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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2023 7:08:21 GMT
Gooch will play LB, that's how they have been training. Travers out probably for next 2 games. Can probably stomach Bonham for 2 games max. But your heart sinks when you see him on the team sheet. Do we know how long Stevens is out for?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 14, 2023 7:30:02 GMT
Gooch will play LB, that's how they have been training. Travers out probably for next 2 games. Can probably stomach Bonham for 2 games max. But your heart sinks when you see him on the team sheet. Do we know how long Stevens is out for? Is Bonham THAT bad? Granted, he’s no Travers, especially given how well Travers has started, but I don’t think Bonham is as bad as everyone thinks. Regardless, will be a very tough game Saturday. If we take anything from it we’ll have done well.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 14, 2023 7:34:21 GMT
Football is a funny game. I wouldn't be surprised if we pivot from the first home defeat to win - or at least play well - v a tough rival. Having said that I wouldn't be surprised if we lost 3-0. This is Stoke after all.
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Post by apb1 on Sept 14, 2023 7:35:47 GMT
Can probably stomach Bonham for 2 games max. But your heart sinks when you see him on the team sheet. Do we know how long Stevens is out for? Is Bonham THAT bad? Granted, he’s no Travers, especially given how well Travers has started, but I don’t think Bonham is as bad as everyone thinks. Regardless, will be a very tough game Saturday. If we take anything from it we’ll have done well. He's not Butland at his worst throw it in his net bad. But he's not convincing and that spreads through a team. I remember settling in my seat at Reading just as the clown show between him and Flint allowed them to go 1-0 up.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2023 7:42:07 GMT
Need more of a sample size to really form an opinion on Norwich - but I don't think they're on the list of teams where you're seeing it as a probable defeat before kick-off.
Before the season started, mot of their fans and pundits were viewing them as mid-table fodder. They've had a couple of decent results and the feelgood factor has returned to their fans to a degree - but also lost to Rotherham last time out. And when you look at their squad, it's not intimidating.
With Bonham, it isn't so much his shot-stopping, even though that's below average - it's just that he seems to make his defence very nervous. He was only ever seen as emergency cover here when we brought him in as third choice, and the fact that he's ever had a decent run of games at this level really doesn't speak well of our recent planning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2023 7:45:59 GMT
Gooch will play LB, that's how they have been training. Travers out probably for next 2 games. That's Stevens and Travers starting then, great news.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 14, 2023 9:02:20 GMT
Far from writing him off but Mmaee has done nothing to suggest he’s ahead of Wesley for CF just yet Completely different type of forwards. Mmaee looks mobile and in there to score goals in a fluid front three. Wesley is a target man who won't score that many but will bring others into play. I think Mmaee is part of Plan A when we are looking to take the game to the opposition and Wesley is Plan B when we find ourselves on the back foot and need an outlet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2023 9:04:28 GMT
Can probably stomach Bonham for 2 games max. But your heart sinks when you see him on the team sheet. Do we know how long Stevens is out for? Is Bonham THAT bad? Granted, he’s no Travers, especially given how well Travers has started, but I don’t think Bonham is as bad as everyone thinks. Regardless, will be a very tough game Saturday. If we take anything from it we’ll have done well. He's a passable second choice for a Championship team.
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Post by march4 on Sept 14, 2023 9:11:09 GMT
Far from writing him off but Mmaee has done nothing to suggest he’s ahead of Wesley for CF just yet Neither of them have done much to say they are ahead of TC or Gayle. Hope Mmaee is settling to English football. He is the one who can make the role his own.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2023 9:34:01 GMT
Football is a funny game. I wouldn't be surprised if we pivot from the first home defeat to win - or at least play well - v a tough rival. Having said that I wouldn't be surprised if we lost 3-0. This is Stoke after all. 3-0 would be an improvement on what im expecting
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2023 9:36:07 GMT
Is Bonham that bad?
Absolutely he is.
What do people actually watch?!?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 14, 2023 9:36:45 GMT
Is Bonham that bad? Absolutely he is. What do people actually watch?!? He's one of the worst goalkeepers we've had in the last 20 years at least.
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Post by Absolution on Sept 14, 2023 10:45:42 GMT
Is Bonham that bad? Absolutely he is. What do people actually watch?!? He's one of the worst goalkeepers we've had in the last 20 years at least. Bonham's problem was encapsulated in one match at the fag end of last season when he pulled off a worldy, only to completely f@ck up the resultant corner to concede the goal. He'd probably be an excellent third choice keeper, but as second choice, he's far too close to the nuclear button for my liking. As a one off, we might be OK with him, he might even be motm, but a run of games will completely undo us.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 14, 2023 10:47:35 GMT
Is Bonham that bad? Absolutely he is. What do people actually watch?!? He's one of the worst goalkeepers we've had in the last 20 years at least. We’ve had some bloody good keepers in the last 20 years though. He’s nowhere near as bad as some make out…….
