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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 3, 2024 23:05:41 GMT
As owners we could also have far better. It's 50/50 really isn't it? That's a chance I'm willing to take and as such, I want them out. Its a tough one. The thought of having a Sheff Wed/Blackburn/Reading type owner doesnt bear thinking about And the problem with a Foreign owner is even if it starts off well, once they lose interest things can deteriorate quickly. For all their faults, the Coates’ will always have the best interests of the club at heart, even if god forbid we did go down. Not sure its a risk Id be as willing to take. That said, things need to change with how the club is run We couldn't have better intentioned owners and that's process the issue is thet need a proper executive team to run it Off the pitch things have improved noticeably it's Martins area that is the issue all football related matters
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Post by Davef on Feb 3, 2024 23:08:46 GMT
Its a tough one. The thought of having a Sheff Wed/Blackburn/Reading type owner doesnt bear thinking about And the problem with a Foreign owner is even if it starts off well, once they lose interest things can deteriorate quickly. For all their faults, the Coates’ will always have the best interests of the club at heart, even if god forbid we did go down. Not sure its a risk Id be as willing to take. That said, things need to change with how the club is run We couldn't have better intentioned owners and that's process the issue is thet need a proper executive team to run it Off the pitch things have improved noticeably it's Martins area that is the issue all football related matters How have things improved noticeably off the pitch?
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Post by samba :) on Feb 4, 2024 0:18:30 GMT
I’m certain he influences the style of play these managers bring in
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Post by tuum on Feb 4, 2024 3:56:27 GMT
Yeah I dont want them out cause as owners we could have far worse. However think they need to bring someone in to run the club on their behalf. The last 6 years have been unacceptable As owners we could also have far better. It's 50/50 really isn't it? That's a chance I'm willing to take and as such, I want them out. It's not a chance I am willing to take. I want them in.
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Post by headsgoup on Feb 4, 2024 8:45:16 GMT
With FFP they can't really spend their money, and they seem unable to modernise the club's structure.
What do we have to lose?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 4, 2024 8:47:06 GMT
With FFP they can't really spend their money, and they seem unable to modernise the club's structure. What do we have to lose?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 4, 2024 9:28:25 GMT
A, Do we want multi billionaires who don't have a clue on how to run a football club.
B,Not so rich owners who do know how to run a football club.
I would like an option C, mega rich owners who know what they're doing,but that's not going to happen,unless option A change their ways.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 4, 2024 10:07:30 GMT
Jon Coates is not cut out to run a football club, he needs replacing with someone who knows how to run a business.
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Post by loosestools on Feb 4, 2024 10:09:16 GMT
Sell the club to the Venky's. Then you will know what shit ownership can be like.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 4, 2024 10:47:43 GMT
Begs the question why is he at the ground and not Bet365 HQ? I don’t think you need to be Einstein to work that one out do you? Out of the way as couldn’t run a bath! He does a day a week or less at the football club. Day to day is the responsibility of the 3 senior managers.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 4, 2024 10:54:14 GMT
Begs the question why is he at the ground and not Bet365 HQ? I don’t think you need to be Einstein to work that one out do you? Out of the way as couldn’t run a bath! He is co-CEO at bet365.
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Post by Ron on Feb 4, 2024 11:07:25 GMT
The vast majority on here wanted a Director of Football and a recruitment guru. The vast majority on here applauded the signing of players who had no experience of Championship football. John Coates has only done what the vast majority of posters thought was the right thing to do. there nothing wrong with the approach… but you need to employ people who have a track record of success at doing what they do. Plus- you need to get the right mix of experience and newcomers to the league. We don’t have a leader on that pitch for example. I also question if they have looked into players backgrounds etc. I don’t know where we go from here other than a few years stuck in league 1. The only hope is that this Million youth is a world beater.
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Post by Ron on Feb 4, 2024 11:11:36 GMT
The other thing is that he seems to get sucked in my hangers on who don’t know what they’re doing. He needs to start listening to proper football people- not Dublin, Martin , Freeth and the rest of his 365 chums. People who’ve played the game, managed in the game. There’s room for stats people and recruitment in that way is fine- but there’s more to it than looking at some stats etc.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 4, 2024 11:15:13 GMT
When asked what he looks for in a player, a previous manager answered 3 things, Character, Character and Character. I’m struggling to find any in this bunch, although John Coates is a character isn’t he…..
