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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 13, 2024 10:24:14 GMT
It sounds like there is a toxic atmosphere at the club, both on and on the pitch. Removing these two chancers now might improve things somewhat. Well seeing that other post in the Schumacher thread is deeply concerning for everyone. Sorry.to be thick but which post and what did. It say is it the blocked video one?.
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 13, 2024 11:48:16 GMT
I'm not sure of Martin's background but when he talks KPIs, I realise that common sense has gone out of the window. For example; there could be a situation where a top, top, player whose KPIs were of less value than an average player, what happens there, who do we buy? I'd rather, Schumacher, Hughes, Pulis identify a good player, than a suit. Centre halves? Computer says 'No'! And that's where it all goes wrong. It seems the computer said yes to, Wesley and Mmaee. Yet in the January window goal scorers were the priority. I wonder what the computer would make of Martin's KPIs?
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Post by sticky on Feb 13, 2024 11:56:25 GMT
I know this is a very shallow way of thinking but, I only had to look at the bloke and took a dislike to him. I feel i know a little more about him now and that gives me confidence in my judgement A lot of truth in that, you can just tell he’s a bullshitter/charmer type. Could easily see him in eastenders playing the part of a love rat. I feel sorry for JC tbh, must he horrible having people trying pull your pants down all the time, I thought he’d of been sacked this week tbf, any sort of disharmony between Ricky and schuey and he needs to be removed
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 13, 2024 12:28:00 GMT
"The director of football, whatever his name is"
Not much respect there from TP
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 13, 2024 12:37:30 GMT
I know this is a very shallow way of thinking but, I only had to look at the bloke and took a dislike to him. I feel i know a little more about him now and that gives me confidence in my judgement A lot of truth in that, you can just tell he’s a bullshitter/charmer type. Could easily see him in eastenders playing the part of a love rat. I feel sorry for JC tbh, must he horrible having people trying pull your pants down all the time, I thought he’d of been sacked this week tbf, any sort of disharmony between Ricky and schuey and he needs to be removed It's why these decisions need taking out of JC's hands, he can't be allowed to keep getting conned or making bad choices. He/the family need to appoint a CEO and then allow that CEO to oversee the running of the club with a Sporting Director beneath them.
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Post by Timmy on Feb 13, 2024 12:40:30 GMT
Bring back Tony Scholes
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Post by ceejays on Feb 13, 2024 12:46:09 GMT
One does wonder why Peter isn’t involved ( or doesn’t seem to be ) in the major decisions. What you think dad ? type of arrangement. Perhaps he does but it doesn’t feel like that’s the case . Recently a sponsor opened a unit in his Manchester office and invited Stoke legends and friends. Peter attended . John didn’t . So he still has a connection though not hands on . We certainly don’t want Scholes back . After all the years they’ve been involved you’d have thought they would know a suitable candidate rather than letting AN pick his mate
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 13, 2024 16:55:21 GMT
I’ wasn’t unsure however bad things got I’d ever give up on Stoke city but you just found it.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 13, 2024 18:35:16 GMT
Can't believe this clown not only kept his job after Neil was sacked but was involved in choosing the next manager.
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Post by Gods on Feb 13, 2024 18:39:08 GMT
One does wonder why Peter isn’t involved ( or doesn’t seem to be ) in the major decisions. What you think dad ? type of arrangement. Perhaps he does but it doesn’t feel like that’s the case . Recently a sponsor opened a unit in his Manchester office and invited Stoke legends and friends. Peter attended . John didn’t . So he still has a connection though not hands on . We certainly don’t want Scholes back . After all the years they’ve been involved you’d have thought they would know a suitable candidate rather than letting AN pick his mate I have pondered this too. I suppose Peter Coates is 86, which is Joe Biden +5. Perhaps he'd rather just be at home with his horlicks.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 13, 2024 19:45:28 GMT
"The director of football, whatever his name is" Not much respect there from TP Very telling
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 10:29:51 GMT
"The director of football, whatever his name is" Not much respect there from TP I can't see a scenario where TP would've worked under a DOF, whether it be Martin or anyone else. TP is very much old school, but it worked.
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 17, 2024 17:22:25 GMT
Great observations from John Percy of The Daily Telegraph…
“In an open letter to supporters from chief operating officer Simon King and Ricky Martin on May 11,2023 they said: “We have a vision of what we want our team to look like and a clear plan for how we get there. A big summer lies ahead, building a squad that delivers the high-tempo, aggressive, front-foot football that we believe you want to see and that can deliver substantial progression for our club.”
“The reality is that Stoke are light years away from any of that. Perhaps the seeds were sown during the disastrous pre-season training camp on the Costa Blanca. The training pitches were abysmal and the facilities so poor that one member of staff allegedly injured himself using a weights machine in the gymnasium while doing a demonstration for players. What must the Coates family think of the club’s summer transfer business?”
“Stoke had worked so hard to comply with the English Football League’s profit and sustainability rules, restricting spending over the past two seasons. There was one stage when it appeared Stoke were set to receive sanctions, but the club’s determination to lower their cost base was admirable. The bet365 Stadium was even sold back to the owners before the EFL’s rules on ground sales were amended weeks later.”
“That focus on finances makes Martin’s scattergun transfer strategy over the summer all the more inexplicable. Nineteen signings were brought in, but Martin somehow managed to still make the squad unbalanced and short of options in key areas.”
