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Post by deeside2 on Dec 15, 2023 7:48:40 GMT
I'd very much prefer Nuno, then JDT, or even at a (long) stretch in a very distant third place, Carsley. If it is Eustace then I'll be very disappointed and concerned we'll be back in this same scenario in 12 to 18 months time, but I'll give him my support and hope he proves me wrong.
In the meantime I hope the bookies odds are meaningless.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 15, 2023 7:55:16 GMT
Looks like Eustace now. Odds on with all the bookies overnight. It’ll be people lumping on after the odds dropped yesterday.
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Post by idle on Dec 15, 2023 7:59:54 GMT
As a 'I just want us to play attractive football' type, Nuno wouldn't be my first choice. He is so good though that I think it would still be great news if we got him. Therefore, this would surely be an appointment that unites the fans. Are there any other 'purists' out there who agree/disagree with this? Also, we'd desperately need a left footed wing back in addition to the other positions we desperately need If we bring Nuno in it’ll be a shame we sold Tymon. Him and Hoever will be about 2 of the best wingbacks you could have in the league. I don’t know why we sold Tymon in the first place, there was space for him and Gooch in the squad. Well, none of us wanted us to play with a back 5, but when we didn't replace him we came up short. Still, he probably wanted to go, so it was only fair IMO. Stevens will do fine at LWB, but we still need another one
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Post by idle on Dec 15, 2023 8:04:27 GMT
I'd very much prefer Nuno, then JDT, or even at a (long) stretch in a very distant third place, Carsley. If it is Eustace then I'll be very disappointed and concerned we'll be back in this same scenario in 12 to 18 months time, but I'll give him my support and hope he proves me wrong. In the meantime I hope the bookies odds are meaningless. And I don't understand why Carsley is so much more sought after than Eustace. Both are a gamble IMO. Eustace because he's only managed one club for about a year in the championship, and isn't seen as a good player developer (yet?) and Carsley because national u21s is not the same as managing a senior club in the gritty championship. 1. Nuno 2. JDT 3. Dick Schreuder 4. Mowbray 5. Eustace 6. Carsley Those are the one's i'll be ok with (or better!) from the ones we've been linked with. I'll only be disappointed if it's a defensive dinosaur like Warnock or Allardyce, or someone equally dull like Heckingbottham
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 15, 2023 8:05:44 GMT
Nuno had a dream To rebuild our football team He hated Saudi and he thinks benzemas a cunt With 4 (or 5) at the back Let’s go all out attack We’re stoke City we’re on our way back Isn’t he a pragmatist?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2023 8:09:49 GMT
Nuno had a dream To rebuild our football team He hated Saudi and he thinks benzemas a cunt With 4 (or 5) at the back Let’s go all out attack We’re stoke City we’re on our way back Isn’t he a pragmatist? Who cares what religion he is.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 15, 2023 8:14:25 GMT
I'd very much prefer Nuno, then JDT, or even at a (long) stretch in a very distant third place, Carsley. If it is Eustace then I'll be very disappointed and concerned we'll be back in this same scenario in 12 to 18 months time, but I'll give him my support and hope he proves me wrong. In the meantime I hope the bookies odds are meaningless. And I don't understand why Carsley is so much more sought after than Eustace. Both are a gamble IMO. Eustace because he's only managed one club for about a year in the championship, and isn't seen as a good player developer (yet?) and Carsley because national u21s is not the same as managing a senior club in the gritty championship. 1. Nuno 2. JDT 3. Dick Schreuder 4. Mowbray 5. Eustace 6. Carsley Those are the one's i'll be ok with (or better!) from the ones we've been linked with. I'll only be disappointed if it's a defensive dinosaur like Warnock or Allardyce, or someone equally dull like Heckingbottham 1 2 and 3 are the only ones we should be looking at but you just know we'll revert to type.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 8:31:19 GMT
Nuno had a dream To rebuild our football team He hated Saudi and he thinks benzemas a cunt With 4 (or 5) at the back Let’s go all out attack We’re stoke City we’re on our way back Isn’t he a pragmatist? He’s whatever Jorge Mendes tells him to be tbf.
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Post by satoshi on Dec 15, 2023 8:32:24 GMT
Looks like Eustace now. Odds on with all the bookies overnight. It’ll be people lumping on after the odds dropped yesterday. Hope so
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 15, 2023 8:33:52 GMT
Nuno had a dream To rebuild our football team He hated Saudi and he thinks benzemas a cunt With 4 (or 5) at the back Let’s go all out attack We’re stoke City we’re on our way back Isn’t he a pragmatist? I’m not sure pragmatic it necessarily fair. His wolves championship team scored over 100 goals didn’t they?