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 14, 2023 10:52:50 GMT
He's one of the worst goalkeepers we've had in the last 20 years at least. We’ve had some bloody good keepers in the last 20 years though. He’s nowhere near as bad as some make out……. We have, absolutely - Pulis knew a keeper when he saw one for the most part. I never feel confident when I see Bonham's name on the teamsheet though, he redefines 'jittery'.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 14, 2023 10:57:12 GMT
Can probably stomach Bonham for 2 games max. But your heart sinks when you see him on the team sheet. Do we know how long Stevens is out for? Is Bonham THAT bad? Granted, he’s no Travers, especially given how well Travers has started, but I don’t think Bonham is as bad as everyone thinks. Regardless, will be a very tough game Saturday. If we take anything from it we’ll have done well. If Bonham plays,our chances of getting anything from the game drops,he rarely keeps a clean sheet,plus it seems more often than not,he lets the 1st shot on target in.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 14, 2023 11:10:24 GMT
We’ve had some bloody good keepers in the last 20 years though. He’s nowhere near as bad as some make out……. We have, absolutely - Pulis knew a keeper when he saw one for the most part. I never feel confident when I see Bonham's name on the teamsheet though, he redefines 'jittery'. I'm not saying he's top class by any stretch but he conceded just over a goal a game last season and he's not the car crash some seem to think he is. He doesn't do anything brilliantly but he didn't make a load of howlers either.........
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2023 11:15:43 GMT
We’ve got to put a better performance on than the last 2 visits surely after the 4-1 and 3-1 losses over the last 2 seasons.Josh Sargeant is a big miss for them but all the attention is on Jonathan Rowe this season so it’ll be interesting how we go about dealing with him
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 14, 2023 11:19:18 GMT
Is Bonham THAT bad? Granted, he’s no Travers, especially given how well Travers has started, but I don’t think Bonham is as bad as everyone thinks. Regardless, will be a very tough game Saturday. If we take anything from it we’ll have done well. If Bonham plays,our chances of getting anything from the game drops,he rarely keeps a clean sheet,plus it seems more often than not,he lets the 1st shot on target in. He kept 6 clean sheets in 22 starts. Travers has kept 1 in 5 this season.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Sept 14, 2023 11:45:11 GMT
Have we ever beaten Norwich away? Just seems one of those fixtures that we are bound to lose whatever team/system we play.....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2023 11:49:05 GMT
Have we ever beaten Norwich away? Just seems one of those fixtures that we are bound to lose whatever team/system we play..... Yes in the Rowett season with an own goal and in the promotion season with Mama’s back header from Delap’s throw. Both good wins but backs to the wall in both games if I remember rightly
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2023 11:52:51 GMT
Have we ever beaten Norwich away? Just seems one of those fixtures that we are bound to lose whatever team/system we play..... Yes in the Rowett season with an own goal and in the promotion season with Mama’s back header from Delap’s throw. Both good wins but backs to the wall in both games if I remember rightly the win under GR we didn't have a single shot on target (the gaol was a deflected cross) , Butland had a good game
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2023 11:54:29 GMT
Yes in the Rowett season with an own goal and in the promotion season with Mama’s back header from Delap’s throw. Both good wins but backs to the wall in both games if I remember rightly the win under GR we didn't have a single shot on target (the gaol was a deflected cross) , Butland had a good game Butland was outstanding in the game we drew 1-1 as well mate under Hughes
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 14, 2023 11:57:04 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2023 11:58:07 GMT
Brilliant ending to that game and snowball fights outside after🤣
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 14, 2023 11:58:19 GMT
Have we ever beaten Norwich away? Just seems one of those fixtures that we are bound to lose whatever team/system we play..... Yes in the Rowett season with an own goal and in the promotion season with Mama’s back header from Delap’s throw.Both good wins but backs to the wall in both games if I remember rightly I was one of the 333 who travelled. Proper smash and grab.........
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2023 11:59:49 GMT
Yes in the Rowett season with an own goal and in the promotion season with Mama’s back header from Delap’s throw.Both good wins but backs to the wall in both games if I remember rightly I was one of the 333 who travelled. Proper smash and grab......... It was a massive win as well mate around that time
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Post by skemstokie on Sept 14, 2023 12:16:32 GMT
What is A50 like for roadworks at the moment?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2023 12:19:22 GMT
Bonham
Junior Wilmot mcnally Hoever
Burger Pearson
Bae
Campbell mmaee Vidigal
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Post by Veritas on Sept 14, 2023 12:25:40 GMT
What is A50 like for roadworks at the moment? None anywhere near the ground
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