Alex Neil

[karl]

I wonder how many games he has left to turn things around?

[NassauDave]

Sept 28, 2023 20:22:24 GMT karl said:

I wonder how many games he has left to turn things around?

One too many.

[leegthestokie90]

Carl hoefkens would of been good manger for us but was appointed standard leige manger couple months ago

[somersetpotter]

Sept 28, 2023 18:37:42 GMT stormin said:

Sept 2, 2023 15:56:37 GMT somersetpotter said:

It’s early doors this season, but he has to do a lot to convince me he’s the best man for the job.

While I don't advocate this as a solution but how is it that Neil Warnock can walk into any club and make it perform.

that is a good question, although I still wouldn't go with Warnock. 

[scfcnicholas]

Bar Leicester I don’t see any which game as harder than any other. Everyone else looks fairly shit. This “hard run of games” incoming is mainly a nonsense. This is another crap league in terms of quality again like last season brought on by the cliff drop ffp regs. Trends probably only going to continue

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2023 12:43:44 GMT scfcnicholas said:

Bar Leicester I don’t see any which game as harder than any other. Everyone else looks fairly shit. This “hard run of games” incoming is mainly a nonsense. This is another crap league in terms of quality again like last season brought on by the cliff drop ffp regs. Trends probably only going to continue

The problem is we are a lot crapper than the other crap teams.

So in that sense it is a tough run of games.

[baconburger]

Sept 29, 2023 3:00:45 GMT leegthestokie90 said:

Carl hoefkens would of been good manger for us but was appointed standard leige manger couple months ago

He’s probably still tired.

[peterthornesboots]

Sept 29, 2023 12:43:44 GMT scfcnicholas said:

Bar Leicester I don’t see any which game as harder than any other. Everyone else looks fairly shit. This “hard run of games” incoming is mainly a nonsense. This is another crap league in terms of quality again like last season brought on by the cliff drop ffp regs. Trends probably only going to continue

I think Bristol have only lost one match at home so far (when they were down to ten men) whilst we have failed to win on the road yet.

Southampton have a decent squad. They are underperforming right now, which might play into our hands (hopefully).

Ultimately, we are so out of form at the moment that the Dog and Duck would be a difficult game for us. 😂

[wakefieldstokie]

I think we’ll beat Southampton

[thisisouryear]

Hopefully same formation as against Bournemouth to give the players some consistency whilst they gel and players playing in their best positions. They will make mistakes but that's just part of new teammates learning to understand eachothers strengths and weaknesses. If AN changes formation again and we lose then he should be gone before the players get back to the dressing room. We have good players but a new team can't be asked to run before they can walk, AN needs to keep it simple and play players to the formation they were signed for. Tweaks can be made later in the season if needed once the players have started to build better relationships.

Plenty of fans will still support him if he stops overcomplicating games, I won't be one of them but I won't be calling for him to be sacked every week either if he gives the players a run with a similar formation. I don't blame the players for recent results, it's definitely on AN. Bournemouth was a step in the right direction despite the result, they are just way ahead of us as a team but hopefully the players learned a few things about eachother and can build on it. AN has set this team back several games so hopefully he's learned from it too and we can move forward from here onwards.

[Bojan Mackey]

Sept 29, 2023 19:00:41 GMT thisisouryear said:

Hopefully same formation as against Bournemouth to give the players some consistency whilst they gel and players playing in their best positions. They will make mistakes but that's just part of new teammates learning to understand eachothers strengths and weaknesses. If AN changes formation again and we lose then he should be gone before the players get back to the dressing room. We have good players but a new team can't be asked to run before they can walk, AN needs to keep it simple and play players to the formation they were signed for. Tweaks can be made later in the season if needed once the players have started to build better relationships.

Plenty of fans will still support him if he stops overcomplicating games, I won't be one of them but I won't be calling for him to be sacked every week either if he gives the players a run with a similar formation. I don't blame the players for recent results, it's definitely on AN. Bournemouth was a step in the right direction despite the result, they are just way ahead of us as a team but hopefully the players learned a few things about eachother and can build on it. AN has set this team back several games so hopefully he's learned from it too and we can move forward from here onwards.

If Alex Neil’s tenure at this club has shown one thing it’s that he absolutely does not learn a single thing from previous matches.

It’s like as soon as he gets to the changing rooms after the full time whistle Tommy Lee Jones emerges from a locker and zaps him with the men in black memory wipe dildo.

[thisisouryear]

Sept 29, 2023 19:07:51 GMT Bojan Mackey said:

Sept 29, 2023 19:00:41 GMT thisisouryear said:

Hopefully same formation as against Bournemouth to give the players some consistency whilst they gel and players playing in their best positions. They will make mistakes but that's just part of new teammates learning to understand eachothers strengths and weaknesses. If AN changes formation again and we lose then he should be gone before the players get back to the dressing room. We have good players but a new team can't be asked to run before they can walk, AN needs to keep it simple and play players to the formation they were signed for. Tweaks can be made later in the season if needed once the players have started to build better relationships.