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 4, 2024 11:15:19 GMT
The vast majority on here wanted a Director of Football and a recruitment guru. The vast majority on here applauded the signing of players who had no experience of Championship football. John Coates has only done what the vast majority of posters thought was the right thing to do. Yes, but PLEASE appoint your OWN man to be technical director John, who will be loyal only to you. DON’T accept the mate of the previous manager that you’ve just sacked, on their suggestion. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
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Post by anchorman on Feb 4, 2024 11:16:30 GMT
Begs the question why is he at the ground and not Bet365 HQ? I don’t think you need to be Einstein to work that one out do you? Out of the way as couldn’t run a bath! He is co-CEO at bet365. Name only
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 4, 2024 12:51:29 GMT
The vast majority on here wanted a Director of Football and a recruitment guru. The vast majority on here applauded the signing of players who had no experience of Championship football. John Coates has only done what the vast majority of posters thought was the right thing to do. there nothing wrong with the approach… but you need to employ people who have a track record of success at doing what they do. Plus- you need to get the right mix of experience and newcomers to the league. We don’t have a leader on that pitch for example. I also question if they have looked into players backgrounds etc. I don’t know where we go from here other than a few years stuck in league 1. The only hope is that this Million youth is a world beater. Even if he is, he can’t carry the entire club.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 4, 2024 12:54:51 GMT
He's caught between a rock and a hard place now. He employed Martin on Neil's suggestion. Martin will be on big money, he can't afford to sack him sadly. SS would have been better off with his DOF from Plymouth, but that would have been too much upheaval.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Feb 4, 2024 13:02:30 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 4, 2024 13:03:39 GMT
The only answer that those who think the current hierarchy is great is to name a shit chairman elsewhere.
Lots of clubs have great chairmen and leaders. Lots.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 4, 2024 13:03:59 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say We'll soon be in League One BECAUSE of the Coates family.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 4, 2024 13:19:22 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say They took us to the third tier once, and are doing so again. Look at their overall record in charge.....they got lucky with two or three managers over three decades. John hasn't a clue, and yet because of his surname and free buses, he gets zero accountability. Apathy is the opposite of love, not hate. Apathy kills football clubs. The last thing we need is a free pass to anyone at that football club. Those moaning do so because they care. More and more are walking away in silence. Oh, and it's Jeff.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 4, 2024 13:39:18 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say They took us to the third tier once, and are doing so again. Look at their overall record in charge.....they got lucky with two or three managers over three decades. John hasn't a clue, and yet because of his surname and free buses, he gets zero accountability. Apathy is the opposite of love, not hate. Apathy kills football clubs. The last thing we need is a free pass to anyone at that football club. Those moaning do so because they care. More and more are walking away in silence. Oh, and it's Jeff. We went into the third tier under Peter Coates twice. John’s aiming for the hat trick.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Feb 4, 2024 13:44:30 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say The exact kind of supporter that is actually killing the club. Clueless and deluded, just sitting back and lapping it all up like everything’s fine. Ironic that this bloke probably thinks that his support for SCFC is second to none - you’re wrong mate! Wake up and start pointing the finger of blame, because that’s what we need to be doing as fans! What we are being served up is nothing short of a disgrace.
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Post by pushon on Feb 4, 2024 14:27:56 GMT
If John Coates decided to withdraw Bet365 support from Stoke City then we'd be well and truly stuffed.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 4, 2024 14:43:18 GMT
If John Coates decided to withdraw Bet365 support from Stoke City then we'd be well and truly stuffed. We are four points from the drop zone though. It's not like we are four points from the playoffs and fans are acting like spoilt brats is it? It has been shit for a long time now and the fact we still get the gates we do amazes me to be honest. The ground at full time yesterday said it all to me and made me quite sad. It was empty bar for a few thousand and a full away end cheering their team off after another shit home display. With the money and facilities we possess we should be competing at the top of this league and we would be if we had someone running the club who knew how to but we have John Coates. I don't want the owners gone but for fuck sake get someone at the top who knows how to run a football club.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Feb 4, 2024 16:50:20 GMT
Time to put this thread to Shit Bin --Jeff
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Post by skip on Feb 4, 2024 17:16:34 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family. How do you know that?
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Post by anchorman on Feb 4, 2024 17:24:13 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say Wow!
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Post by matelot1996 on Feb 4, 2024 17:32:59 GMT
We would be in division 2 without the Coates Family - so many ungrateful “so called supporters” with shit for brains - “Unbelievable Geoff” as Kammy would say Could you honestly say at this moment in time it is inconceivable that we won’t be a Div 2 club in the next 5 years? What would it take for some fans to accept that our Billionaire owners are clueless? They are financing the shortfalls which they created. It has to end in tears unfortunately.
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