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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 30, 2023 10:40:18 GMT
If the manager keeps side lining this lad then that's a deal breaker for me, just bin him off.
The likes of Tchamadeu, Bae, Mmaee and Vidigal are the future of this club and it's improvement. Play them, give them a decent run of games to form partnerships on the pitch and flourish. I am not interested in developing Hoever in the interests of Wolverhampton Wanderers, I'm interested in this lad becoming the best full back in this league and potentially earning us a big fat transfer fee in the future..........
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Nov 30, 2023 11:58:19 GMT
In the games he played in for us you could see he is really strong and his defensive positioning was fantastic.
When he was dragged over to left back he always tucked in just enough so the ball couldn't be played through inside him and the pass to the winger would have to go outside for him to then close down. I don't care that he only just came from League 2, he's clearly a damn good player and to be overlooked for the who's who of shit we currently have at full back is criminal.
I assumed he had to have a knock of something after coming back from Cameroon's games but he wasn't playing beofre either, despite being our best defensive player in all of his appreances so far.
Neil has to go.
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Post by idle on Nov 30, 2023 12:30:35 GMT
Junior certainly isn't injured. can understand why he wasn't included at the weekend coming back from his international trip see absolutely no reason he wasn't at least on the bench on Tuesday ANs probaly angry that he went to the international games. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2023 12:31:52 GMT
can understand why he wasn't included at the weekend coming back from his international trip see absolutely no reason he wasn't at least on the bench on Tuesday ANs probaly angry that he went to the international games. Why? That makes no sense I want AN out but that's just daft |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Nov 30, 2023 12:33:04 GMT
can understand why he wasn't included at the weekend coming back from his international trip see absolutely no reason he wasn't at least on the bench on Tuesday ANs probaly angry that he went to the international games. If that's the case then AN needs to fuck off and do one. We could do with the problem of juggling international absences again, instead of juggling our weekly tallest dwarf competition. |
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Post by idle on Nov 30, 2023 12:34:20 GMT
ANs probaly angry that he went to the international games. Why? That makes no sense I want AN out but that's just daft Missing a player that could have been needed if Hoever or Gooch were injured to a meaningsless friendly? And possibly missing him for a month of African Nations Cup later on? I'd be mildly irritated if I was playing FM... |
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2023 12:41:24 GMT
Why? That makes no sense I want AN out but that's just daft Missing a player that could have been needed if Hoever or Gooch were injured to a meaningsless friendly? And possibly missing him for a month of African Nations Cup later on? I'd be mildly irritated if I was playing FM... So you wouldn't play them? Crazy I think it's as simple as AN rates Hoever and Gooch as better options Hoever hasn't played well for ages, Gooch is handy but Junior should be playing atm |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 30, 2023 12:44:12 GMT
We need to use our better players! The QPR game was a step in the right direction until Hoever was brought on, but still he left Gayle out which resulted in goals for us!  |
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Post by idle on Nov 30, 2023 12:51:14 GMT
Missing a player that could have been needed if Hoever or Gooch were injured to a meaningsless friendly? And possibly missing him for a month of African Nations Cup later on? I'd be mildly irritated if I was playing FM... So you wouldn't play them? Crazy I think it's as simple as AN rates Hoever and Gooch as better options Hoever hasn't played well for ages, Gooch is handy but Junior should be playing atm Well, Gooch hasn't exactly been setting thing on fire either has he? He's 3' even if he's aggressive. So I think Junior should get the chance, I have no idea what he's done wrong to be benced for months. I was half-joking, but we've always had managers who had their favorites even if they played poorly, and used any excuse to not use alternatives. Even Pulis. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 13:03:35 GMT
Criminally underused. Too good to be a sub. More suitable to this division than Hoever.
I suspect most of us can see it, but perhaps we're all wrong......
