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Post by chell_rosey on Sept 25, 2023 13:16:07 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 25, 2023 13:23:05 GMT
Mike Williamson.
Stoke fan as well I believe.
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Post by peterpan1 on Sept 25, 2023 13:55:18 GMT
Mike Bassett.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2023 14:04:14 GMT
Mike Williamson. Stoke fan as well I believe. National League to Championship is a bit of a jump don’t you think?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 25, 2023 14:05:41 GMT
Mike Williamson. Stoke fan as well I believe. National League to Championship is a bit of a jump don’t you think? Absolutely. Was just thinking out loud. Apparently he's got them playing total football on one of the lowest budgets in the league..............
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 25, 2023 14:14:58 GMT
Someone like Hoefkens would capture the imagination of the fans, but clearly would be a risk. I'd quite like it!
Dean Smith? Carlos Corberan? Ryan Lowe?!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 25, 2023 14:21:13 GMT
Someone like Hoefkens would capture the imagination of the fans, but clearly would be a risk. I'd quite like it! Dean Smith? Carlos Corberan? Ryan Lowe?! That kind of manager , yep. He went to Liege fairly recently seen to remember but the way forward, not another Brit.
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Post by neddy on Sept 25, 2023 14:28:56 GMT
I have sympathy for the owners. They have tried young, senior, up and coming and even what they thought was proven.
It’s so difficult and so much down to a bit of luck?
I wouldn’t like to be in the firing line yet again if it goes pear shaped.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Sept 25, 2023 14:37:38 GMT
I have sympathy for the owners. They have tried young, senior, up and coming and even what they thought was proven. It’s so difficult and so much down to a bit of luck? I wouldn’t like to be in the firing line yet again if it goes pear shaped. Yep, fair play, they’ve tried a variety of ‘types’ and do seem cursed!
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2023 14:53:46 GMT
I have sympathy for the owners. They have tried young, senior, up and coming and even what they thought was proven. It’s so difficult and so much down to a bit of luck? I wouldn’t like to be in the firing line yet again if it goes pear shaped. I think the mistake a lot of owners make is picking flavour of the moment, rather than someone with a track record of playing the style of football that suits their current squad. NJ for example was a diamond obsessive, but we didn't have the players for it. So by the time he left, we ended up with a hotchpotch of players that was a disastrous mix of Rowett's distorted vision of what he was trying to achieve and NJ's third-rate wing back system. MON came in and tried to put more square pegs in round holes. The result is a melting pot nightmare for anyone but a forward-thinking manager to try and sort out. At least our clear out over the past couple of years and this summer's recruitment has now created a squad that appear suited to a formation like 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. We're just saddled with a halfwit manager who can't tell his arse from his elbow. So we should find a manager who makes it clear at interview he is wedded to either/both those systems. That immediately discounts the likes of Wilder and Schumacher, and invites someone like a Corberan (maybe a Marsch?) to take the reigns and utilize the potential of their resources whilst adding to it in the months to come.
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Post by flea79 on Sept 25, 2023 14:53:52 GMT
I have sympathy for the owners. They have tried young, senior, up and coming and even what they thought was proven. It’s so difficult and so much down to a bit of luck? I wouldn’t like to be in the firing line yet again if it goes pear shaped. Yep, fair play, they’ve tried a variety of ‘types’ and do seem cursed! that hadjuk split fan did warn us that every team that beats them carries a curse forever after that, we beat them twice so we are doubly screwed i guess
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 25, 2023 14:58:22 GMT
Wayne Rooney will be our next manager. He’ll accept the role as the logistics are second to none for him…… Jesus fucking Christ. Wayne Rooney Absolutely....... "Wayne Rooneys Stoke City"....? I can hear it now...... ( Sits back and slowly shakes head )
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 25, 2023 15:05:52 GMT
Jocelyn Gourvennec Ryan Mason John Kennedy Kevin Muscat
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 25, 2023 15:10:58 GMT
As things stand, a few months too late. He’s safe til the new year and beyond that, if we’re out of the bottom 6 by then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 15:12:08 GMT
Jesus fucking Christ. Wayne Rooney Absolutely....... "Wayne Rooneys Stoke City"....? I can hear it now...... ( Sits back and slowly shakes head ) I could cope with that if he was any good. Wayne Rooney is an absolutely wank football manager, that's my only issue with him being mentioned
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 25, 2023 15:23:28 GMT
I think if we ever appoint Rooney, I shall retire as a Stoke fan. Nay, I’d retire as a football fan. My camel’s back would be broken.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2023 15:26:54 GMT
I have sympathy for the owners. They have tried young, senior, up and coming and even what they thought was proven. It’s so difficult and so much down to a bit of luck? I wouldn’t like to be in the firing line yet again if it goes pear shaped. What's the common denominator?
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2023 15:29:05 GMT
I have sympathy for the owners. They have tried young, senior, up and coming and even what they thought was proven. It’s so difficult and so much down to a bit of luck? I wouldn’t like to be in the firing line yet again if it goes pear shaped. I think the mistake a lot of owners make is picking flavour of the moment, rather than someone with a track record of playing the style of football that suits their current squad. NJ for example was a diamond obsessive, but we didn't have the players for it. So by the time he left, we ended up with a hotchpotch of players that was a disastrous mix of Rowett's distorted vision of what he was trying to achieve and NJ's third-rate wing back system. MON came in and tried to put more square pegs in round holes. The result is a melting pot nightmare for anyone but a forward-thinking manager to try and sort out. At least our clear out over the past couple of years and this summer's recruitment has now created a squad that appear suited to a formation like 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. We're just saddled with a halfwit manager who can't tell his arse from his elbow. So we should find a manager who makes it clear at interview he is wedded to either/both those systems. That immediately discounts the likes of Wilder and Schumacher, and invites someone like a Corberan (maybe a Marsch?) to take the reigns and utilize the potential of their resources whilst adding to it in the months to come. What fucking month was Rowett flavour of? Or Jones?
