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Post by mcw on Apr 2, 2024 11:01:27 GMT
It's just another "tallest dwarf" comparison though. Neither of them are good enough and nor is Campbell. We need a whole new forward line I disagree strongly. Mmaee is more than good enough, his ability to keep possession in tight spaces and play on the half turn is rare at this level. Surely you could see that when he replaced Ennis? Agree with this. Originally we thought we were getting him as a 20 a goal striker. He patently isn't that, but he is or could be very good with another poacher style forward up alongside him. He may be good for 10-15 goals if played for a whole season but only if he is not played as a single stricker or if the 2 wide attacking forwards are much narrower and playing in and around him with all three then working off each other.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 2, 2024 11:24:23 GMT
Thought he did well looks like a very good number 10 It’s a shame we’re unlikely to see an in form Campbell again, the player of a few seasons back would thrive on the chances created by Mmaee. He hasn't scored 30 goals in his entire career for us He's never been as prolific as many make out
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Post by idle on Apr 2, 2024 12:08:09 GMT
5221? Fucking hell that seems overly negative? 4222 would be a lot better surely? And could work within the realms of what we have. Just don’t see the need for an extra CB when you have 2 holding(ish) midfielders already. If you bring in a wing back with pace and power on the left, it doesn’t matter if there are three at the back. Baker shouldn’t be a holding midfielder. It’s not his game. Get him close to the edge of the box and use him to do what he’s actually good at. 5221 was negative enough to see Plymouth promoted last season with 101 points. I think that it would be fine if we could recruit for a system that he knows and has had good success with. Exactly. The foramtion numbers are just that. Pep plays a 4-4-1-1, doesn't he? Or even a 4-1-4-1. It's the mentality and defensive line that sets the level of "offensive football", not numbers on the board.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 2, 2024 12:14:52 GMT
Mmaee was good when he came on, but it was stuff outside the box that was impressive. If he could be a bit more of a danger in it, we'd have a proper player on our hands. He still starts on Saturday for me, Ennis might have a role to play in parts but not as a lone striker in a home game.
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Apr 2, 2024 15:14:11 GMT
Post by rabbigan on Apr 2, 2024 15:14:11 GMT
Mmaee will never be a decent striker at this level as long as he has the proverbial orifice. He is slow, lethargic, lacks commitment , skill, cant head, cant shoot. Whoever suggested him to the club as a striker needs some strong advice from the top about what a decent striker looks and acts like. We do not have a decent striker on the books.
The one potentially fine striker Tyrese does not seem to have the enthusiasm to match his undoubted ability.
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Post by datguy on Apr 2, 2024 15:15:17 GMT
What’s this stuff about him apparently reporting 90 minutes late for duty yesterday?
Anything in it or made up shite? Seen on twitter.
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Post by LphPotter on Apr 2, 2024 15:31:01 GMT
What’s this stuff about him apparently reporting 90 minutes late for duty yesterday? Anything in it or made up shite? Seen on twitter. Given the stance Schumacher took last time you would have thought if it was true he wouldn’t have been involved at all. Especially if it was 90 minutes late, if it was just 10/20 minutes I suppose being dropped to the bench could be seen as punishment. I wasn’t expecting him to start both the games anyway with him not long being back from injury
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 2, 2024 15:40:21 GMT
What’s this stuff about him apparently reporting 90 minutes late for duty yesterday? Anything in it or made up shite? Seen on twitter. Given the stance Schumacher took last time you would have thought if it was true he wouldn’t have been involved at all. Especially if it was 90 minutes late, if it was just 10/20 minutes I suppose being dropped to the bench could be seen as punishment. I wasn’t expecting him to start both the games anyway with him not long being back from injury Well he turned up at around 1.35, 30 minutes after the rest of the players had arrived and admitted to supporters he was "running late". At best he was 35 minutes late but given that the players generally meet at CW for a pre-match meal and meeting, if he didn't make that then he was 90 minutes late. It's not great whichever way you look at it, assuming it's true. There is some reports that our Muslim players have been given some kind of leeway around meeting times, particularly if food is involved, due to Ramadan.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 2, 2024 15:49:56 GMT