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Post by lordb on Nov 30, 2023 13:31:12 GMT
So you wouldn't play them? Crazy I think it's as simple as AN rates Hoever and Gooch as better options Hoever hasn't played well for ages, Gooch is handy but Junior should be playing atm Well, Gooch hasn't exactly been setting thing on fire either has he? He's 3' even if he's aggressive. So I think Junior should get the chance, I have no idea what he's done wrong to be benced for months. I was half-joking, but we've always had managers who had their favorites even if they played poorly, and used any excuse to not use alternatives. Even Pulis. no Gooch hasn't < he's done OK though , handy sub / Junior should be playing as I said above he isn't because AN rates the other two above Junior all managers everywhere have favourites, especially Pulis , to be fair to AN he has dropped his own signings > e.g. Pearson, before now I think his use of favourites is much less than most managers Thats a charge I wouldn't lay at him He's just wrong to play Hoever atm as he's not doing it > when Hoever is on form he's a reall asset attacking wise but not atm |
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Post by etebojan on Nov 30, 2023 15:38:00 GMT
can understand why he wasn't included at the weekend coming back from his international trip see absolutely no reason he wasn't at least on the bench on Tuesday ANs probaly angry that he went to the international games. Depends when he actually came back from international duty if he flew in on Monday as i saw someone on Twitter mentioned, then he'd possibly be jet lagged and hadn't prepped or trained with the team, and therefore completely understandable if he'd not been even on the bench. I think he is the future and he is clearly good enough, I also believe he will get more game time very soon |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 30, 2023 18:30:40 GMT
So you wouldn't play them? Crazy I think it's as simple as AN rates Hoever and Gooch as better options Hoever hasn't played well for ages, Gooch is handy but Junior should be playing atm Well, Gooch hasn't exactly been setting thing on fire either has he? He's 3' even if he's aggressive. So I think Junior should get the chance, I have no idea what he's done wrong to be benced for months. I was half-joking, but we've always had managers who had their favorites even if they played poorly, and used any excuse to not use alternatives. Even Pulis. He's been rubbish in the last couple of starts/substitute appearances........ |
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Post by idle on Nov 30, 2023 20:16:05 GMT
Well, Gooch hasn't exactly been setting thing on fire either has he? He's 3' even if he's aggressive. So I think Junior should get the chance, I have no idea what he's done wrong to be benced for months. I was half-joking, but we've always had managers who had their favorites even if they played poorly, and used any excuse to not use alternatives. Even Pulis. He's been rubbish in the last couple of starts/substitute appearances........ Tchamadeu? I thought he was pretty solid for a 19 y.o. from L2. Or did you mean Gooch? |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 30, 2023 20:36:10 GMT
If the manager keeps side lining this lad then that's a deal breaker for me, just bin him off. The likes of Tchamadeu, Bae, Mmaee and Vidigal are the future of this club and it's improvement. Play them, give them a decent run of games to form partnerships on the pitch and flourish. I am not interested in developing Hoever in the interests of Wolverhampton Wanderers, I'm interested in this lad becoming the best full back in this league and potentially earning us a big fat transfer fee in the future.......... Don't forget young Sidibe too. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 30, 2023 21:17:55 GMT
He's been rubbish in the last couple of starts/substitute appearances........ Tchamadeu? I thought he was pretty solid for a 19 y.o. from L2. Or did you mean Gooch? Gooch |
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Post by gaznandi on Dec 1, 2023 11:03:26 GMT
Deadline day signing Junior Tchamadeu is also likely to return to the squad after being left in the stands in the last couple of weeks.
Neil said: “Junior's fine. We've had three full-backs with Ki-Jana, Enda on the other side and Goochy who can cover off both, we’ve got Jordan Thompson and Josh Laurent and we want to have options at the top end of the pitch.
“You pick your starting XI to try to win the game and then you pick your bench to make sure you fill all the slots that are necessary throughout the team. You wouldn’t necessarily have two full-backs on the bench because you might need other areas to cover.”
