really well today.
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Post by LphPotter on Mar 9, 2024 17:10:36 GMT
Schumacher got it absolutely spot on, to restrict them to just 3 shots in the whole game was superb and we were more than enough of a threat going forwards
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 9, 2024 17:12:06 GMT
Campbell is not a lone striker, why have so many managers failed to work this out. Until my stream died, I thought he lead the line quite well so here to tell my past self to shut up. Agreed. Ran the spaces well
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 10, 2024 0:11:52 GMT
I suspect Ennis and probably Manhoeff aren"t fit to start after two tough matches in a week so it's safety first. Campbell won't press like Ennis and Vidigal is the only wide option which weakens us defensively so we are relying on our fullbacks to attack the wide areas. Just out of interest who is the u21s player that we are supposed to include or does Junho count as that? I just noticed Wes is in instead of Lowe not fit excuse is poor in my eyes , there professional sportsman men that are supposed to athletic, barring a slight injury it should never be used Ennis definitely had a slight problem with his calf so sensible precaution and some would say Campbell should make us better and is more likely to score. Manhoeff was obviously the victim for going with three centre backs
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 10, 2024 6:54:20 GMT
It's quite amusing seeing all these Einstein's pull apart Schumacher's tactics only for us to be by far the best team. It just shows Schumacher knows what he is doing, he some times gets it wrong it happens to all managers but just shows it's best to go with the flow and see how the game plays out rather than judge before we have even kicked a ball
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 10, 2024 7:00:14 GMT
Interesting points about Campbell. He was given dogs abuse in the away end and ironically cheered off when subbed.
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Post by frasier37 on Mar 10, 2024 8:05:47 GMT
I don't think Campbell had a great game in all honesty, but neither did many others. I really feel sick to the stomach to be sitting in and amongst the away end and hear the shit he as a stoke player is given huge sarcastic cheers as he leaves. "HES FUCKIN SHIT, GET HIM OUT. HES BONE FUCKING IDLE. JUMP YOU BONE IDLE BASTARD" Thats the way we we back the team when we are fighting for survival. His miss on goal was met with..."fuckin useless, fuck him off. Jun ho shoots tamely.....unlucky son
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Post by emretezzy on Mar 10, 2024 8:30:09 GMT
I don't think Campbell had a great game in all honesty, but neither did many others. I really feel sick to the stomach to be sitting in and amongst the away end and hear the shit he as a stoke player is given huge sarcastic cheers as he leaves. "HES FUCKIN SHIT, GET HIM OUT. HES BONE FUCKING IDLE. JUMP YOU BONE IDLE BASTARD" Thats the way we we back the team when we are fighting for survival. His miss on goal was met with..."fuckin useless, fuck him off. Jun ho shoots tamely.....unlucky son I feel sick to the stomach watching him think he's too good for Stoke over the last 4 years. The club will be in a better position once they get players who actually want to be here playing.
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 10, 2024 8:31:24 GMT
Campbell was OK yesterday. Could have done better with his first half chance, but let’s face it, no one else at the club would have got a shot away from where he started.
He gets stick from people who decided years ago that he’s shite and lazy. Aside from scoring a couple every game, he will not change their views.
Imagine the hate he’d have got if he’d fucked the chance Ennis had at the end.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 10, 2024 8:38:52 GMT
It's quite amusing seeing all these Einstein's pull apart Schumacher's tactics only for us to be by far the best team. It just shows Schumacher knows what he is doing, he some times gets it wrong it happens to all managers but just shows it's best to go with the flow and see how the game plays out rather than judge before we have even kicked a ball Thought we were good yesterday but what it did show is 1- How many games are settled by positive breaks (An OG and a fluke from a set piece). 2- That we’re clearly lacking a goalscorer and don’t look like scoring from open play and it’s clear in the players actions when they get in on goal. We’ve had little luck this season so it was about time we got some yesterday (we deserved it as they were poor) but the same problems are still there. That said I’d rather be lucky and win Norwich will be a whole lot tougher than Preston so let’s hope we can raise our game for them. The good thing is that we’re playing as a team now. We can’t rely on goals and flukes every game though I’ll take them every time.