Given the stance Schumacher took last time you would have thought if it was true he wouldn’t have been involved at all. Especially if it was 90 minutes late, if it was just 10/20 minutes I suppose being dropped to the bench could be seen as punishment. I wasn’t expecting him to start both the games anyway with him not long being back from injury Well he turned up at around 1.35, 30 minutes after the rest of the players had arrived and admitted to supporters he was "running late". At best he was 35 minutes late but given that the players generally meet at CW for a pre-match meal and meeting, if he didn't make that then he was 90 minutes late. It's not great whichever way you look at it, assuming it's true. There is some reports that our Muslim players have been given some kind of leeway around meeting times, particularly if food is involved, due to Ramadan. He was outside the ground at 5.38pm mingling with supporters, but still looking miserable. I don't know if that means he left late as well. Or maybe he just didn't reset his watch for British Summer Time.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 2, 2024 15:59:05 GMT
I disagree strongly. Mmaee is more than good enough, his ability to keep possession in tight spaces and play on the half turn is rare at this level. Surely you could see that when he replaced Ennis? Agree with this. Originally we thought we were getting him as a 20 a goal striker. He patently isn't that, but he is or could be very good with another poacher style forward up alongside him. He may be good for 10-15 goals if played for a whole season but only if he is not played as a single stricker or if the 2 wide attacking forwards are much narrower and playing in and around him with all three then working off each other. Quite. Looked good when he came on. Only front player we have who can function with his back to goal, good link up play and an eye for a pass. Though a Fox in the Box he is not definitely has a role on footballing ability. However if his attitude sucks and his presence around CW is toxic then the manager has to make a call based on whether ge thinks he can get him to knuckle down or is best shot of him.
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Post by datguy on Apr 2, 2024 16:44:50 GMT
Well he turned up at around 1.35, 30 minutes after the rest of the players had arrived and admitted to supporters he was "running late". At best he was 35 minutes late but given that the players generally meet at CW for a pre-match meal and meeting, if he didn't make that then he was 90 minutes late. It's not great whichever way you look at it, assuming it's true. There is some reports that our Muslim players have been given some kind of leeway around meeting times, particularly if food is involved, due to Ramadan. He was outside the ground at 5.38pm mingling with supporters, but still looking miserable. I don't know if that means he left late as well. Or maybe he just didn't reset his watch for British Summer Time. Any update as to where he was 5:37pm and/or 5:39pm?
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Post by nonameface on Apr 2, 2024 18:40:36 GMT
Assuming he is still engaged with the clubs progress and is making improvements re his discipline then for me he's a player we can build upon for next year.
Yesterday he showed more strength and urgency when holding the ball up, in addition to his continued excellence of understanding what is going on around him on the pitch blended with his quality control of the football. Can't really judge him too much on his finishing because as a team we generally don't create many chances.
If he's here next year, it would be great to get players much closer to him.
LW, Junho, Manhoef behind Mmaee could be quality next year.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 2, 2024 18:46:20 GMT
Making improvements?
He's a grown adult being paid thousands of pounds a week after we forked out millions of pounds to sign him.
Making improvememts doesn't cut it in the slightest.
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Apr 2, 2024 19:10:38 GMT
I was impressed with him when he came on, you could clearly see the difference in quality between him and Ennis. His back to goal hold up play was really good, it meant we could get up the pitch, something Ennis failed to do. Hopefully he gets a run of games and starts to add some goals.
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Post by nonameface on Apr 2, 2024 19:11:51 GMT
Making improvements? He's a grown adult being paid thousands of pounds a week after we forked out millions of pounds to sign him. Making improvememts doesn't cut it in the slightest. Get that, but that's not generally how it works, even if that's the way we'd like it to be and also the way that feels reasonable. Unfortunately, the more guaranteed something is, the bigger likelihood someone is going to take it for granted. Add more money into that equation, all it does is exaggerate behaviour one way or the other. This is only a problem if it impacts others negatively in the short term. Changing behaviours and mindset can be harder to do than improving technique and fitness, so you need to give it time and be supportive of someone through it. That or lose all transfer value and still have to pay his wages...
