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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 26, 2023 21:04:44 GMT
Is it possible to have match commentary without, weather forecasts including going quiet so we can hear the rain, fashion description,strip colours, coaches tracky description, cutting off from football commentary whilst in possession to tell us how dark the sky is. How many times in a minute can we be told the score, how many times in a minute can the co-commentar be asked for his views. "Stevens taking the ball forward, there is no doubt we are in for a rainstorm." God help us,please come back Nigel.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 26, 2023 21:23:50 GMT
I thought he was decent enough. Opinions eh 🤷♂️
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Post by kerravon on Aug 26, 2023 21:28:02 GMT
He's decent enough and not nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 26, 2023 21:29:20 GMT
I listened to him today, and without stream for 10 minutes. I can’t see the problem, he was pretty good, I felt like I knew what was going on, if anything he was trying too hard, he definitely puts a lot of energy into it. This criticism is a bit weird tbh.
I’m sure he makes a few of mistakes over 90 minutes but that is a lot of commentary to cover.
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 26, 2023 21:29:39 GMT
I thought he was decent enough. Opinions eh 🤷♂️ He was, but as covered on another thread, he shouldn’t be declaring himself as neutral when virtually all of his listeners are supporting one club. Alienated himself from his audience right there and then. BM |
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 26, 2023 21:32:26 GMT
I thought he was decent enough. Opinions eh 🤷♂️ He was, but as covered on another thread, he shouldn’t be declaring himself as neutral when virtually all of his listeners are supporting one club. Alienated himself from his audience right there and then. BM He came over as rooting for Stoke to me. He’s definitely commentating from a Stoke perspective. I get it that some want it to be a fan but it’s not a problem for me personally. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 21:33:15 GMT
I thought he was decent enough. Opinions eh 🤷♂️ He was, but as covered on another thread, he shouldn’t be declaring himself as neutral when virtually all of his listeners are supporting one club. Alienated himself from his audience right there and then. BM I didn’t listen but I don’t mind that. During covid you’d listen to other clubs commentary and they were so biased. It’s terrible. Nige and Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and I like that. |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Aug 26, 2023 21:34:58 GMT
He was OK. The biassed Ipswich commentary kept saying somebody called Billy Mitchell..Thought it was another shit episode off Eastenders.
Last half an hour hoping we would score so I could hear Sohail ? commentate on a Stoke goal knowing it would never happen. Will we ever score away again .I thought we could have played another half hour and still not scored .
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2023 21:41:14 GMT
He was, but as covered on another thread, he shouldn’t be declaring himself as neutral when virtually all of his listeners are supporting one club. Alienated himself from his audience right there and then. BM He came over as rooting for Stoke to me. He’s definitely commentating from a Stoke perspective. I get it that some want it to be a fan but it’s not a problem for me personally. We shouldn't really be having this discussion about a Stoke commentator working for Radio Stoke. He should be a Stoke fan- or a former player. End of story. If I want a neutral's views, I'll watch Sky |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 21:42:39 GMT
He came over as rooting for Stoke to me. He’s definitely commentating from a Stoke perspective. I get it that some want it to be a fan but it’s not a problem for me personally. We shouldn't really be having this discussion about a Stoke commentator working for Radio Stoke. He should be a Stoke fan- or a former player. End of story Why? |
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2023 21:43:16 GMT
We shouldn't really be having this discussion about a Stoke commentator working for Radio Stoke. He should be a Stoke fan- or a former player. End of story Why? Bore off. Don't bother replying, can't be arsed going down a rabbit hole with an attention seeking contrarian like you either |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2023 21:43:58 GMT
Is it possible to have match commentary without, weather forecasts including going quiet so we can hear the rain, fashion description,strip colours, coaches tracky description, cutting off from football commentary whilst in possession to tell us how dark the sky is. How many times in a minute can we be told the score, how many times in a minute can the co-commentar be asked for his views. "Stevens taking the ball forward, there is no doubt we are in for a rainstorm." God help us,please come back Nigel. Is the other thread hard to see🙄 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 21:45:55 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. |
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2023 21:49:20 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. As I said, bore off. I can listen to neutral commentary anywhere else, it's not like Stoke are favourably covered elsewhere. On Radio Stoke I want a Potteries bias.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 21:50:49 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. As I said, bore off. And as I said good argument. You haven’t got one so resort to this shite. Pathetic. |
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Post by thevoid on Aug 26, 2023 22:00:45 GMT
As I said, bore off. And as I said good argument. You haven’t got one so resort to this shite. Pathetic. I don't want an argument with you , you sad twat. It's Saturday night and you're a complete irrelevance. But go and fap one out over another notification in your Inbox.    |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 22:04:52 GMT
And as I said good argument. You haven’t got one so resort to this shite. Pathetic. I don't want an argument with you , you sad twat. It's Saturday night and you're a complete irrelevance. But go and fap one out over another notification in your Inbox. Insults now because you don’t have the intelligence to argue and to take other opinions in, classy. |
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Post by standbutler1 on Aug 26, 2023 22:16:07 GMT
Just my opinion but he talks about the weather and surrounding's more than the action on the pitch. if you can not see the game you will miss 80% of what's happening in the game
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2023 22:30:16 GMT
