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Post by theonlooker on Dec 11, 2023 13:35:33 GMT
His career record is just beige. Achieved nowt at Brentford, won promotion off the back of Grealish at Villa and did nothing at Leicester or Norwich. I just hope it's press nonsense that isn't true. He'd be such a let down of an appointment it's untrue. I have just had a little Google and apparently Jack Grealish only scored six goals and got six assists in that promotion season. He's crap mate
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Post by milky on Dec 11, 2023 13:36:23 GMT
Inside info tells me 3 managers have been approached and all of them are interested. Who? Stan Ternant ( probably dead but reckon we could cross that bridge) Ronnie Moore ( see above) Bill Asprey ( definitely dead but knows the club and has unfinished business)
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Post by glpotter on Dec 11, 2023 13:37:47 GMT
Dean smith would be the most stoke thing ever.
Beige, predictable and shite
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 13:38:18 GMT
Am I right in thinking he was part of Brentford’s success before frank took the reigns? I know he wasn’t the reason for success but remember them being a very good footballing side. Saying that wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club. Yep , you are right thinking he was part of Brentford's success , before Frank took over
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 11, 2023 13:38:32 GMT
I have just had a little Google and apparently Jack Grealish only scored six goals and got six assists in that promotion season. He's crap mate A bit harsh on Grealish that ... 😉😂
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Post by miggo on Dec 11, 2023 13:39:35 GMT
Brentford - ages ago. I could get Villa up with Jack Grealish in the side. Next. Who is next then? I doubt that we are going to get a manager who does not come with some degree of baggage. This. Expectations are way too high.
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Post by miggo on Dec 11, 2023 13:40:41 GMT
Norwich fans said he was the worst manager they have ever had, and villa under him would still have been in the championship if it wasnt for grealish, he would be the worst possible appointment. Worst possible, really......really!!
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Post by pavel on Dec 11, 2023 13:41:24 GMT
God forbid, no, no, no.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 11, 2023 13:48:30 GMT
Brentford - ages ago. I could get Villa up with Jack Grealish in the side. Next. This is Stoke City sitting just above the relegation zone in the Champo we're talking about right now?! What world beating manager do Stoke fans realistically think are going to rock up at ST4 anytime soon?! Reality check for those not happy with us being linked to a Dean Smith calibre of manager right now, perhaps the likes of Dean Smith are looking at Stoke right now saying nah thanks aswell! We naturally have a high opinion of our club, that's what being a fan of the club does to you. But perhaps Stoke & A Dean Smith are about right for each other right now, just as TP was when Cotterill walked out on us?! Yep. This is the pool we are fishing in. Unless something out of the blue comes up that nobody could even guess at, that list is what we are working with. We are 20th in the Championship. We’ll pay whoever comes in good money so it’s not completely unattractive but we aren’t getting anybody mind blowing. I can’t see Heckingbottom coming here and he’d be bottom of that three for me, but I think any of them could come in and make us better. Play offs and promotion are the ultimate aim but, first and foremost, we need something to build on. I thought AN would work for us and it failed miserably, so there’s really no guessing at who will make a decent fist of it.
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Post by stokief on Dec 11, 2023 13:51:44 GMT
I honestly don't think I'll be able to keep supporting if we make another huge mistake. It's agonising watching this perpetual shambolic merry-go-round.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 11, 2023 13:53:57 GMT
His career record is just beige. Achieved nowt at Brentford, won promotion off the back of Grealish at Villa and did nothing at Leicester or Norwich. I just hope it's press nonsense that isn't true. He'd be such a let down of an appointment it's untrue. I have just had a little Google and apparently Jack Grealish only scored six goals and got six assists in that promotion season. To be fair Villa's season did turn around towards the back end of the season when they made a late run into the play off places and it coincided with Grealishs return from a lengthy spell out. My bro who is a Villa fan was adamant that Grealish carried them over the line. Tammy Abrahams goals are what thrust Villa into a lofty position that season as they'd loaned him from Chelsea and he was on fire. & acquiring John Terry as an Assistant player manager also helped them out as even approaching retirement Terry commanded the defence well. If Dean Smith does end up coming, potential for Dean to appoint John Terry as an assistant aswell as they did get on and work well together. Craig Shakespeare also a possibility but sure I heard he's been ill.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 11, 2023 13:55:17 GMT
This is Stoke City sitting just above the relegation zone in the Champo we're talking about right now?! What world beating manager do Stoke fans realistically think are going to rock up at ST4 anytime soon?! Reality check for those not happy with us being linked to a Dean Smith calibre of manager right now, perhaps the likes of Dean Smith are looking at Stoke right now saying nah thanks aswell! We naturally have a high opinion of our club, that's what being a fan of the club does to you. But perhaps Stoke & A Dean Smith are about right for each other right now, just as TP was when Cotterill walked out on us?! Yep. This is the pool we are fishing in. Unless something out of the blue comes up that nobody could even guess at, that list is what we are working with. We are 20th in the Championship. We’ll pay whoever comes in good money so it’s not completely unattractive but we aren’t getting anybody mind blowing. I can’t see Heckingbottom coming here and he’d be bottom of that three for me, but I think any of them could come in and make us better. Play offs and promotion are the ultimate aim but, first and foremost, we need something to build on. I thought AN would work for us and it failed miserably, so there’s really no guessing at who will make a decent fist of it. We are where we are. - Five successive bottom half finishes. - One near-brush with relegation. - Another potential relegation scrap on the horizon. The only thing appealing about us is the money we can pay and the support from board level. Everything else is pretty poor.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 11, 2023 13:55:31 GMT
May be unfair, but I was taken aback by how unpopular he was at Norwich. Late Neil levels
And he was unable to do anything at all to stop a very talented Leicester squad dropping like a falling meteor.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 11, 2023 13:56:51 GMT
Yep. This is the pool we are fishing in. Unless something out of the blue comes up that nobody could even guess at, that list is what we are working with. We are 20th in the Championship. We’ll pay whoever comes in good money so it’s not completely unattractive but we aren’t getting anybody mind blowing. I can’t see Heckingbottom coming here and he’d be bottom of that three for me, but I think any of them could come in and make us better. Play offs and promotion are the ultimate aim but, first and foremost, we need something to build on. I thought AN would work for us and it failed miserably, so there’s really no guessing at who will make a decent fist of it. We are where we are. - Five successive bottom half finishes. - One near-brush with relegation. - Another potential relegation scrap on the horizon. The only thing appealing about us is the money we can pay and the support from board level. Everything else is pretty poor. Indeed this, its only our finances & family based supporting board that will currently attract anyone half decent to our club right now. Hasn't got much else going for it let's be honest.