Plenty of fans will still support him if he stops overcomplicating games, I won't be one of them but I won't be calling for him to be sacked every week either if he gives the players a run with a similar formation. I don't blame the players for recent results, it's definitely on AN. Bournemouth was a step in the right direction despite the result, they are just way ahead of us as a team but hopefully the players learned a few things about eachother and can build on it. AN has set this team back several games so hopefully he's learned from it too and we can move forward from here onwards.

If Alex Neil’s tenure at this club has shown one thing it’s that he absolutely does not learn a single thing from previous matches.

It’s like as soon as he gets to the changing rooms after the full time whistle Tommy Lee Jones emerges from a locker and zaps him with the men in black memory wipe dildo.

He has to learn, at the moment he is the problem. I really like a lot of these new signings and he is holding them back pissing around with different formations when they don't know eachother well enough to adapt game by game. With some structure we have a very good group of players, probably the best since relegation, he needs to give them some stability. He's ruining a good thing he started, it almost feels like he wants the sack.

[benjaminbiscuit]

Sept 29, 2023 19:18:10 GMT thisisouryear said:

Sept 29, 2023 19:07:51 GMT Bojan Mackey said:

If Alex Neil’s tenure at this club has shown one thing it’s that he absolutely does not learn a single thing from previous matches.

It’s like as soon as he gets to the changing rooms after the full time whistle Tommy Lee Jones emerges from a locker and zaps him with the men in black memory wipe dildo.

He has to learn, at the moment he is the problem. I really like a lot of these new signings and he is holding them back pissing around with different formations when they don't know eachother well enough to adapt game by game. With some structure we have a very good group of players, probably the best since relegation, he needs to give them some stability. He's ruining a good thing he started, it almost feels like he wants the sack.

Beg to differ I see no evidence to suggest any but vidigal and travers would improve on last years squad 

[Staffsoatcake]

When AN is been interviewed,why don't they ask why he more of less, keeps picking the same defenders who let us down game after gane?

[thornestein]

Sept 30, 2023 10:54:21 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

When AN is been interviewed,why don't they ask why he more of less, keeps picking the same defenders who let us down game after gane?

because we don’t have anymore to play

[Staffsoatcake]

Sept 30, 2023 10:58:01 GMT thornestein said:

Sept 30, 2023 10:54:21 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

When AN is been interviewed,why don't they ask why he more of less, keeps picking the same defenders who let us down game after gane?

because we don’t have anymore to play

We have that young lad we chased all summer.

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2023 12:43:44 GMT scfcnicholas said:

Bar Leicester I don’t see any which game as harder than any other. Everyone else looks fairly shit. This “hard run of games” incoming is mainly a nonsense. This is another crap league in terms of quality again like last season brought on by the cliff drop ffp regs. Trends probably only going to continue

We'll make them all hard games. Guaranteed.

[boskampsflaps]

Sept 27, 2023 20:47:44 GMT starkiller said:

Sept 27, 2023 20:40:00 GMT comeonstokeee said:

Neil OUT!!! Question is who we going get in replace him. Probably be the same recycled managers from the championship

I'd take Warnock over this. At least he won't be choosing players based on a spreadsheet.

Rowett in.

[boskampsflaps]

Sept 30, 2023 11:28:52 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

Sept 30, 2023 10:58:01 GMT thornestein said:

because we don’t have anymore to play

We have that young lad we chased all summer.

The CBs have been the problem.

[silsdenstokie]

Ive said it before but given the situation we are in Id take Warnock right now
Very short term but he woukd keep us up. We then have to pray that the powers that be stumble across a Lou type appointment in summer

[thornestein]

Sept 30, 2023 11:28:52 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

Sept 30, 2023 10:58:01 GMT thornestein said:

because we don’t have anymore to play

We have that young lad we chased all summer.

thought you were on about CB’s tbh as it’s them at fault for most the goals

[vidigal7]

Sept 27, 2023 20:47:44 GMT starkiller said:

Sept 27, 2023 20:40:00 GMT comeonstokeee said:

Neil OUT!!! Question is who we going get in replace him. Probably be the same recycled managers from the championship

I'd take Warnock over this. At least he won't be choosing players based on a spreadsheet.

Well it was welcomed at the time, I didn't see much criticism about our approach to the market this last summer.

Considering we had 17 new players to bring in this summer we had a go in the foreign market to try to pick up a gem or two and value for money. How would you ( or anybody else for that matter) have approached the market this summer considering so much needed doing?

I'm still not convinced it's been a failure yet and Coates after the amount of changes won't even consider firing the manager until we're at least not mathematically in contention for a play off place.

