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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 2, 2024 16:24:41 GMT
Everyone is available for the right price aren’t they. The few ‘untouchables’ the article is referring to will just be players that the fans would be upset if they were sold and are actually good enough that we want them to stay where possible so Burger, Bae, Junior. The rest of the squad fall into the ‘meh’ category for me where it wouldn’t bother me at all if they did leave. 100% of the players would be available at the right price. Do we really think if someone came in with a £30m bid for Burger we would turn them down? Yeah we wouldn’t turn down bids like that. I read it more that we were desperate to improve the squad so from the real standout performers anyone was available if it bought in funds we can use to get others in.
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Post by a on Feb 2, 2024 16:26:14 GMT
So we did try to push Mmaee out when he didn’t want to go? What a mess. If true I can see a player not wanting to try (cue the jibes that it’ll be no different!)
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Post by matelot1996 on Feb 2, 2024 16:28:31 GMT
If reports are true, so far SS has publicly expressed a desire to get rid of Pearson, Johnson, Mmae, Wesley, Gayle and maybe others? Don’t think this season will end well now. Big Questions over man management already for me. Good luck to him though for having the balls to call out those who aren’t doing it.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 2, 2024 16:31:10 GMT
100% of the players would be available at the right price. Do we really think if someone came in with a £30m bid for Burger we would turn them down? Yeah we wouldn’t turn down bids like that. I read it more that we were desperate to improve the squad so from the real standout performers anyone was available if it bought in funds we can use to get others in. and that's the same for any Championship team with FFP you would imagine. If you want to improve the squad you have to get other players out unless maybe like Leicester you are pretty confident about going up.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 2, 2024 16:33:49 GMT
If reports are true, so far SS has publicly expressed a desire to get rid of Pearson, Johnson, Mmae, Wesley, Gayle and maybe others? Don’t think this season will end well now. Big Questions over man management already for me. Good luck to him though for having the balls to call out those who aren’t doing it. He definitely gave the strong impression after the Sunderland game that he had lost his composure, that's for sure. Gotta hope he's sufficiently inspiring to make emotions like that work for a positive outcome with the squad in general but to get to that point publicly at such an early point in his tenure was somewhat oddOf course it's often TRUE to say that righteous anger is a vehicle for positive change!
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Post by LphPotter on Feb 2, 2024 16:34:56 GMT
If reports are true, so far SS has publicly expressed a desire to get rid of Pearson, Johnson, Mmae, Wesley, Gayle and maybe others? Don’t think this season will end well now. Big Questions over man management already for me. Good luck to him though for having the balls to call out those who aren’t doing it. When has Schumacher publicly said any of that?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 2, 2024 16:39:19 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?! Would we notice any difference
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Post by somersetpotter on Feb 2, 2024 16:43:49 GMT
If reports are true, so far SS has publicly expressed a desire to get rid of Pearson, Johnson, Mmae, Wesley, Gayle and maybe others? Don’t think this season will end well now. Big Questions over man management already for me. Good luck to him though for having the balls to call out those who aren’t doing it. “If reports are true” and “publicly expressed” are mutually exclusive mate. There’s been a lot of desperate housewives style gossiping on the board during the window and a lot of that bs is starting to turn itself into fact. Let’s give them some room to breathe and back Schuey to turn it around.
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Post by baconburger on Feb 2, 2024 16:47:11 GMT
Mmaae wanted to stay,but will he put the effort in knowing we tried to sell him?! Well he didn’t before we tried to sell him so maybe it will have given him a wake up call.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 2, 2024 16:59:57 GMT
The most interesting line
The incomings paint an overall picture of success for Stoke and relieve pressure on Director of Football Ricky Martin from inside the club.
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Post by wazbagsbro on Feb 2, 2024 17:00:35 GMT
So we did try to push Mmaee out when he didn’t want to go? What a mess. I suggest this is bullshit . Someone made an offer , his agent told him but he turned it down as he knows we are on the up and will end up in the premier. Stoke we’re happy with this. Nothing to see here
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Post by march4 on Feb 2, 2024 19:27:40 GMT
Shades of Moxey and Brum 97' Great. Interesting Plymouth were interested in a loan for Mmaee, who are apparently still overseen by Neil Dewsnip who was credited with a lot for his work with Schumacher. Hmmm.... We have to hope that Dewsnip wasn’t as important to Schumacher as Harford was to Jones I fear he is.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 19:31:04 GMT
We have to hope that Dewsnip wasn’t as important to Schumacher as Harford was to Jones I fear he is. Time will tell on that March
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 2, 2024 19:54:19 GMT
I still think Schumacher will like Campbell. He needs a good run without injuries, much like the new signing from Blackburn. A side with Ennis, Campbell and Million should have lots of pace to trouble opponents, which is a stark contrast to the rest of the side.
I wonder if he's being offered a new deal? Even if they don't meet the valuation, it would be strange to turn down bids without intending to use him, offer him a new deal or both.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 2, 2024 19:56:53 GMT
I still think Schumacher will like Campbell. He needs a good run without injuries, much like the new signing from Blackburn. A side with Ennis, Campbell and Million should have lots of pace to trouble opponents, which is a stark contrast to the rest of the side. I wonder if he's being offered a new deal? Even if they don't meet the valuation, it would be strange to turn down bids without intending to use him, offer him a new deal or both. Judging by his comments in today’s press conference I very much doubt it Talking about Million “he’s a left footed forward player that we’re sort of missing “
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 2, 2024 20:16:43 GMT
Surprised nobody took a punt on Campbell - We have a few players that can be quality on their day, Campbell is one, and we need a manager who can bring the best out of what we have - our new managers motivation tactics are leaving a bit to be desired on that score for me.