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 25, 2023 15:31:08 GMT
Yeah let’s get a new manager, that always works🙄
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2023 15:33:25 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 25, 2023 15:34:47 GMT
You have to have a race for runners and riders and as of yet there’s no race😊
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2023 15:35:58 GMT
I think the mistake a lot of owners make is picking flavour of the moment, rather than someone with a track record of playing the style of football that suits their current squad. NJ for example was a diamond obsessive, but we didn't have the players for it. So by the time he left, we ended up with a hotchpotch of players that was a disastrous mix of Rowett's distorted vision of what he was trying to achieve and NJ's third-rate wing back system. MON came in and tried to put more square pegs in round holes. The result is a melting pot nightmare for anyone but a forward-thinking manager to try and sort out. At least our clear out over the past couple of years and this summer's recruitment has now created a squad that appear suited to a formation like 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. We're just saddled with a halfwit manager who can't tell his arse from his elbow. So we should find a manager who makes it clear at interview he is wedded to either/both those systems. That immediately discounts the likes of Wilder and Schumacher, and invites someone like a Corberan (maybe a Marsch?) to take the reigns and utilize the potential of their resources whilst adding to it in the months to come. What fucking month was Rowett flavour of? Or Jones? Both were highly thought of when we appointed them. The issue with the owners is that that's where their thought process ends. It's completely surface-level. "I've heard he's good, let's get him!" So we've appointed people completely unsuitable for the job. An underdog pragmatist handed an enormous budget and tasked with an immediate return to the Premier League. A young, energetic, but still fairly inexperienced manager whose methods demand energy and wholesale buy-in handed a lump of cynical, hunger-free old pros. Replacing a manager who'd introduced a possession based style with one who wanted a high press. There's no method or wider vision or thought beyond that and it compounds our problems and sets us back further every time.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2023 15:35:58 GMT
Terry taking up a UK-based, behind-the-scenes role for a Saudi club. Huge money for old rope.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 25, 2023 15:36:19 GMT
Why do people have such a downer on Wilder? Every time I can recall us playing one of his sides, they've played us off the park with that weird system he uses. We even had the rather chastening spectacle of him celebrating winning this league in front of us - with a team that he built.
Neil is our manager though, and I don't think that will change.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2023 15:38:35 GMT
What fucking month was Rowett flavour of? Or Jones? Both were highly thought of when we appointed them. The issue with the owners is that that's where their thought process ends. It's completely surface-level. "I've heard he's good, let's get him!" So we've appointed people completely unsuitable for the job. An underdog pragmatist handed an enormous budget and tasked with an immediate return to the Premier League. A young, energetic, but still fairly inexperienced manager whose methods demand energy and wholesale buy-in handed a lump of cynical, hunger-free old pros. Replacing a manager who'd introduced a possession based style with one who wanted a high press. There's no method or wider vision or thought beyond that and it compounds our problems and sets us back further every time. Rowett wasn't highly thought of. Derby supporters didn't like is football or his bottling of the play off semi. They couldn't believe we were paying to take him off their hands. Maybe he was flavour of the month in the British Managers Club but nowhere else.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2023 15:39:08 GMT
Terry taking up a UK-based, behind-the-scenes role for a Saudi club. Huge money for old rope. What a vile cunt he is.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 25, 2023 15:43:16 GMT
If the Board decide on another Brit clone, they may as well stick with AN.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2023 15:47:20 GMT
Both were highly thought of when we appointed them. The issue with the owners is that that's where their thought process ends. It's completely surface-level. "I've heard he's good, let's get him!" So we've appointed people completely unsuitable for the job. An underdog pragmatist handed an enormous budget and tasked with an immediate return to the Premier League. A young, energetic, but still fairly inexperienced manager whose methods demand energy and wholesale buy-in handed a lump of cynical, hunger-free old pros. Replacing a manager who'd introduced a possession based style with one who wanted a high press. There's no method or wider vision or thought beyond that and it compounds our problems and sets us back further every time. Rowett wasn't highly thought of. Derby supporters didn't like is football or his bottling of the play off semi. They couldn't believe we were paying to take him off their hands. Maybe he was flavour of the month in the British Managers Club but nowhere else. His stock wasn't at its absolute peak but he was still generally regarded at that point as one of the better managers in the league and there were enough Derby fans upset about him leaving that they brought their little inflatable snakes with them when they played here.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2023 15:49:09 GMT
Why do people have such a downer on Wilder? Every time I can recall us playing one of his sides, they've played us off the park with that weird system he uses. We even had the rather chastening spectacle of him celebrating winning this league in front of us - with a team that he built. Neil is our manager though, and I don't think that will change. The way he tanked at Boro I think, primarily, but then the way it fell apart at Sheffield United didn't speak well of him either, some absolutely dreadful signings for big money and chucking the players under the bus publicly every week.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 25, 2023 15:57:00 GMT
Poch might be available soon.
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