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Post by pavel on Dec 11, 2023 13:58:17 GMT
That old book of managers must be getting very worn by now, perhaps they could update to the nearly new millennium edition.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 13:58:59 GMT
May be unfair, but I was taken aback by how unpopular he was at Norwich. Late Neil levels And he was unable to do anything at all to stop a very talented Leicester squad dropping like a falling meteor. That Villa side that he took up was spearheaded by Tammy Abraham too, which gives me Vydra at Derby under Rowett vibes.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 11, 2023 14:00:57 GMT
I’m not a fan of Eustace, but he’d be much better than Smith.
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Post by bangorstokie on Dec 11, 2023 14:02:39 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 11, 2023 14:03:41 GMT
I've got serious, serious Lambert and Kamara vibes right now...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 14:04:52 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “ Again, we literally just had a manager like that. It went awfully.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 11, 2023 14:07:26 GMT
Brentford - ages ago. I could get Villa up with Jack Grealish in the side. Next. This is Stoke City sitting just above the relegation zone in the Champo we're talking about right now?! What world beating manager do Stoke fans realistically think are going to rock up at ST4 anytime soon?! Reality check for those not happy with us being linked to a Dean Smith calibre of manager right now, perhaps the likes of Dean Smith are looking at Stoke right now saying nah thanks aswell! We naturally have a high opinion of our club, that's what being a fan of the club does to you. But perhaps Stoke & A Dean Smith are about right for each other right now, just as TP was when Cotterill walked out on us?! If your approach is lazy arsed then yes, Dean Smith will fit the bill.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 11, 2023 14:07:50 GMT
I've got serious, serious Lambert and Kamara vibes right now... Definite lambert vibes. But, as I said yesterday, are we now a poisoned chalice? Would a top quality manager want to come to us? I don’t think they would. We’re getting towards being a bargain basement championship side, on and off the pitch. No reason to believe we won’t end up with a bargain basement managerial appointment.
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Post by milky on Dec 11, 2023 14:09:14 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “ I really think that's the last thing they need . Let's not forget most are young men playing in an environment they have never encountered before and probably in some cases don't know the language. We really don't need a Pearson/ Warnock figure . Just my opinion of course
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Post by potter25 on Dec 11, 2023 14:10:02 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “ Someone said on radio stoke this morning he left Bristol city due to results but also poor health?
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Post by bangorstokie on Dec 11, 2023 14:10:59 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “ Again, we literally just had a manager like that. It went awfully. Don’t really think you can put Pearson in the same bracket as Neil. I believe from what I’ve been told, Pearson played players on merit, with Neil, you started games whether your previous performances were shite or not.
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Post by hoppo96 on Dec 11, 2023 14:11:01 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “ where would they fuck off too? We'd still be paying their wages, even if we put them in the u23 or shipped out on loan. And those managers aren't as successful anymore, because the players know if in this example Pearson doesn't get results quickly he's gone.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 11, 2023 14:11:10 GMT
Can’t understand why Pearson isn’t in the frame. No nonsense manager who in my opinion, would give the idle fuckers in the squad an ultimatum, “ shape up or fuck off “ He's been poorly I believe, some unknown condition that he was having tests for last I heard. Sure I read that they didn't believe it was life threatening bit still quite debilitating none the less. Could perhaps prevent him taking another job. I get the no nonsense approach but just don't see him fitting into SCFC right now, its got a, he's been there and done that feel about it..
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Post by wonderwall on Dec 11, 2023 14:11:56 GMT
I've got serious, serious Lambert and Kamara vibes right now... Definite lambert vibes. But, as I said yesterday, are we now a poisoned chalice? Would a top quality manager want to come to us? I don’t think they would. We’re getting towards being a bargain basement championship side, on and off the pitch. No reason to believe we won’t end up with a bargain basement managerial appointment. Why we need to go foreign, maybe they don’t understand how much of a complete joke we are and we can attract somebody better than UK market. Grab a up and comer out of the German league. Take a punt. What’s to lose!
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Post by trotter1980 on Dec 11, 2023 14:17:06 GMT
His win ratio is far better than what we have and plays some decent football . My mate at villa enjoyed him at villa for three years
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Post by jokker on Dec 11, 2023 14:23:40 GMT
And he was unable to do anything at all to stop a very talented Leicester squad dropping like a falling meteor. Would anyone have been able to stop that slide? They had had a fantastic team but with barely more than the small squad that won them the league. From there it could only go downwards, with so many players moving on or dropping out. Once they let their captain and keeper go there was no stopping the downfall.
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