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Post by yellowsnowman on Jan 7, 2024 10:18:31 GMT
I have no problem with female pundits. I just dont want them on the mens game. They can do all the punditory in the world for the womans game.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 7, 2024 10:19:53 GMT
I have no problem with female pundits. I just dont want them on the mens game. They can do all the punditory in the world for the womans game. So you do have a problem with them.
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Post by gawa on Jan 7, 2024 10:27:43 GMT
he must have made his money , because nobody will ever employ him again ,asshole He’s just seemingly imploded since losing his job at Bristol Rovers. Despite being a loose cannon away from football, as a manager he seemed to have a lot of respect from his players and we know how excellent he has been at bringing on the youngsters. He hasn’t actually assaulted a woman unlike footballers such as Goodwillie, so he may well find himself back in work at some point unless the ladies team of a club or sponsors kick off about it. He's been in prison and found guilty of committing common assault, affray and abh. Also Stubbed a cigar out in someone's eye. And was accused of kicking his wife on the head and grabbing her throat before she withdrew the complaint. David Goodwillie has a history two of course but was never found guilty in a criminal court and hasn't had any repeat offenses for over a decade now. If someone's learned from their mistakes and reformed themselves then they should be given a second chance in my opinion. Barton on the other hand never learns but due to the selective outrage in people's morale compasses for certain crimes these days, Goodwillie is made out worse than people like Barton.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 7, 2024 10:29:32 GMT
I have no problem with female pundits. I just dont want them on the mens game. They can do all the punditory in the world for the womans game. Why though? Would you not want a man commentating on women’s gymanstics, women’s swimming, women’s diving, women’s athletics? Gender has nothing to do with it. If they are a good enough pundit who cares? To add I agree with the majority that Aluko is no where near good enough as a pundit.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 7, 2024 11:00:52 GMT
It’s not even the point that he’s defending it’s the manner in which he’s doing it. Very excited to see the défense of this one. This is @itv “Shut up you fucking idiots. Keep them off the tele. They’re ruining the game for everyone of us. It’s what happens when you force under qualified, under prepared, tokenistic people onto us. I will be calling them all serial killers from now on. Every clip you fuckers put out. Told you, I don’t care anymore. We’ve all had enough of your ‘Woke’, ‘DEI’ bullshit. I hope everyone who agrees with me, gets right after your social media every time you force this nonsense on us. 👍 I tried to play nice, you didn’t listen. 👑“ x.com/joey7barton/status/1743327495301234831?s=46&t=TkMhJ-dNdW19jQ0SSnopIgHe's a vile, disgusting bastard and his comments are absolutely abhorrent, however his underlying point, does actually have some merit. Eni Aluko is an absolutely dreadful football pundit and she should be nowhere near a football punditry commentary microphone, anymore than you or I should do. She can't even be arsed to research the names of the players she is supposed to be commentating about, it's utterly embarrassing listening to her 'insight' into the game. Yes, there are plenty of white, male co-commentators who are also terrible but she is on a appallingly, different level altogether, she repeatedly comes across as somebody who has just a won a competition to be a football pundit for an hour and I think it's fair to ask, if she's only actually given the opportunity to do so, in order to tick boxes? It seems like it's a taboo to question her ability as a football pundit because she is a woman of colour, when really, she should be judged by what comes out of her mouth and routinely this is regularly ignored .... it's utter garbage.
Barton is a misogynistic idiot but, buried amongst all his sexist guff, there actually is a pretty valid claim to be considered, although many people won't even dare to go there.
I don't think it's taboo to question her ability as a pundit at all. The thing is if you question anyone's ability who's only 'crime ' is to not be very good by comparing them to perhaps one of the most evil serial killers of the 20th century then the criticism lost furore over the insult. By all means have a discussion over whether someone warrants the position to which they have been appointed - but don't make it about 'all women' or resort to peurile insults. But that wouldn't get Joey noticed would it?
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 7, 2024 11:07:42 GMT
I am absolutely fine with female pundits and commentators if they are good it at it. A few certainly are and are a joy to listen to. The majority are fairly awful and just seem to shriek a lot in a high pitched voice.
I won’t pretend there aren’t rubbish male ones as well.
Anyone competent and knowledgeable is fine by me, it’s the competency that’s the issue not the gender.
As for Barton. Any point he might have is lost in the torrent of abuse.
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Post by mrnovember on Jan 7, 2024 11:26:38 GMT
Football punditry in general is dog shit. Jobs for boys/girls dog shit. Aluko is just the tip of the shitberg.
It's irrefutable evidence of the purification of my mind. I stare gormlessly at the screen as Saint Gary Lineker takes a break from expressing outrageously noble sentiments on The Internet to ask the human bowl of un seasoned gruel, Alan Shearer, what he thinks of that last game.
"He's GOT to pass there" or "He's GOT to stay onside there" or "He's GOT to save that" or "Pushing up leaves space behind" are the kind of ground breaking insights offered by Alan week after week after week.
Cut back to St Gaz, who thanks Alan, drops a shite pun before going back to The Internet to remind us how awful and selfish we are. Well worth his £1m a year.
They're all boring bastards who regurgitate the same boring tropes and clichés and get paid extortionate amounts of bunce to do so. Get rid and pass the savings on to the consumer I say.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 7, 2024 11:53:21 GMT
Personally, I think he's bang on... He just has a problem with the way he puts it across!!!
