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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2023 7:24:29 GMT
Carlos Corberan at West Brom would be my choice. They're in a mess financially and hopefully he'll be getting sufficiently pissed off to swap jobs. Worked wonders at Huddersfield and had an instant impact at West Brom too. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12146093/West-Brom-boss-Carlos-Corberan-emerging-contender-Sam-Allardyce-Leeds.htmlMail said he had a £2m release clause in the summer. Don't know whether that's feasible for us to pay as well as paying Neil off, which would be 7-figures, you'd think? All adds up in the FFP era Whether he'd think we were a better bet, who knows? Slight wage increase maybe - but there's talk of a takeover being possible there and they have got a decent squad. So maybe not one he'd jump at - but we said that about Neil
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Post by wasp1 on Oct 8, 2023 7:28:13 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2023 7:31:15 GMT
Rooney's record is dire, isn't it? Can't see the attraction unless you want him for PR reasons.
But if the Birmingham rumour is true, Eustace would have to be on the list.
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 8, 2023 7:35:20 GMT
Rooney's record is dire, isn't it? Can't see the attraction unless you want him for PR reasons. So if the Birmingham rumour is true, Eustace would have to be on the list. What has Eustace achieved as a manager exactly though, Looks to be more of the same to me. Like a sexier version of Gary Rowett and Nathan Jones. Bizarre If we're sacking it has to be for a definate upgrade for me, I'm talking Benitez territory
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2023 7:37:54 GMT
It looks like Rooney is set for Birmingham. Crazy
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 8, 2023 7:38:41 GMT
If we were thinking of a change, pretty sure we aren't, do we know who would be included in the process?. I think before it was Scholars, Coates Snr & Jnr, surely now it's not just Coates Jnr?.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 8, 2023 7:41:11 GMT
It looks like Rooney is set for Birmingham. Crazy The sort of manager who would guarantee relegation here.
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 8, 2023 7:45:06 GMT
It looks like Rooney is set for Birmingham. Crazy The sort of manager who would guarantee relegation here. Birmingham are 5th, they are solid and have made good signings with Eustace in charge. They can have Rooney, we will have Eustace
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 8, 2023 7:47:15 GMT
The sort of manager who would guarantee relegation here. Birmingham are 5th, they are solid and have made good signings with Eustace in charge. They can have Rooney, we will have Eustace Who doesn't like John Eustace but I think coming here would ruin his career unfortunately.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2023 7:51:30 GMT
Rooney's record is dire, isn't it? Can't see the attraction unless you want him for PR reasons. So if the Birmingham rumour is true, Eustace would have to be on the list. What has Eustace achieved as a manager exactly though, Looks to be more of the same to me. Like a sexier version of Gary Rowett and Nathan Jones. Bizarre If we're sacking it has to be for a definate upgrade for me, I'm talking Benitez territory He did well with Kidderminster - and it's hard to judge him at Brum before this season, as they such a car crash club. And he's looking the part now he's been backed a bit. luorns.substack.com/p/john-eustace-captain-leader-legend?r=1b89vyAnd he's always spoken glowingly of by people "in the game" - as much as you can read into that. Are we in the position financially to get a big hitter? That's the problem. If Eustace was sacked by Brum, can imagine he'd be very attractive to our board
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 8, 2023 7:53:29 GMT
Birmingham are 5th, they are solid and have made good signings with Eustace in charge. They can have Rooney, we will have Eustace Who doesn't like John Eustace but I think coming here would ruin his career unfortunately. If Neil goes we need an experienced coach, a Rooney or a Eustace is just flicking a page and gives temporary rest bite to the players and ownership, there is no experience there to do the Stoke job. Someone like Benitez or Michael Laudrup, high profile names, a proper name. Anything else is just not worth it, it could massively back fire www.danskfootball.com/managers/a-look-at-the-success-of-the-danish-manager-michael-laudrup/
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2023 7:55:45 GMT
Who doesn't like John Eustace but I think coming here would ruin his career unfortunately. If Neil goes we need an experienced coach, a Rooney or a Eustace is just flicking a page and gives temporary rest bite to the players and ownership, there is no experience there to do the Stoke job. Someone like Benitez or Michael Laudrup, high profile names, a proper name. Anything else is just not worth it To be fair, Benitez has done nowt for 15 years And Laudrup has effectively retired from management. I don't think there's anyone out there in that mould we could get. The Eustace types are the market we're going to be shopping in