“No leaders, or a quality centre-forward and centre-half, were signed despite the finance available. Chiquinho, a winger signed on loan from Wolves, was swiftly sent back after clashing with Neil. Goalkeeper Mark Travers impressed after signing on loan from Bournemouth and then was recalled outside of the window, leaving Stoke unable to sign a replacement until January. While that was unfortunate, it also hinted at poor planning.”
“As results nosedived, during the November international break the players were given a week off and it is alleged that Neil went to Dubai on holiday. On their return Stoke lost three on the bounce, conceding nine goals.”
“The mood at the training ground was low. The departure of popular coaches Kevin Russell, Danny Pugh and Jimmy Hunter did not go down well with some. Stoke announced that Gareth Owen, the academy director and a former player, was to leave but then after interviewing various candidates, they asked him to stay.”
HOW the hell is he still in a job? 😔 The longer he is, the bigger a fool John Coates looks.
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 17, 2024 17:27:25 GMT
He has to go. Even if we stay up, so many recruitment mistakes have led to this season being a disaster.
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 17, 2024 20:09:07 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes
Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect
Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 17, 2024 20:16:48 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard What’s not clear is what the truth is , what is clear is parties are now briefing against each other with stories about both finding their way out , , selections are based On anything but merit and we are on an inexorable march to league one . As I said a week ago I think it’s inevitable ending now with us being relegated , but the only long shot. would be to remove them all now .
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 17, 2024 20:18:05 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard What’s not clear is what the truth is , what is clear is parties are now bfrieginv against each other , selections are base. On anything but merit and we are on an inexorable march to league one . As I said a week ago I think it’s inevitable ending now with us being relegated , but the only long shot. would be to remove them all now . o agree Ben, I think he's the issue and Coates needs to sort it
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 17, 2024 20:25:15 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard If true then for me Tricky has to pack his Dolce and Gabbana man-bag and get gone.
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Post by emretezzy on Feb 17, 2024 20:31:54 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard You are nearly right. Martin is hanging on by a thread after 4 players didn't want to be in the squad today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 20:35:26 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard You are nearly right. Martin is hanging on by a thread after 4 players didn't want to be in the squad today. Didn’t want to be in the squad? What’s this? What have I missed?
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 17, 2024 20:36:45 GMT
I've heard today and it could well be bollocks but here goes Apparently all is not good between Martin and Schumacher, Martin has demanded that Schumacher doesn't pick foreign players as he sees this as the root cause as to were we are now, Martin has told Schumacher that the team today should only be British players and Schuey has responded as you'd expect Now I actually can't see this to be the case and it would surprise me, but just reporting what I've heard You are nearly right. Martin is hanging on by a thread after 4 players didn't want to be in the squad today. glad that wasnt just me that heard these whispers, Martin has to go, and if we are having a DoF ffs get an experienced football man
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 17, 2024 20:37:21 GMT
You are nearly right. Martin is hanging on by a thread after 4 players didn't want to be in the squad today. Didn’t want to be in the squad? What’s this? What have I missed?
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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 17, 2024 20:38:43 GMT
You are nearly right. Martin is hanging on by a thread after 4 players didn't want to be in the squad today. Didn’t want to be in the squad? What’s this? What have I missed? allegedly Martin is overstepping the mark and telling Schuey who to pick
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 20:42:35 GMT
Didn’t want to be in the squad? What’s this? What have I missed? If any of this is true, he’s a dead man walking and I hope it’s true. How the fuck did we end up with the prick? Very naive of our board to take Alex Neil’s mate on and give him the keys to the club. Fuck him off now and if we must have a DOF, get someone in who knows the club inside out. We all know who.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 17, 2024 20:44:47 GMT
So the technical director that doesn’t like the foreign players, signed a foreign player for £4m on deadline day.
Big fat fucking load of orate then.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 17, 2024 20:44:51 GMT
Didn’t want to be in the squad? What’s this? What have I missed? It's one of the most ridiculous rumours I've ever read. Who oversaw the recruitment of all of these foreign players in the summer? Who oversaw the recruitment of the Four Million Pound Manhoef in January? The only evidence of this theory is that Mmaee, Vidigal and Haksabanovic are all missing, as if that can't easily be accounted for by their levels of effort and competence. I bet there will be a follow up saying that Ricky Martin's second best friend is Gareth Ainsworth.
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 17, 2024 20:45:26 GMT
This is dynamite stuff if true.
There is generally no smoke without fire and it does explain a few things.
What a clusterfuck shitshow of running a professional wealthy football club.
Hang your heads in shame.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 20:46:48 GMT
People can point their fingers as much as they want. There is one man at the head of all this and all roads lead back to him.
John Coates.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 17, 2024 20:53:39 GMT
This is dynamite stuff if true. There is generally no smoke without fire and it does explain a few things. What a clusterfuck shitshow of running a professional wealthy football club. Hang your heads in shame. It's like the fact that all Vale fans smell like piss, sweat and shit, now why would anyone say it if it weren't true? There is no smoke without fire. Tricky to the Vale to replace Flitcroft I say.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Feb 17, 2024 20:54:05 GMT
Who didn't see issues with the ex-managers mate working with a new manager? That's before you throw in his total lack of experience as a technical director.
Another ridiculous chapter in the recent history of this football club.
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