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Post by gawa on Sept 17, 2023 18:34:03 GMT
So who are the culture architects then? š¤£
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Post by independent on Sept 17, 2023 18:37:32 GMT
Please let us know what system AN prefers as I don't think that he himself knows. If he did, He had from last Sept. to line up the players he needed to play it. It is nonsense to suggest that our signings were targeted to play Neil's system. I've said it before and I'll say it again. These targets were assembled with a Blunderbuss, not A sniper's rifle, which is what was actually required.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 17, 2023 19:16:58 GMT
Please let us know what system AN prefers as I don't think that he himself knows. If he did, He had from last Sept. to line up the players he needed to play it. It is nonsense to suggest that our signings were targeted to play Neil's system. I've said it before and I'll say it again. These targets were assembled with a Blunderbuss, not A sniper's rifle, which is what was actually required. We've signed a lot of players with high potential for fairly low fees and I dare say not on massive wages. Whether we should have forgone a Bae or Burger for instance and dropped that extra money on a striker is mute because I think we fully expected and had the money to get a front line striker as well as what we did get. We're around Ā£10 M in the black still on player trading since AN arrived but other teams have paid more for our striker targets than we thought they were worth/was sensible to pay.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 17, 2023 19:33:11 GMT
Please let us know what system AN prefers as I don't think that he himself knows. If he did, He had from last Sept. to line up the players he needed to play it. It is nonsense to suggest that our signings were targeted to play Neil's system. I've said it before and I'll say it again. These targets were assembled with a Blunderbuss, not A sniper's rifle, which is what was actually required. We've signed a lot of players with high potential for fairly low fees and I dare say not on massive wages. Whether we should have forgone a Bae or Burger for instance and dropped that extra money on a striker is mute because I think we fully expected and had the money to get a front line striker as well as what we did get. We're around Ā£10 M in the black still on player trading since AN arrived but other teams have paid more for our striker targets than we thought they were worth/was sensible to pay. I don't think we actually have much money left, 18 signings come with plenty of signing on fees, agent costs and wage bills.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 17, 2023 20:11:03 GMT
So who are the culture architects then? š¤£ Please tell me he didn't say that. I can't face watching the video if so.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 17, 2023 20:20:04 GMT
When you look at the problems of the last few games, I'm not sure that Thomas-Assante is necessarily the solution. He's not really the target man type, a bit like Mmaee.
At least we're not all sitting here typing 'everything will be better after Christmas once Ross Stewart is fit again'.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 17, 2023 20:28:37 GMT
When you look at the problems of the last few games, I'm not sure that Thomas-Assante is necessarily the solution. He's not really the target man type, a bit like Mmaee. At least we're not all sitting here typing 'everything will be better after Christmas once Ross Stewart is fit again'. I don't think he wants a target man type, at least most of what he's said suggests he doesn't.
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Post by gawa on Sept 17, 2023 20:33:32 GMT
So who are the culture architects then? š¤£ Please tell me he didn't say that.Ā I can't face watching the video if so. One of the 5 main recruitment pillars they were looking for.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 17, 2023 20:54:51 GMT
We've signed a lot of players with high potential for fairly low fees and I dare say not on massive wages. Whether we should have forgone a Bae or Burger for instance and dropped that extra money on a striker is mute because I think we fully expected and had the money to get a front line striker as well as what we did get. We're around Ā£10 M in the black still on player trading since AN arrived but other teams have paid more for our striker targets than we thought they were worth/was sensible to pay. I don't think we actually have much money left, 18 signings come with plenty of signing on fees, agent costs and wage bills. Yeah ok we were just bidding for Thomas-Asante for a laugh. Tbh I think he was right down our target list maybe on the reverse page or another sheet altogether. Seems we allocated Ā£5M for a frontline striker and were still trying to get one right until the end. Whether placing that limit on that one big deal proves sensible only time will tell. Could we have upped it to Ā£7M and dropped the Bae deal or Ā£9M and dropped the Burger deal? Iām pretty comfortable with it I think our striker targets went for way too much money.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 18, 2023 13:43:34 GMT