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 8, 2023 7:56:28 GMT
Who doesn't like John Eustace but I think coming here would ruin his career unfortunately. If Neil goes we need an experienced coach, a Rooney or a Eustace is just flicking a page and gives temporary rest bite to the players and ownership, there is no experience there to do the Stoke job. Someone like Benitez or Michael Laudrup, high profile names, a proper name. Anything else is just not worth it, it could massively back fire www.danskfootball.com/managers/a-look-at-the-success-of-the-danish-manager-michael-laudrup/Totally agree with you.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 8, 2023 7:56:56 GMT
I'm not a Pulis fan but I would take him until the end of the season and hope he leaves the defence well drilled enough for the next manager to flourish with next season. Hopefully we get enough 1-0 wins to keep us up as we are looking more and more like a relegation team and on the plus side he won't take the shit AN does from refs.
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Post by mutters on Oct 8, 2023 7:58:12 GMT
Said it since August hell be gone around 28th oct so it will depend o who is available then as this break will see another raft of sackings and appointments starting tomorrow so who knows who could be available Is that when the next international break is? International break is now, then next one is after Coventry away - 11th November
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 8, 2023 7:58:33 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2023 7:58:54 GMT
Who doesn't like John Eustace but I think coming here would ruin his career unfortunately. If Neil goes we need an experienced coach, a Rooney or a Eustace is just flicking a page and gives temporary rest bite to the players and ownership, there is no experience there to do the Stoke job. Someone like Benitez or Michael Laudrup, high profile names, a proper name. Anything else is just not worth it, it could massively back fire www.danskfootball.com/managers/a-look-at-the-success-of-the-danish-manager-michael-laudrup/We are 4th bottom in the Championship There can't be a huge budget, some money but not huge 0% chance to get a Benitez We need to stay up
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 8, 2023 8:00:21 GMT
Is that when the next international break is? International break is now, then next one is after Coventry away - 11th November Mark that date in the diary as to when Neil will get fired.
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2023 8:00:53 GMT
Is that when the next international break is? International break is now, then next one is after Coventry away - 11th November So what specific re that date to Benji? The obvious time to change manager is right now The next most obvious time is the next international break
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 8, 2023 8:03:13 GMT
We are 4th bottom in the Championship There can't be a huge budget, some money but not huge 0% chance to get a Benitez We need to stay up I don't for one second believe relegation is on the cards. That's the manager profile I not want but expect if we're to rip up everything we've done this summer a quarter of the way into a new season. Anything else is tin pot & shambolic, in my view. We've been here many times before, pay for the profile Who will deliver instead of chancing our arm or don't bother
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2023 8:05:01 GMT
We are 4th bottom in the Championship There can't be a huge budget, some money but not huge 0% chance to get a Benitez We need to stay up I don't for one second believe relegation is on the cards. That's the manager profile I not want but expect if we're to rip up everything we've done this summer a quarter of the way into a new season. Anything else is tin pot & shambolic, in my view. We've been here many times before, pay for the profile Who will deliver instead of chancing our arm Look at the table, 11 games in At the very least have to be concerned
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 8, 2023 8:07:41 GMT
I don't for one second believe relegation is on the cards. That's the manager profile I not want but expect if we're to rip up everything we've done this summer a quarter of the way into a new season. Anything else is tin pot & shambolic, in my view. We've been here many times before, pay for the profile Who will deliver instead of chancing our arm Look at the table, 11 games in At the very least have to be concerned Not at all, 10 games to acclimatise & gel players from different countries and now a waiting room full of injured said players, we're not at full strength. I'm more worried about him being booed out by our own fans that don't agree with me. It could be an absolute disasster
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Post by Gods on Oct 8, 2023 8:08:49 GMT
Honestly I think JC will go through hoops to avoid pulling the trigger.