I thought he was decent enough. Opinions eh 🤷♂️ He was, but as covered on another thread, he shouldn’t be declaring himself as neutral when virtually all of his listeners are supporting one club. Alienated himself from his audience right there and then. BM Don’t get that tbh Should he pretend he's a Stoke fan when we all know he isn't that would be naff imho |
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2023 22:33:02 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. Indeed just tell me what's going on, which he does Nigel Johnson was unusual in that although clearly a massive Stoke fan he was a fair commentator Usually a fan commentator is awful it's not like Sahil doesn't get animated he does |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2023 22:35:29 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. Indeed just tell me what's going on, which he does Nigel Johnson was unusual in that although clearly a massive Stoke fan he was a fair commentator Usually a fan commentator is awful it's not like Sahil doesn't get animated he does Yeah unless you knew he was a Stoke fan it wasn’t obvious he was a Stoke fan. The games during Covid really opened my eyes up to the biased shite they get around the country. Just making shit up that wasn’t going on, woe is me for their club etc. It adda nothing and takes away so much. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2023 22:41:26 GMT
Indeed just tell me what's going on, which he does Nigel Johnson was unusual in that although clearly a massive Stoke fan he was a fair commentator Usually a fan commentator is awful it's not like Sahil doesn't get animated he does Yeah unless you knew he was a Stoke fan it wasn’t obvious he was a Stoke fan. The games during Covid really opened my eyes up to the biased shite they get around the country. Just making shit up that wasn’t going on, woe is me for their club etc. It adda nothing and takes away so much. The best ones are the duo at Rotherham again clearly home fans but completely fair, say as they see it and funny too |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 26, 2023 22:47:13 GMT
Bowers Vale fan
McGarry Crewe fan
Ed Dawes Radio Derby massive Derby fan
Colin Fray Radio Nottingham,Forest fan
Being a fan of the club you commentate on is common place on the BBC and for me you’ve got to have someone who knows abit about the club and the local area,the clown at the minute doesn’t fit into that category at all
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Aug 26, 2023 22:59:08 GMT
Don't think Sohail is a Stoke fan but neither was John Acres . Don't know about Lee Blakeman or Lucas Yeomans or Rob Adcock either ?
With Sohail it sounded a bit like a boxing commentary ..
On another subject that Fail fan called Bob or Bill who rambles on the Praise and grumble phone in for 15 minutes without pausing for breath should be banned . He is on every week ..
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 26, 2023 23:04:34 GMT
He was, but as covered on another thread, he shouldn’t be declaring himself as neutral when virtually all of his listeners are supporting one club. Alienated himself from his audience right there and then. BM Don’t get that tbh Should he pretend he's a Stoke fan when we all know he isn't that would be naff imho No he isn’t a Stoke fan but he’s working for BBC Radio STOKE so just like when it’s BBC on a national basis covering England and they are rooting for England the same should apply with the people who work for the local BBC. This fella is ok as a commentator but clearly doesn’t give a monkey’s whether the club who his listeners are invested in win or lose. Just imagine if the BBC output was equally benign about England in a major tournament. BM |
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Post by stokiedan17 on Aug 26, 2023 23:05:53 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. Completely agree with this. I want to know what’s going realistally on. If we did a bad challenge I want to know it was a bad challenge, not here bias towards our player, watch a video later and think wtf was that commentator on about… Nige was great at being neutral even though being an avid stoke fan. More than once he’s got me off my seat celebrating when not paying attention fully to only find out it’s the other team who’ve scored 😂 |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 26, 2023 23:21:38 GMT
First time I've heard him, not too bad but got a bit tired of hearing that Milwall were winning 1-0 and there were dark clouds over the dockers stand.
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Post by standbutler1 on Aug 26, 2023 23:30:23 GMT
its not about who he supports its about describing the game. Not very good
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Post by callas12 on Aug 26, 2023 23:55:19 GMT
Good argument. The biased guff other local BBC radio stations air is embarrassing. Radio Stoke have always been pretty neutral and called the game pretty fairly. You don’t want some biased twat making out everything is going agains the club or what not. It’s just bad broadcasting. Indeed just tell me what's going on, which he does Nigel Johnson was unusual in that although clearly a massive Stoke fan he was a fair commentator Usually a fan commentator is awful it's not like Sahil doesn't get animated he does No ones asking for a fan commentator, purely someone who either has some affiliation to Stoke or the area or even just someone who understands what it is us Stoke fans want to hear as fans listening to a commentary.. They don't have to be biased, just someone who doesn't talk utter drivvle for 90mins. John Acres, Ivan Gaskell, Mark Elliot from last season are examples of how it can be done & should be done. None of them were from the area but all quickly became adopted Stokies whilst working for our Local Radio Station Sports Department covering Stoke City. They were generally always neutral as far as transparency and fairness of events on the pitch went but all connected to the Stoke following & for me that isn't something you can train or even adapt to, you can either do it seamlessly or you can't. Mark Elliot prime example last year, he did it with minimum of fuss and the job should have been his so long as he wanted it. Surely isn't to much to ask is it? I bet the BBC pay this new fella alot more than Blakeman & Sandoz get, for not so good a service IMHO.. |
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Post by tomcmod on Aug 27, 2023 1:28:20 GMT
This thread is quite funny. I think it would have been quite hard to show bias when you don't know what is going on or even know which player of your team has touched the ball...
Onto the current, the only thing that gets me about Sohail is when he speaks really slow and pauses after every word. He does get quite passionate about Stoke and I think the neutral comment has been taken the wrong way. I think he was more trying to say something like, "I'm not being biased but even I think Stoke should have won that game/got something out of it".
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