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Dec 15, 2023 8:34:15 GMT
As a 'I just want us to play attractive football' type, Nuno wouldn't be my first choice. He is so good though that I think it would still be great news if we got him. Therefore, this would surely be an appointment that unites the fans. Are there any other 'purists' out there who agree/disagree with this? Also, we'd desperately need a left footed wing back in addition to the other positions we desperately need If we bring Nuno in it’ll be a shame we sold Tymon. Him and Hoever will be about 2 of the best wingbacks you could have in the league. I don’t know why we sold Tymon in the first place, there was space for him and Gooch in the squad. Yeah I thought about tymon when writing. Not sure he's good enough though?
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 15, 2023 8:40:21 GMT
If we bring Nuno in it’ll be a shame we sold Tymon. Him and Hoever will be about 2 of the best wingbacks you could have in the league. I don’t know why we sold Tymon in the first place, there was space for him and Gooch in the squad. Yeah I thought about tymon when writing. Not sure he's good enough though? Under MON he was one of the best and most productive player in any position in the league I’m sure.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 15, 2023 8:43:21 GMT
Yeah I thought about tymon when writing. Not sure he's good enough though? Under MON he was one of the best and most productive player in any position in the league I’m sure. For a spell until he got found out. Tymon has reached the ceiling of his potential, which is at a much higher level than I thought he’d manage to play at given how his career here began.
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Post by stokieinlondon on Dec 15, 2023 8:51:28 GMT
Nuno was top of that list 24 hours ago. Did you post ‘Nuno it is then’ then? Your Triggered 🤣🤣 Nope. Just asking about your announcement strategy.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 15, 2023 8:54:01 GMT
If they go for Eustace,then he was their pick from the start,they have let it longer on,so it would look like they were thinking of going foreign.
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 15, 2023 8:54:53 GMT
Under MON he was one of the best and most productive player in any position in the league I’m sure. For a spell until he got found out. Tymon has reached the ceiling of his potential, which is at a much higher level than I thought he’d manage to play at given how his career here began. I don’t know, I think there’s abit more in there but I barely follow stoke anymore never mind any other teams/players. Especially when you think we’ve never really had a coach style manager who improves players. MON was the closest we’ve had and he only really improved the younger players.
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Post by Eggybread on Dec 15, 2023 9:01:48 GMT
Looks like Eustace now. Odds on with all the bookies overnight. O dear.
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Post by Goonie on Dec 15, 2023 9:04:32 GMT
I remember playing a promoted Wolves in the friendly before we both kicked off the new season in our new leagues.
We still had a team of premier league players and they passed and moved us off the park
A friendly I know but you could see which team was the better organised and assured.
If NES isn't in post I'll be gutted
Proven at this level and above. Feels too much of a pipe dream though
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Post by idle on Dec 15, 2023 9:05:23 GMT
Under MON he was one of the best and most productive player in any position in the league I’m sure. For a spell until he got found out. Tymon has reached the ceiling of his potential, which is at a much higher level than I thought he’d manage to play at given how his career here began. I'm not sure. He was highly thought of as a youngster. A good coach might make him better than our backroom team managed in 6(!?) years. But who cares, he's a swan now.
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Post by neddy on Dec 15, 2023 9:07:50 GMT
Looks like Eustace now. Odds on with all the bookies overnight. O dear. Oh dear indeed, what a let down if that’s true. It may show it’s one thing talking to candidates but it appears another to get them to take it?
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Post by idle on Dec 15, 2023 9:08:52 GMT
And I don't understand why Carsley is so much more sought after than Eustace. Both are a gamble IMO. Eustace because he's only managed one club for about a year in the championship, and isn't seen as a good player developer (yet?) and Carsley because national u21s is not the same as managing a senior club in the gritty championship. 1. Nuno 2. JDT 3. Dick Schreuder 4. Mowbray 5. Eustace 6. Carsley Those are the one's i'll be ok with (or better!) from the ones we've been linked with. I'll only be disappointed if it's a defensive dinosaur like Warnock or Allardyce, or someone equally dull like Heckingbottham 1 2 and 3 are the only ones we should be looking at but you just know we'll revert to type..... Well, that was not my point. 4-6 are still good choices IMO. Mowbray plays good attacking football, always has and have been moderately successful. Not a long term appointment though, He wears out pretty fast (18 months max), but he could lay a good foundation for the next man in the summer of 2026. Eustace and Carsley are managers with unknown potential, and are both gambles. But as gambles go, we could do a lot worse. My fear is that we revert to the "safe" options of dour defensive managers.
