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Post by ursemboys on Jan 17, 2024 8:46:08 GMT
Oh my days, does this country get any more insane? I’m finding that with young people in particular there’s a real diffficulty in being mentally strong when coping with even the most minor of incidents. Isn’t the best thing to do when challenged to prove the other party wrong by carrying on and showing them that you’re not going to be intimidated rather than to run away. In schools there really needs to be lessons around resilience. I think part of the cause is being alone way too much in lockdown and lack of interaction in person. The problem is they have so many people advising them to play the victim and I can bet you she will come out with the race card once she gets back off her holidays(sorry her escape from danger week away)
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Post by spiderpuss on Jan 17, 2024 9:52:36 GMT
Aluko, is just a poor pundit and one Channel 4 reaches for when every other pundit's schedule is "occupied" or "full". It's not a woman/race or any other thing, it's a pundit thing. There's plenty of female pundits out there I enjoy, and I'm sure there will be plenty more. It just won't be Eni.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 17, 2024 10:08:54 GMT
Oh my days, does this country get any more insane? I’m finding that with young people in particular there’s a real diffficulty in being mentally strong when coping with even the most minor of incidents. Isn’t the best thing to do when challenged to prove the other party wrong by carrying on and showing them that you’re not going to be intimidated rather than to run away. In schools there really needs to be lessons around resilience. I think part of the cause is being alone way too much in lockdown and lack of interaction in person. Yeah, she should man the fuck up. Which ironically would put her in Joey's good books. I think there should be lessons in school on how not to be a vile abusive prick on social media.
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Post by a on Jan 17, 2024 12:44:40 GMT
She is a typical example of what I’ve been on about on SSN Agreed. Reminds me of this: Love Kammy, proper character! He’s had years of being reminded of this and tbf he laughs it off. Top bloke is Kammy 😂
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 17, 2024 16:37:21 GMT
I’m finding that with young people in particular there’s a real diffficulty in being mentally strong when coping with even the most minor of incidents. Isn’t the best thing to do when challenged to prove the other party wrong by carrying on and showing them that you’re not going to be intimidated rather than to run away. In schools there really needs to be lessons around resilience. I think part of the cause is being alone way too much in lockdown and lack of interaction in person. Yeah, she should man the fuck up. Which ironically would put her in Joey's good books. I think there should be lessons in school on how not to be a vile abusive prick on social media. I can assure you they already do that. Unfortunately like most things it doesn’t always work. For what it’s worth it’s not about “manning up” it’s about learning to cope with life better and building resilience so that you can stand up to bullying or is the answer to always run off at the first sign of trouble. That doesn’t mean you put up with bigotry it means you face up to it and challenge it not run off at the first sign of trouble. Oh and manning up doesn’t mean resorting to violence or being abusive it’s about taking the moral higher ground.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 17, 2024 16:53:41 GMT
I’m finding that with young people in particular there’s a real diffficulty in being mentally strong when coping with even the most minor of incidents. Isn’t the best thing to do when challenged to prove the other party wrong by carrying on and showing them that you’re not going to be intimidated rather than to run away. In schools there really needs to be lessons around resilience. I think part of the cause is being alone way too much in lockdown and lack of interaction in person. The problem is they have so many people advising them to play the victim and I can bet you she will come out with the race card once she gets back off her holidays(sorry her escape from danger week away) I just wondered if you feel yourself to be qualified to make such judgements? For example, have you ever been through the experience of having hundreds of people persistently abusing you through public media? I just wonder what that would feel like? I have no idea, but I assume it would be greatly disturbing, at the very least, depending on the existing mental state of the person in question could be quite traumatic especially when they come over as quite aggressive which I imagine they do.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 17, 2024 17:13:34 GMT
The problem is they have so many people advising them to play the victim and I can bet you she will come out with the race card once she gets back off her holidays(sorry her escape from danger week away) I just wondered if you feel yourself to be qualified to make such judgements? For example, have you ever been through the experience of having hundreds of people persistently abusing you through public media? I just wonder what that would feel like? I have no idea, but I assume it would be greatly disturbing, at the very least, depending on the existing mental state of the person in question could be quite traumatic especially when they come over as quite aggressive which I imagine they do. give it a rest, she will play the race card that's a given and she is the one who said she has had to leave the country but has really gone on holiday and can you confirm that she has had hundreds of people been aggressive to her ?. and if she finds it traumatic she could always come out of the public eye but I bet you she won't when she is getting paid shit loads but that will of course help the with the mental state.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 17, 2024 17:24:13 GMT
I just wondered if you feel yourself to be qualified to make such judgements? For example, have you ever been through the experience of having hundreds of people persistently abusing you through public media? I just wonder what that would feel like? I have no idea, but I assume it would be greatly disturbing, at the very least, depending on the existing mental state of the person in question could be quite traumatic especially when they come over as quite aggressive which I imagine they do. give it a rest, she will play the race card that's a given and she is the one who said she has had to leave the country but has really gone on holiday and can you confirm that she has had hundreds of people been aggressive to her ?. and if she finds it traumatic she could always come out of the public eye but I bet you she won't when she is getting paid shit loads but that will of course help the with the mental state. Can you confirm that she hasn’t had people being aggressive or racially abusing her ? Do you think anyone “in the public eye” should accept abuse as part of the job.