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 10, 2024 22:23:59 GMT
It's quite amusing seeing all these Einstein's pull apart Schumacher's tactics only for us to be by far the best team. It just shows Schumacher knows what he is doing, he some times gets it wrong it happens to all managers but just shows it's best to go with the flow and see how the game plays out rather than judge before we have even kicked a ball Thought we were good yesterday but what it did show is 1- How many games are settled by positive breaks (An OG and a fluke from a set piece). 2- That we’re clearly lacking a goalscorer and don’t look like scoring from open play and it’s clear in the players actions when they get in on goal. We’ve had little luck this season so it was about time we got some yesterday (we deserved it as they were poor) but the same problems are still there. That said I’d rather be lucky and win Norwich will be a whole lot tougher than Preston so let’s hope we can raise our game for them. The good thing is that we’re playing as a team now. We can’t rely on goals and flukes every game though I’ll take them every time. Where were the flukes? Gooch put a great ball across for the first goal which was really difficult to defend so there's every chance it would have been converted regardless of the defender. The second goal was great positioning by McNally, he was there in the space to toe it home. There's no luck in those goals.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 10, 2024 22:58:40 GMT
Thought we were good yesterday but what it did show is 1- How many games are settled by positive breaks (An OG and a fluke from a set piece). 2- That we’re clearly lacking a goalscorer and don’t look like scoring from open play and it’s clear in the players actions when they get in on goal. We’ve had little luck this season so it was about time we got some yesterday (we deserved it as they were poor) but the same problems are still there. That said I’d rather be lucky and win Norwich will be a whole lot tougher than Preston so let’s hope we can raise our game for them. The good thing is that we’re playing as a team now. We can’t rely on goals and flukes every game though I’ll take them every time. Where were the flukes? Gooch put a great ball across for the first goal which was really difficult to defend so there's every chance it would have been converted regardless of the defender. The second goal was great positioning by McNally, he was there in the space to toe it home. There's no luck in those goals. The first was an own goal. Granted it was great play by Gooch but the Preston player put the ball in his own net. (I didn’t describe it as a fluke if you read my post. But we still needed the defender to put it in his own net). The second bounced off McNally. Having seen it a few times I’m not convinced he knew too much about it. No doubt we deserved it as we were the better side but there was an element of luck to both goals something we haven’t had a lot of this season. It’s still a concern that our finishing / confidence in front of goal isn’t great. We need someone to step up and get 3-4 by the end of the season.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 11, 2024 1:21:56 GMT
I don't think Campbell had a great game in all honesty, but neither did many others. I really feel sick to the stomach to be sitting in and amongst the away end and hear the shit he as a stoke player is given huge sarcastic cheers as he leaves. "HES FUCKIN SHIT, GET HIM OUT. HES BONE FUCKING IDLE. JUMP YOU BONE IDLE BASTARD" Thats the way we we back the team when we are fighting for survival. His miss on goal was met with..."fuckin useless, fuck him off. Jun ho shoots tamely.....unlucky son I feel sick to the stomach watching him think he's too good for Stoke over the last 4 years. The club will be in a better position once they get players who actually want to be here playing. I think that's unfair. He had a horrible injury just as he was playing his best football probably in the best team we've had since we came down. So much expectation was put on him coming back so he was expected to be the reincarnation immediately whilst still a young and inexperienced player. I know from having heard a player who suffered the same injury talking about his own comeback, saying it took him two years to trust his body again and although he didn't suffer a recurrence of the injury it was always in the back of his mind as when he first got the injury it had been a very innocuous incident. Campbell has never shown anything but goodwill towards the club, been supportive of his teammates and pleasant to the fans. He needs confidence and having the sort of abuse he seems to be getting from a large section of the fans is just embarrassing. I don't think it was what Jon Walters had in mind when he asked us to be loud the other week. All I can say is that those fans are showing very little support for the club. As well as Campbell, they have booed off Hoever, Gayle (notice he's scored two in three for Derby) and I'm sure others - Wilmot, Pearson, Bonham, Thompson have all suffered from audible groans during a game that I can think of.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 11, 2024 3:53:39 GMT
Not happy with this, prove me wrong lads! They proved me wrong! Fucking great feeling
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