I mean it would make him look ridiculous, JC is in on the joke at least as much as the 3 wise men - AN, Tricky and Jared.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 8, 2023 8:16:18 GMT
Honestly I think JC will go through hoops to avoid pulling the trigger. I mean it would make him look ridiculous, JC is on the joke at least as much as the 3 wise men - AN, Tricky and Jared. If he leaves it too late he will look ridiculous if we find ourselves routed in the bottom 3 in several games time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 8:19:52 GMT
It looks like Rooney is set for Birmingham. Crazy Blues literally seem gutted by it, and want to keep Eustace hah. Weird old game. Imagine Sheff United may want Eustace if he’s free but should be very near the top of our list.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Oct 8, 2023 8:22:26 GMT
If I were a runner or a rider, it would take a very special offer to join the club right now. We have almost no defence and attack. Injuries are crippling us (no pun intended) and any new manager would probably be in for a lose 8 from 10 match run while we limp helplessly toward the transfer window. So reluctantly, I would keep Neil let him be the one to take the fall (eventually) and plan like fuck for that window to secure defensive and attacking options, with any smart arse who suggests signing a midfielder and distracting our limited spending capacity, shot on sight!
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Post by potters11 on Oct 8, 2023 8:22:26 GMT
If only there was a meet the manager / board event imminently!
We’ve not done a lot right in recent years but the timing of such events has been impeccable from the boards point of view in the last 6 months!
It’s time for Alex Neil to go and it needs to be done in the next 24-48 hours. It’s obvious he’s only 2-3 losses away for the inevitable sacking. It will catch up with him sooner rather than later so let’s do it now at this perfect moment with 2 weeks off.
It’s probably time we looked overseas again but the developments with Rooney overnight and his link to Birmingham would put John Eustace a hot favourite (if he does leave Birmingham) and I think that would be a decent move for all parties (maybe not Birmingham but that’s of little concern to me!)
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Post by Glory Hunter on Oct 8, 2023 8:26:50 GMT
If I were a runner or a rider, it would take a very special offer to join the club right now. We have almost no defence and attack. Injuries are crippling us (no pun intended) and any new manager would probably be in for a lose 8 from 10 match run while we limp helplessly toward the transfer window. So reluctantly, I would keep Neil let him be the one to take the fall (eventually) and plan like fuck for that window to secure defensive and attacking options, with any smart arse who suggests signing a midfielder and distracting our limited spending capacity, shot on sight! Sorry Potters11, I disagree. Have a look at my post above please. No manager on earth could recycle this group with our flaws through injury and my guess is that it would be hard t9 get anyone to join given the situation. Our hope is the transfer window, possibly our only hope!
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Post by lordb on Oct 8, 2023 8:27:30 GMT
If only there was a meet the manager / board event imminently! We’ve not done a lot right in recent years but the timing of such events has been impeccable from the boards point of view in the last 6 months! It’s time for Alex Neil to go and it needs to be done in the next 24-48 hours. It’s obvious he’s only 2-3 losses away for the inevitable sacking. It will catch up with him sooner rather than later so let’s do it now at this perfect moment with 2 weeks off. It’s probably time we looked overseas again but the developments with Rooney overnight and his link to Birmingham would put John Eustace a hot favourite (if he does leave Birmingham) and I think that would be a decent move for all parties (maybe not Birmingham but that’s of little concern to me!) I agree However I think the board will give him more time to see if it turns around As such I think he will be sacked in the next International break not this one
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Post by Waggy on Oct 8, 2023 8:29:08 GMT
Injustice for John Eustace if Rooney gets the Birmingham job because he is more famous. Doing a great job at Birmingham.
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