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Post by flea79 on Jan 17, 2024 17:26:59 GMT
have zero time for Aluko since she tried to throw the womens england coach under the bus for not picking her and screamed racist at him, the reaction of the other team members to him spoke volumes, that of course is clearly forgotten these days
Re Barton, has anybody checked he needs some help? the jam has obviously slid out of his doughnut
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Post by independent on Jan 17, 2024 17:28:55 GMT
When they go to Court, do victims have to show that they were unable to avoid the abuse that they suffered online. It appears to me that any public persona should be obliged to avoid social media, unless they wish to embrace all the easily predicted vile comments. Anyway, shouldn't there be something similar to AD-Blocker to deal with this stuff on these sites.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 17, 2024 17:29:16 GMT
give it a rest, she will play the race card that's a given and she is the one who said she has had to leave the country but has really gone on holiday and can you confirm that she has had hundreds of people been aggressive to her ?. and if she finds it traumatic she could always come out of the public eye but I bet you she won't when she is getting paid shit loads but that will of course help the with the mental state. Can you confirm that she hasn’t had people being aggressive or racially abusing her ? Do you think anyone “in the public eye” should accept abuse as part of the job. just do a search on her and you will find out what she is like
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Post by Los Alfareros on Jan 17, 2024 17:34:49 GMT
Christ almighty, where do they get them from? The is no way she is qualified to do that job as a presenter aside from her football knowledge Melissa Reddy (born 24 August 1986)[1] is a South African football journalist and author. Reddy left her role as the Senior Football Correspondent at The Independent in March 2022, to become a senior reporter for Sky Sports and Sky Sports News. Her speciality is the Premier League.[2] Career edit Whilst studying at university, Reddy did an internship at Summit TV, a business channel in South Africa. After moving to Cape Town and joining TEAMtalk Media in 2007, and working across many sports, Reddy was Head of Football by 2011, before becoming Deputy Editor of Kick Off which is Africa's largest sport publication.[3] On both occasions, she was the first woman to hold such a post, and was also the first to feature as a football analyst on SuperSport’s marquee shows Backpages and Monday Night Football.[4][1] Reddy became the Liverpool correspondent of Goal's 38 editions worldwide in November 2015.[5] Reddy was then football correspondent at ESPN,[6] wrote for The Athletic,[7] and became the senior football correspondent at Joe,[8] before joining The Independent as senior football correspondent in November 2019.[9] Reddy's television appearances include Sky Sports News' Tackling Racism,[10] Sunday Supplement,[11] Red Men TV[12] and the BBC’s Premier League Show.[13] Reddy has also guested on BBC Radio Five Live.[14] Reddy has written for, guested and presented shows on The Anfield Wrap.[15] Reddy has also presented shows on The Football Ramble,[16] and guested on Second Captains,[17] and BT Sport’s Football Writers Podcast.[18] In 2020, Reddy started her own podcast interview series entitled Between The Lines with Melissa Reddy. Guests have included Gary Lineker, Mauricio Pochettino and Daniel Sturridge.[19] In 2020, Reddy released her first book, entitled Believe Us: How Jürgen Klopp Transformed Liverpool Into Title Winners. The book was referenced by England national rugby union team head coach Eddie Jones as an insight into the thinking and practises of the elite team produced by Jürgen Klopp at Liverpool[20][21] Reddy has spoken prominently about the racism and sexism she has endured in forging her career, and the barriers women face.[10] Reddy was shortlisted in the Best Writer category in the 2021 Football Supporters' Association awards. Ahh, that explains it then, because I've never met a nice South African.