I don't think we actually have much money left, 18 signings come with plenty of signing on fees, agent costs and wage bills. Yeah ok we were just bidding for Thomas-Asante for a laugh. Tbh I think he was right down our target list maybe on the reverse page or another sheet altogether. Seems we allocated Ā£5M for a frontline striker and were still trying to get one right until the end. Whether placing that limit on that one big deal proves sensible only time will tell. Could we have upped it to Ā£7M and dropped the Bae deal or Ā£9M and dropped the Burger deal? Iām pretty comfortable with it I think our striker targets went for way too much money. I suspect Mr Neil wont agreed wit you if he doesnt make january which seems highly likely , heās already started the 2 weeks showed me a lot and none of what he said after was glowing to be answered by Martins Neil had a say in all of them
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Post by baconburger on Sept 18, 2023 13:49:11 GMT
Yeah ok we were just bidding for Thomas-Asante for a laugh. Tbh I think he was right down our target list maybe on the reverse page or another sheet altogether. Seems we allocated Ā£5M for a frontline striker and were still trying to get one right until the end. Whether placing that limit on that one big deal proves sensible only time will tell. Could we have upped it to Ā£7M and dropped the Bae deal or Ā£9M and dropped the Burger deal? Iām pretty comfortable with it I think our striker targets went for way too much money. I suspect Mr Neil wont agreed wit you if he doesnt make january which seems highly likely , heās already started the 2 weeks showed me a lot and none of what Ā he said after was glowing to be answered by Martins Neil had a say in all of themĀ Nanoo Nanoo.
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Post by pavel on Sept 18, 2023 18:39:47 GMT
I will be honest, I think we have had a decent summer. We have signed some proven Championship players on free transfers (Johnson, Rose, Stevens, etc.). We have picked up some good loans (McNally, Travers, Hoever, etc.). We have signed some really promising younger player (Burger, Jun-Ho, Junior, etc.) Then we have the foreign legion in their mid-20s (Vidigal, Mmaee, Lewis, Wesley, Hazsabanovic, etc.). There is definitely a decent group of players there, but AN has to get them gelled together, work out his best team, and find a system that suits them. There is plenty to work with though! Yep totally agree apart from I would say he should have bought these players in to suit the system he wants to play, he shouldn't have to find a system to suit them. that's been the muddled thinking at Stoke for years.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 18, 2023 18:52:24 GMT
I will be honest, I think we have had a decent summer. We have signed some proven Championship players on free transfers (Johnson, Rose, Stevens, etc.). We have picked up some good loans (McNally, Travers, Hoever, etc.). We have signed some really promising younger player (Burger, Jun-Ho, Junior, etc.) Then we have the foreign legion in their mid-20s (Vidigal, Mmaee, Lewis, Wesley, Hazsabanovic, etc.). There is definitely a decent group of players there, but AN has to get them gelled together, work out his best team, and find a system that suits them. There is plenty to work with though! Yep totally agree apart from I would say he should have bought these players in to suit the system he wants to play, he shouldn't have to find a system to suit them. that's been the muddled thinking at Stoke for years. Point one: I'm pretty sure he expected to get a course and distance front line striker. Point two: How is he supposed to recruit to how he wants to play when he has no more idea than Santa Claus how these players will adapt to championship football. We certainly couldn't afford proven course and distance for the amount of signings we've had to make. Point three: You do realise we're about Ā£10M in profit on player trading since AN arrived. He's not been given a war chest a'la Rowett.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 18, 2023 19:16:17 GMT
I will be honest, I think we have had a decent summer. We have signed some proven Championship players on free transfers (Johnson, Rose, Stevens, etc.). We have picked up some good loans (McNally, Travers, Hoever, etc.). We have signed some really promising younger player (Burger, Jun-Ho, Junior, etc.) Then we have the foreign legion in their mid-20s (Vidigal, Mmaee, Lewis, Wesley, Hazsabanovic, etc.). There is definitely a decent group of players there, but AN has to get them gelled together, work out his best team, and find a system that suits them. There is plenty to work with though! Yep totally agree apart from I would say he should have bought these players in to suit the system he wants to play, he shouldn't have to find a system to suit them. that's been the muddled thinking at Stoke for years. I think that is a fair point. However, I often get the sense that AN's thinking revolves around reacting to the opposition. Hence why we chop and change formation on a relatively regular basis. I think our lack of identity and preferred system has been a major factor in AN's lack of success so far.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 18, 2023 19:18:39 GMT
So who are the culture architects then? š¤£ Pearson, Johnson, Wilmot, Stevens, and Laurent? Maybe Travers? Cultural architects tend to be more senior figures in a group - so those above would be my guess.