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Post by moon on Dec 15, 2023 9:12:53 GMT
If they go for Eustace,then he was their pick from the start,they have let it longer on,so it would look like they were thinking of going foreign. I don't think they would drag it out just to appease the fans, they own the club, they are billionaires who made their money in the gambling industry, and they can do whatever the hell they want. I'm sure they couldn't care less what the average fan thinks.
It's far more likely to be an uninspiring appointment from the UK than a manager from abroad, that's just not the way they typically do things, as narrow minded as it may seem. I do believe they want what is best for the club, but they've made some bad decisions in the past 5 years and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes.
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Post by neddy on Dec 15, 2023 9:14:22 GMT
Maybe he didn’t want it or costs were unworkable we may never know?
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 15, 2023 9:19:09 GMT
Im not againt Nuno but didnt he have it all on a plate for him at Wolves?
Unlimited funds plus access to a Portugese superagent who dropped on him pretty much any player he wanted . Due to FFP he woukdnt have that here
Also had a huge backroom team behind him and will be on a few bob
Dont get me wrong it woukd be an intriguing appointment but it certainly isnt without risk
Can see why people would go for Carsley or Eustace instead
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 15, 2023 9:24:14 GMT
Close the thread down.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 15, 2023 9:29:27 GMT
If they go for Eustace,then he was their pick from the start,they have let it longer on,so it would look like they were thinking of going foreign. I don't think they would drag it out just to appease the fans, they own the club, they are billionaires who made their money in the gambling industry, and they can do whatever the hell they want. I'm sure they couldn't care less what the average fan thinks.
It's far more likely to be an uninspiring appointment from the UK than a manager from abroad, that's just not the way they typically do things, as narrow minded as it may seem. I do believe they want what is best for the club, but they've made some bad decisions in the past 5 years and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes.
If they don't care what the fans think,they danm well should,if season tickets fall quite a lot,they will care then. Any business That doesn't care about its customers,shouldn't be running it.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2023 9:34:20 GMT
I don't think they would drag it out just to appease the fans, they own the club, they are billionaires who made their money in the gambling industry, and they can do whatever the hell they want. I'm sure they couldn't care less what the average fan thinks.
It's far more likely to be an uninspiring appointment from the UK than a manager from abroad, that's just not the way they typically do things, as narrow minded as it may seem. I do believe they want what is best for the club, but they've made some bad decisions in the past 5 years and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes.
If they don't care what the fans think,they damn well should,if season tickets fall quite a lot,they will care then. Coates showed in 2006 he doesn't take much notice of what the fans think. It's debatable who knows the least about football, the fans or the Coates'.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 15, 2023 10:19:49 GMT
I don't think they would drag it out just to appease the fans, they own the club, they are billionaires who made their money in the gambling industry, and they can do whatever the hell they want. I'm sure they couldn't care less what the average fan thinks.
It's far more likely to be an uninspiring appointment from the UK than a manager from abroad, that's just not the way they typically do things, as narrow minded as it may seem. I do believe they want what is best for the club, but they've made some bad decisions in the past 5 years and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes.
If they don't care what the fans think,they danm well should,if season tickets fall quite a lot,they will care then. Any business That doesn't care about its customers,shouldn't be running it. These are my thoughts entirely. This appointment is make or break for them as owners and the club. If they get it wrong they could risk loosing a hell of a lot of fans in both the short and long term. The appointment could either kick us on or set us back years and it ultimately comes down to their decision.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 15, 2023 10:26:59 GMT
For a spell until he got found out. Tymon has reached the ceiling of his potential, which is at a much higher level than I thought he’d manage to play at given how his career here began. I'm not sure. He was highly thought of as a youngster. A good coach might make him better than our backroom team managed in 6(!?) years. But who cares, he's a swan now. And not a very popular one. Swansea fans dont rate him and watching him on Tuesday you can see why. Did he play a ball forward? I think there was one cross from him that hit the first man.
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Post by questionable on Dec 15, 2023 10:29:20 GMT
O dear. Oh dear indeed, what a let down if that’s true. It may show it’s one thing talking to candidates but it appears another to get them to take it? If true stinks of desperation and cheapness and will split the fan base even more, the players need a fresh start and new ideas not some bloke who Birmingham deemed not good enough. No faith in the owners getting such an important role right given we’ve had 5 failures in 5 or so years
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