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Post by lordb on Jan 17, 2024 17:40:59 GMT
Melissa Reddy (born 24 August 1986)[1] is a South African football journalist and author. Reddy left her role as the Senior Football Correspondent at The Independent in March 2022, to become a senior reporter for Sky Sports and Sky Sports News. Her speciality is the Premier League.[2] Career edit Whilst studying at university, Reddy did an internship at Summit TV, a business channel in South Africa. After moving to Cape Town and joining TEAMtalk Media in 2007, and working across many sports, Reddy was Head of Football by 2011, before becoming Deputy Editor of Kick Off which is Africa's largest sport publication.[3] On both occasions, she was the first woman to hold such a post, and was also the first to feature as a football analyst on SuperSport’s marquee shows Backpages and Monday Night Football.[4][1] Reddy became the Liverpool correspondent of Goal's 38 editions worldwide in November 2015.[5] Reddy was then football correspondent at ESPN,[6] wrote for The Athletic,[7] and became the senior football correspondent at Joe,[8] before joining The Independent as senior football correspondent in November 2019.[9] Reddy's television appearances include Sky Sports News' Tackling Racism,[10] Sunday Supplement,[11] Red Men TV[12] and the BBC’s Premier League Show.[13] Reddy has also guested on BBC Radio Five Live.[14] Reddy has written for, guested and presented shows on The Anfield Wrap.[15] Reddy has also presented shows on The Football Ramble,[16] and guested on Second Captains,[17] and BT Sport’s Football Writers Podcast.[18] In 2020, Reddy started her own podcast interview series entitled Between The Lines with Melissa Reddy. Guests have included Gary Lineker, Mauricio Pochettino and Daniel Sturridge.[19] In 2020, Reddy released her first book, entitled Believe Us: How Jürgen Klopp Transformed Liverpool Into Title Winners. The book was referenced by England national rugby union team head coach Eddie Jones as an insight into the thinking and practises of the elite team produced by Jürgen Klopp at Liverpool[20][21] Reddy has spoken prominently about the racism and sexism she has endured in forging her career, and the barriers women face.[10] Reddy was shortlisted in the Best Writer category in the 2021 Football Supporters' Association awards. Ahh, that explains it then, because I've never met a nice South African. The nice one emigrated to Paris
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Post by glpotter on Jan 17, 2024 18:03:01 GMT
Aluko is an insufferable hypocrite
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jan 17, 2024 18:13:09 GMT
Can you confirm that she hasn’t had people being aggressive or racially abusing her ? Do you think anyone “in the public eye” should accept abuse as part of the job. just do a search on her and you will find out what she is like I did Google “what is Eni Aluko like” but I found no conclusive evidence on what she is really like. I didn’t ask you whether you like her or not. You asked a previous poster if he could confirm his claims that she had received abusive calls. I asked you to confirm that she hasn’t. I also asked you if you considered that anyone in the “public eye” should accept or be impervious to abuse, including racial abuse as part and parcel of the job.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 17, 2024 18:22:39 GMT
just do a search on her and you will find out what she is like I did Google “what is Eni Aluko like” but I found no conclusive evidence on what she is really like. I didn’t ask you whether you like her or not. You asked a previous poster if he could confirm his claims that she had received abusive calls. I asked you to confirm that she hasn’t. I also asked you if you considered that anyone in the “public eye” should accept or be impervious to abuse, including racial abuse as part and parcel of the job. no they shouldn't but she said she needed to leave the country which is lies, not seen her get any racial abuse but she has played the racist herself in the past, no none should be abused but if your in the public eye you would think they would expect it sometimes, where she gone by the way ? somewhere there is no internett and has she left her phone behind ?. if she has had abusive messages then print them, let the public see them so the people can be shamed, will she publish them ? I won't hold my breath . regards liking her I dont know her but I think she is a crap commentator and before you say anything its nowt do with her been a woman, there are plenty good ones
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 17, 2024 21:19:38 GMT
Paddy Kenny taking the piss🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 0:18:39 GMT
If I were a celebrity, the last thing I’d do would be to go on social media. I’d imagine that her DMs fall into one of three categories:
1) You suck, die. 2) I need your money. Give me it. 3) Netflix and chill?