P.S. I said "personally".... So if anybody has a problem with MY opinion, keep it to yourself yeah, I've read your post and been respectful, so be respectful of mine!!! 👍🏼
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jan 7, 2024 12:37:35 GMT
I have no problem with female pundits. I just dont want them on the mens game. They can do all the punditory in the world for the womans game. So you do have a problem with them. Not at all. Id rather listen to men talk about mens football. Quite simple.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 12:38:41 GMT
What an absolute cunt he is.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jan 7, 2024 12:38:42 GMT
I have no problem with female pundits. I just dont want them on the mens game. They can do all the punditory in the world for the womans game. Why though? Would you not want a man commentating on women’s gymanstics, women’s swimming, women’s diving, women’s athletics? Gender has nothing to do with it. If they are a good enough pundit who cares? To add I agree with the majority that Aluko is no where near good enough as a pundit. Im talking football nothing more.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 12:41:16 GMT
Why though? Would you not want a man commentating on women’s gymanstics, women’s swimming, women’s diving, women’s athletics? Gender has nothing to do with it. If they are a good enough pundit who cares? To add I agree with the majority that Aluko is no where near good enough as a pundit. Im talking football nothing more. There’s no difference
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jan 7, 2024 12:42:20 GMT
I only watch football.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jan 7, 2024 12:43:55 GMT
Im talking football nothing more. There’s no difference Its just opinions fella.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 12:50:17 GMT
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jan 7, 2024 12:51:25 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Jan 7, 2024 12:53:19 GMT
no it isn’t , ppl have different opinions get over it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 12:53:58 GMT
no it isn’t , ppl have different opinions get over it People do and when they’re flawed and show prejudice you should call that up.
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Post by Gifton on Jan 7, 2024 12:55:42 GMT
The problem with Joey Barton is that he believes himself to be far more intelligent than he actually is.
With regards to women pundits, I couldn't care less as I no longer watch football if Stoke aren't involved. One thing I do know however, is that they simply cannot be worse than most of the male pundits. Danny Murphy for example, has not once uttered a sentence of any interest whatsoever. Alan Shearer is apparently paid a fortune despite being the most boring man since Michael Owen.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 7, 2024 12:57:23 GMT
no it isn’t , ppl have different opinions get over it People do and when they’re flawed and show prejudice you should call that up. [br nah ppl to easily offended these days
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Post by Gifton on Jan 7, 2024 12:57:29 GMT
Been off this page for over a year. You've not changed! Absolute know-it-all arsehole! lol
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 13:00:18 GMT
Been off this page for over a year. You've not changed! Absolute know-it-all arsehole! lol Well it’s clearly sexism which is a form of discrimination. And shouldn’t be tolerated.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 7, 2024 13:04:40 GMT
Been off this page for over a year. You've not changed! Absolute know-it-all arsehole! lol Well it’s clearly sexism which is a form of discrimination. And shouldn’t be tolerated. is it bollocks , grow a backbone ffs
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 7, 2024 13:07:33 GMT
Let's face it - the real problem with Joey Barton are those chips on his shoulder and the fact that he keeps on yapping! He's just a click-bait clown for the media - good for an occasional inflammatory remark to drive up attention. Hopefully one day he'll realize how they're playing him and he'll finally accept that invitation to the "Shut the Hell Up" Club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 13:10:36 GMT
Well it’s clearly sexism which is a form of discrimination. And shouldn’t be tolerated. is it bollocks , grow a backbone ffs I have. Standing up to people who don’t think people of a certain gender don’t have a right to comment on another gender playing a game.
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Post by thornestein on Jan 7, 2024 13:11:09 GMT
is it bollocks , grow a backbone ffs I have. Standing up to people who don’t think people of a certain gender don’t have a right to comment on another gender playing a game. haha 🤣😂🤣😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 13:12:04 GMT
I have. Standing up to people who don’t think people of a certain gender don’t have a right to comment on another gender playing a game. haha 🤣😂🤣😂 Yeah it’s pathetic when it’s written like that isn’t it
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Post by thornestein on Jan 7, 2024 13:15:16 GMT
Yeah it’s pathetic when it’s written like that isn’t it nah it’s the young ones of today that are offended by the slightest thing that are pathetic, imo the women commentators in football are awful , they need learn off the women cricket commentators who are fantastic
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2024 13:17:11 GMT
Yeah it’s pathetic when it’s written like that isn’t it nah it’s the young ones of today that are offended by the slightest thing that are pathetic, imo the women commentators in football are awful , they need learn off the women cricket commentators who are fantastic What has gender got to do with being able to talk about football? All commentators and pundits are awful. None add anything. The worst imo is Chris Sutton closely followed by Martin Keown. Neither female. They all talk bollocks. And it has fuck all to do with them being women.
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Post by Rose City Potter on Jan 7, 2024 13:25:38 GMT
I haven’t seen Eluko so I have no idea if she is a good pundit or not.
Barton’s comments are just ridiculous. If he was genuinely concerned about the quality of analysis he would offer constructive feedback not resort to culture war nonsense. The irony being that he probably isn’t bright enough to explain what woke actually means. If he was that gob down the pub who spouts off about this you wouldn’t bat an eye. I think that it’s a sad reflection on society that his comments are given weight based on his success as a footballer, sadder yet that there are many people who see them as ‘he is says it how it is’ etc
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