17 new players don't click overnight, I know it sounds like harping on but that's a reality.

Some of the foreign lads won't settle either, nobody gets 100% of transfers bang on, not least foreign transfers, it's always a calculated gamble. So if we need 17 new players in one summer window what are chances of instant success?

[OldStokie]

Sept 30, 2023 12:00:34 GMT vidigal7 said:

Sept 27, 2023 20:47:44 GMT starkiller said:

I'd take Warnock over this. At least he won't be choosing players based on a spreadsheet.

Well it was welcomed at the time, I didn't see much criticism about our approach to the market this last summer.

Considering we had 17 new players to bring in this summer we had a go in the foreign market to try to pick up a gem or two and value for money. How would you ( or anybody else for that matter) have approached the market this summer considering so much needed doing?

I'm still not convinced it's been a failure yet and Coates after the amount of changes won't even consider firing the manager until we're at least not mathematically in contention for a play off place.

17 new players don't click overnight, I know it sounds like harping on but that's a reality.

Some of the foreign lads won't settle either, nobody gets 100% of transfers bang o, not least foreign transfers, it's always a calculated gamble. So if we need 17 new players in one summer window what are chances of instant success?

I agree. But we Stoke fans are not blessed with patience. Who can blame us after five years of the shit we've had to put up with? Fingers crossed and given time I still think he'll turn a sows ear into a silk purse. His record in the past has proved that he's a good manager.

OS.

[chigstoke]

Sept 30, 2023 11:41:25 GMT silsdenstokie said:

Ive said it before but given the situation we are in Id take Warnock right now
Very short term but he woukd keep us up. We then have to pray that the powers that be stumble across a Lou type appointment in summer

We'll be praying for a very long time then over multiple summers.
I don't think those that run the club are capable of making a good appointment given their current track record for the past 6 or so years (I'll give them MON for a while).

[Staffsoatcake]

If our best choice is Warnock if AN goes, then we are in shit street.

If they can't find a manager better than him, they shouldn't be running a football club.

[vidigal7]

Sept 30, 2023 12:10:38 GMT OldStokie said:

Sept 30, 2023 12:00:34 GMT vidigal7 said:

Well it was welcomed at the time, I didn't see much criticism about our approach to the market this last summer.

Considering we had 17 new players to bring in this summer we had a go in the foreign market to try to pick up a gem or two and value for money. How would you ( or anybody else for that matter) have approached the market this summer considering so much needed doing?

I'm still not convinced it's been a failure yet and Coates after the amount of changes won't even consider firing the manager until we're at least not mathematically in contention for a play off place.

17 new players don't click overnight, I know it sounds like harping on but that's a reality.

Some of the foreign lads won't settle either, nobody gets 100% of transfers bang o, not least foreign transfers, it's always a calculated gamble. So if we need 17 new players in one summer window what are chances of instant success?

I agree. But we Stoke fans are not blessed with patience. Who can blame us after five years of the shit we've had to put up with? Fingers crossed and given time I still think he'll turn a sows ear into a silk purse. His record in the past has proved that he's a good manager.

OS.

Couldn't agree more, it's been a bumby ride for what seems so long you're almost at the point of expecting it to fail before it's started so patience will be thin.

The thought of rolling the dice yet again though and hearing the same things, needs to bring his own in, patience needed etc etc, I'd rather just grin and bare it for a couple of seasons and let this manager have some windows to really build something to build from, if that makes sense.

We don't need another squad with multiple inputs from different managers with different ideas, that's a big part of the reason why we ended up with a shambles of a squad upto last season, for me. Was it a case of Peter picks one manager, John picks the next one and there was a difference in types of styles each wanted, who knows but it was some pigs ear

[stokiesteve]

I reckon we leave it with him and keep backing him.

Buck the trend of modern football

I don't know what else we can do

Dunno

[silsdenstokie]

Sept 30, 2023 12:15:39 GMT chigstoke said:

Sept 30, 2023 11:41:25 GMT silsdenstokie said:

Ive said it before but given the situation we are in Id take Warnock right now
Very short term but he woukd keep us up. We then have to pray that the powers that be stumble across a Lou type appointment in summer

We'll be praying for a very long time then over multiple summers.
I don't think those that run the club are capable of making a good appointment given their current track record for the past 6 or so years (I'll give them MON for a while).

In the Coates’s tenure as owners (mid 80s to 98 and 2006 to present) I think theyve hired 3 successful managers: Lou, TP (2nd time) and Hughes.
MON and Mills werent too bad for us but the rest either promised much but delivered little (unintended pun) or were just shocking

They dont have a good track record at this sort of thing and its concerning

[rickyfullerbeer]

He should get the season.

[Deleted]

It really is all on today for him because he'll lose the next two.