I don’t really see why they use it to be honest.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 18, 2024 3:15:14 GMT
Paddy Kenny taking the piss🤣 Wonder if that’s his mastermind interview , not the brightest even in a select band of not so bright footballers .
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 18, 2024 8:31:08 GMT
Paddy Kenny taking the piss🤣 Wonder if that’s his mastermind interview , not the brightest even in a select band of not so bright footballers . He's just a twat isn't he. These are the kind of knobheads that Barton has as followers. So what if she went on holiday, some people go on holiday to get away from stuff, from crap that's going on in their lives, that's the often the idea of an holiday. What Barton said about Aluko was sick and disgusting full stop, and to encourage and support his remarks is also sick.
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Post by noustie on Jan 18, 2024 9:58:35 GMT
Sums up 2023/24 that Barton is grifting off Aluko and Aluko is grifting off Barton but both are too fucking stupid to likely realise it.
Barton's a bellend but he couldn't be, in his wildest dreams, as dangerous to equality as Aluko is chucking the race card about like it's Reverse Uno.
There's been numerous decent black pundits recently, particularly during world cups, but she simply isn't one them.
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Post by mamasgloves on Jan 18, 2024 10:19:33 GMT
Is Aluko a good pundit - no Is Barton a massive bellend - yes
As for telling her to man up and get to grips with the abuse she is getting, that is so simplistic its not funny. Not one person commenting here will have ever had to endure racist and misogynistic abuse nor are they high profile enough to endure the hundreds/thousands of whipped up Barton wannabees threatening her life or the lives of those around her. For all intents and purposes she is a bit of tit but to play down what she is going through and claiming 'she'll play the race card' is massively disrespectful and misinformed
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Post by a on Jan 18, 2024 10:20:03 GMT
Aluko is an insufferable hypocrite Calling Barton a racist white man (in a message to him) when he has as far as I know mentioned nothing of her race is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has an issue with women but I don’t think he’s mentioned her race (he may well be racist too but I don’t know), so why did she bring his skin colour up?
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Post by mamasgloves on Jan 18, 2024 10:22:40 GMT
Aluko is an insufferable hypocrite Calling Barton a racist white man (in a message to him) when he has as far as I know mentioned nothing of her race is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has an issue with women but I don’t think he’s mentioned her race (he may well be racist too but I don’t know), so why did she bring his skin colour up? He referred to his brother committing a racially motivated murder "a scrap" Do you think he isn't racist?
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Post by a on Jan 18, 2024 12:27:23 GMT
Calling Barton a racist white man (in a message to him) when he has as far as I know mentioned nothing of her race is wrong in my opinion. He obviously has an issue with women but I don’t think he’s mentioned her race (he may well be racist too but I don’t know), so why did she bring his skin colour up? He referred to his brother committing a racially motivated murder "a scrap" Do you think he isn't racist? I haven’t said that have I? He may well be racist and from what I’ve read online he probably is, but I don’t get why Aluko mentioned his race. Does it make her racist? Is it acceptable what she said? I don’t think it is. I think he’s vile by the way, and I’m not defending him, just calling out her comments about him being a “white boy” as a weirdly racial thing to say
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 12:35:34 GMT
It's nasty bullying from a person who clearly isn't well.
Most pundits are shit, the real issue is: why single out this one? We all know the answer to that and anyone who joins in with it is the same, they know what they are.
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Post by satoshi on Jan 18, 2024 14:28:21 GMT
Barton and Aluko are both bellends. Taking offence over any of this is pure virtue signaling, which also makes you a bellend.
Why get involved? Not that you actually are, you’re just pretending to take offence on the internet.
I hope this helps.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 18, 2024 19:58:26 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 18, 2024 20:05:06 GMT
I just absolutely hate social media. Aluko is shite, Owen is shite, Barton has lost his marbles and this young whipper snapper needs to get out more
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 18, 2024 20:09:56 GMT
He’s hit absolutely no head with zero nail. Him, Barton and Aluko for that matter are all just a bunch of losers who love the sound of their own voice too much. Social media for you.
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