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2023 11:18:50 GMT
Deadline day signing Junior Tchamadeu is also likely to return to the squad after being left in the stands in the last couple of weeks. Neil said: “Junior's fine. We've had three full-backs with Ki-Jana, Enda on the other side and Goochy who can cover off both, we’ve got Jordan Thompson and Josh Laurent and we want to have options at the top end of the pitch. “You pick your starting XI to try to win the game and then you pick your bench to make sure you fill all the slots that are necessary throughout the team. You wouldn’t necessarily have two full-backs on the bench because you might need other areas to cover.” then hes even more stupid than i think if hes having gooch on the bench before jnr , the mans a clown and needs to go asap |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 12:11:29 GMT
Deadline day signing Junior Tchamadeu is also likely to return to the squad after being left in the stands in the last couple of weeks. Neil said: “Junior's fine. We've had three full-backs with Ki-Jana, Enda on the other side and Goochy who can cover off both, we’ve got Jordan Thompson and Josh Laurent and we want to have options at the top end of the pitch. “You pick your starting XI to try to win the game and then you pick your bench to make sure you fill all the slots that are necessary throughout the team. You wouldn’t necessarily have two full-backs on the bench because you might need other areas to cover.” then hes even more stupid than i think if hes having gooch on the bench before jnr , the mans a clown and needs to go asap Exactly |
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Post by lordb on Dec 1, 2023 12:12:29 GMT
Deadline day signing Junior Tchamadeu is also likely to return to the squad after being left in the stands in the last couple of weeks. Neil said: “Junior's fine. We've had three full-backs with Ki-Jana, Enda on the other side and Goochy who can cover off both, we’ve got Jordan Thompson and Josh Laurent and we want to have options at the top end of the pitch. “You pick your starting XI to try to win the game and then you pick your bench to make sure you fill all the slots that are necessary throughout the team. You wouldn’t necessarily have two full-backs on the bench because you might need other areas to cover.” then hes even more stupid than i think if hes having gooch on the bench before jnr , the mans a clown and needs to go asap Gooch covers many more positions, he's played all over the pitch, he should pretty much always be on the bench The obvious thing to do, for several weeks now, is play Junior, Gooch on the bench & leave Hoever out altogether Hoever can get his form back in the reserves > oh wait reserve football doesn't exist anymore  |
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 1, 2023 13:19:01 GMT
If he does not play him after the last two defensive debacles, he has really lost the plot. He is our future whatever is up with the man. Give Sidibe some time as well. Get a grip Alex!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 1, 2023 13:23:55 GMT
Deadline day signing Junior Tchamadeu is also likely to return to the squad after being left in the stands in the last couple of weeks. Neil said: “Junior's fine. We've had three full-backs with Ki-Jana, Enda on the other side and Goochy who can cover off both, we’ve got Jordan Thompson and Josh Laurent and we want to have options at the top end of the pitch. “You pick your starting XI to try to win the game and then you pick your bench to make sure you fill all the slots that are necessary throughout the team. You wouldn’t necessarily have two full-backs on the bench because you might need other areas to cover.” He's making it very difficult for me not to veer towards the "AN out" camp. How can the manager witness this lads performances to date and not want him in his matchday squad? Absolutely baffling............ |
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Post by milky on Dec 1, 2023 13:27:13 GMT
After Tuesday's debacle if Hoever is anywhere near the bench let alone the starting 11 the manager has lost it completely.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 1, 2023 13:28:45 GMT
If he does not play him after the last two defensive debacles, he has really lost the plot. He is our future whatever is up with the man. Give Sidibe some time as well. Get a grip Alex! I can see why Sidibe isn't in the first 11 yet, but what a player he will be! Junior on the other hand is our best full back, but he still isn't given game time! Instead Neil prefers Hoever who costs us game after game!That he can't see who is the better defender, and especially now with Campbell back on the wing as well, is beyond my understanding!  |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 1, 2023 14:28:50 GMT
Chased him all summer,he has played very well when picked,but for some reason he isn't even making the bench,AN needs to come clean has to why this is.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 1, 2023 14:41:05 GMT
If he doesn't start tomorrow or at least be on the bench, we know something must be up.
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Post by Veritas on Dec 1, 2023 14:50:35 GMT
If he doesn't start tomorrow or at least be on the bench, we know something must be up. What we would know is that AN doesn't think he is ready. He has already made it clear he is behind Hoever, Stevens and Gooch in the pecking order. |
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Post by idle on Dec 1, 2023 15:00:59 GMT
If he doesn't start tomorrow or at least be on the bench, we know something must be up. What we would know is that AN doesn't think he is ready. He has already made it clear he is behind Hoever, Stevens and Gooch in the pecking order. Sort of, he said he's behind Hoever at RB and Stevens at LB, but that Gooch is more versatile as a sub. Although he preferred Gooch vs. QPR so that says something unless Junior got back from Cameroon late monday evening. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 1, 2023 15:11:24 GMT
Chased him all summer,he has played very well when picked,but for some reason he isn't even making the bench,AN needs to come clean has to why this is. He just loves Hoever, won't drop him |
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 1, 2023 15:13:54 GMT
then hes even more stupid than i think if hes having gooch on the bench before jnr , the mans a clown and needs to go asap Gooch covers many more positions, he's played all over the pitch, he should pretty much always be on the bench The obvious thing to do, for several weeks now, is play Junior, Gooch on the bench & leave Hoever out altogether Hoever can get his form back in the reserves > oh wait reserve football doesn't exist anymore The obvious thing to do would be in my eyes start Junior at RB and start Gooch at LB and leave Hoever to lick his wounds. The only way Hoever should get on the pitch is from the bench in an attacking right sided midfield role as he can get forward with pace and whip decent crosses in. But he needs a proper defensive RB behind him as he leaves far too much space in behind. |
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