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Post by Gods on Sept 18, 2023 21:00:55 GMT
So who are the culture architects then? š¤£ Tricky Ricky is truly master of the corporate psycho-babble. He must be the only person on the planet who takes these lower middle management training courses seriously enough to parrot the utter tripe you get on them. At some point he'll be carted off by men in white coats, the only thing you don't know is exactly when! š
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Post by baconburger on Sept 19, 2023 7:20:17 GMT
So who are the culture architects then? š¤£ Tricky Ricky is truly master of the corporate psycho-babble. He must be the only person on the planet who takes these lower middle management training courses seriously enough to parrot the utter tripe you get on them. At some point he'll be carted off by men in white coats, the only thing you don't know is exactly when! š I take it like myself you no longer work because the world of work in almost any largish organisation is absolutely chock full of people spouting exactly the same sort of bollox.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 19, 2023 7:56:23 GMT
Tricky Ricky is truly master of the corporate psycho-babble. He must be the only person on the planet who takes these lower middle management training courses seriously enough to parrot the utter tripe you get on them. At some point he'll be carted off by men in white coats, the only thing you don't know is exactly when! š I take it like myself you no longer work because the world of work in almost any largish organisation is absolutely chock full of people spouting exactly the same sort of bollox. Itās a worry though as he seems to have bought Jared with him both style over substance , would apppear to be the current unequivocal evidence unless something rapidly improves . Feels like we threw baby and bath water out over the summer back and front of house .
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 19, 2023 8:12:53 GMT
My problems are not SCFC related mate Hope your ok bud
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 19, 2023 8:36:35 GMT
My problems are not SCFC related mate Hope your ok bud Thanks man
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Post by thornestein on Sept 19, 2023 9:41:02 GMT
the next 5 or 6 games will tell if data driven transfers are successful or not
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Post by baconburger on Sept 19, 2023 12:04:03 GMT
the next 5 or 6 games will tell if data driven transfers are successful or not Theyāre already proven to be successful see Brentford. We might do it better or worse than they have but you canāt argue with it as a philosophy. Whatever method you use to select players some people just have ridiculously high expectations of what success in transfer dealings looks like. If over 50% of your deals are successful youāre doing really well whatever method of selection. Even management greats didnāt get much more than that correct. If you want a guarantee go to Argos.
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Post by redwalter on Sept 25, 2023 7:46:52 GMT
Love it if he did his video on stoke site , with his usp on signing a veteran left back only 1 and the 2 centre halves on the their quality of canāt tackle, canāt head it and have no pace
Ricky go back to singing for a living
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 25, 2023 8:43:11 GMT
Eh, I'd be surprised if he had equal say, if any, as the manager when it comes to signings.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 25, 2023 8:45:53 GMT
The defenders seem to be able to get up and head it clear if it's between the penalty area and half way line but in our own penalty area its as if they have magnetic boots on
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 25, 2023 8:46:28 GMT
Weird post, itās down the manager. Heās behind every signing as confirmed by Jared.
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Post by gawa on Sept 25, 2023 8:55:09 GMT
Ricky was living la vida loca.
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Post by s7oke on Sept 25, 2023 9:02:31 GMT
Odd post Think he did well personally
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 25, 2023 9:14:27 GMT
Ricky Martin reminds me of a back street 2nd hand car salesman.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 25, 2023 9:17:53 GMT
Weird post, itās down the manager. Heās behind every signing as confirmed by Jared. In which case why does our manRicky do for his handsome reward ,? Heās beginning ot male Mark Cartwright look like a technical genius
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