Rather not here we are a selling club, personally makes me lose interest even more. We are apparently out of the woods with FFP and have extremely wealthy owners - so I would rather here we will be trying to keep our best assets at all costs - unless the club thinks that 80% of their assets are shite - in which case I kind of agree with them
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Post by prettything on Feb 2, 2024 20:16:55 GMT
Have Teamtalk got anything right these last few windows?
I will take the article with a rather large helping of salt.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 2, 2024 20:18:53 GMT
We're near the bottom of the Championship of course about 80% of the squad are for sale. Our position states we need improvements. There will be players that will work harder and those that don't work hard enough. If players want to be part of Schumacher's plans then it's simple, work your nuts off and prove it to him.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 2, 2024 20:33:00 GMT
No smoke without fire , another sign the five pillars have collapsed , chiquino failed as a cultural architect and now we’ve confirmation from the rest of football we signed a load of dross last summer and gave some utterly unmerited contracts.
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Post by retrostoke on Feb 2, 2024 21:05:33 GMT
I still think Schumacher will like Campbell. He needs a good run without injuries, much like the new signing from Blackburn. A side with Ennis, Campbell and Million should have lots of pace to trouble opponents, which is a stark contrast to the rest of the side. I wonder if he's being offered a new deal? Even if they don't meet the valuation, it would be strange to turn down bids without intending to use him, offer him a new deal or both. You have to earn a new contract. Effort, commitment and end product. It’s February and at the moment it’s 0/3. Strike rate is slightly over 1 in 5. Enough is enough
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2024 21:31:41 GMT
No smoke without fire , another sign the five pillars have collapsed , chiquino failed as a cultural architect and now we’ve confirmation from the rest of football we signed a load of dross last summer and gave some utterly unmerited contracts. A cultural architect is an old head and good pro to help the younger lads (and yes I know it's management speak nonsense) but it most definitely isn't Chiquino.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 2, 2024 21:32:32 GMT
The most interesting line The incomings paint an overall picture of success for Stoke and relieve pressure on Director of Football Ricky Martin from inside the club. They won’t relieve any pressure if results don’t improve RM is the natural point of focus for frustrated owners given they can hardly blame the manager at this point
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 2, 2024 21:52:49 GMT
No smoke without fire , another sign the five pillars have collapsed , chiquino failed as a cultural architect and now we’ve confirmation from the rest of football we signed a load of dross last summer and gave some utterly unmerited contracts. Teams will always send a list of players out on deadline day of who is available Using a story from Teamtalk which is clearly clickbait to back up your latest agenda ...never mind Is a sign of absolutely nothing Of course will be players we don't want, same as any club
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Post by Old School Stokie on Feb 2, 2024 22:05:40 GMT
Bit late to announce that, when it should have been around 1st January - SCFC sale of the season - it’s obvious that some of the team are not buying in to “hard work” Mmaee top of that list
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 2, 2024 22:27:07 GMT
No smoke without fire , another sign the five pillars have collapsed , chiquino failed as a cultural architect and now we’ve confirmation from the rest of football we signed a load of dross last summer and gave some utterly unmerited contracts. It's a transfer window, there's always smoke without fire 😂
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 2, 2024 22:30:48 GMT
No smoke without fire , another sign the five pillars have collapsed , chiquino failed as a cultural architect and now we’ve confirmation from the rest of football we signed a load of dross last summer and gave some utterly unmerited contracts. It's a transfer window, there's always smoke without fire 😂 Doesn't suit his latest attempt
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Post by i1da on Feb 2, 2024 23:36:44 GMT
Let’s face it, unless you are the league’s top scorer playing in a team that’s pushing for promotion, you are available at the right price. For Stoke (as in all teams), there are only a few players whose value may skyrocket versus what they would get if they sold them now. Selling players isn’t a marker of a poor signing. Erm .... not even then! If we get out the old time machine, I'm sure we'll see Stoke managed to sell a key striker just as we were pushing for promotion?
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Post by independent on Feb 2, 2024 23:47:00 GMT
Let’s face it, unless you are the league’s top scorer playing in a team that’s pushing for promotion, you are available at the right price. For Stoke (as in all teams), there are only a few players whose value may skyrocket versus what they would get if they sold them now. Selling players isn’t a marker of a poor signing. No it isn't, but being unable to get anyone willing to buy your players definitely is.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 3, 2024 0:48:51 GMT
Let’s face it, unless you are the league’s top scorer playing in a team that’s pushing for promotion, you are available at the right price. For Stoke (as in all teams), there are only a few players whose value may skyrocket versus what they would get if they sold them now. Selling players isn’t a marker of a poor signing. No it isn't, but being unable to get anyone willing to buy your players definitely is. Not really, maybe those interested couldn't afford the asking or the wages etc.
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Post by Ron on Feb 3, 2024 7:09:24 GMT
If true then we’re fucked… I can see a very bad ending to this season.
I hope Im wrong but this hardly motivates players does it??
Just hope he can get those he wants playing how he wants and to a good standard.
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