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 2, 2024 19:14:39 GMT
Making improvements? He's a grown adult being paid thousands of pounds a week after we forked out millions of pounds to sign him. Making improvememts doesn't cut it in the slightest. Get that, but that's not generally how it works, even if that's the way we'd like it to be and also the way that feels reasonable. Unfortunately, the more guaranteed something is, the bigger likelihood someone is going to take it for granted. Add more money into that equation, all it does is exaggerate behaviour one way or the other. This is only a problem if it impacts others negatively in the short term. Changing behaviours and mindset can be harder to do than improving technique and fitness, so you need to give it time and be supportive of someone through it. That or lose all transfer value and still have to pay his wages... We're talking about turning up on time.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 2, 2024 19:29:16 GMT
Assuming he is still engaged with the clubs progress and is making improvements re his discipline then for me he's a player we can build upon for next year. Yesterday he showed more strength and urgency when holding the ball up, in addition to his continued excellence of understanding what is going on around him on the pitch blended with his quality control of the football. Can't really judge him too much on his finishing because as a team we generally don't create many chances. If he's here next year, it would be great to get players much closer to him. LW, Junho, Manhoef behind Mmaee could be quality next year. He appears to be an utter cock though so it goodbye for me.
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Post by stokest5 on Apr 2, 2024 19:52:55 GMT
Mmaee will never be a decent striker at this level as long as he has the proverbial orifice. He is slow, lethargic, lacks commitment , skill, cant head, cant shoot. Whoever suggested him to the club as a striker needs some strong advice from the top about what a decent striker looks and acts like. We do not have a decent striker on the books. The one potentially fine striker Tyrese does not seem to have the enthusiasm to match his undoubted ability. That the view I’ve got of Mmaee. I’m baffled by all the posts of people praising him.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Apr 2, 2024 20:51:59 GMT
Mmaee will never be a decent striker at this level as long as he has the proverbial orifice. He is slow, lethargic, lacks commitment , skill, cant head, cant shoot. Whoever suggested him to the club as a striker needs some strong advice from the top about what a decent striker looks and acts like. We do not have a decent striker on the books. The one potentially fine striker Tyrese does not seem to have the enthusiasm to match his undoubted ability. That the view I’ve got of Mmaee. I’m baffled by all the posts of people praising him. Mmaee will clearly continue to divide option among supporters. For myself I think he is by far our best player as a centre forward at the moment. What I don’t understand is how anyone can put the word potential forward when describing Campbell after 3or 4 years of simply failing to show any development.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 2, 2024 21:27:37 GMT
Worryingly the manager and recruitment team seem to think Ennis is a viable alternative , hence they signed him personally think Mmaee totally unsuited to this lesgue snd Campbell the best of the three but I know the bin off brigade will rejoice when Campbell leaves oblivious to the fact he’s likely to be replaced by far worse or not at all see Brown , Tymon , Allen , Powell , etc etc etc
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Post by alsager58 on Apr 2, 2024 22:57:33 GMT
Mmaee wont be here next season his behaviour is unacceptable. As a player he lacks pace, conviction to get into scoring positions, hes not good in the air, he plays the game pretending to challenge when he has no intention to tackle or close someone down, plus he misses penalties, total liability thats why the club tried to get him on a plane to Turkey in January. Ennis everytime for me he tackles and chases lost causes and gets the team up the park. Remember you moaning brigade were making character assessments on Joselu and look where hes ended up.
SS and his team aren't stupid they know what's required next season. Remember he achieved more points than Ipswich last season with his own team.
Mmaee is a Tom Ince in disguise offers the same end product nothing, !!! Our floating left back Thompson i think has more goals that him, just about sums it up, those expecting 15-20 goals from him are deluded. Hes best suited to the European secondary leagues from June onwards
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Post by senojbor on Apr 2, 2024 23:57:22 GMT
What's this? A whole thread slating one of our own players? As if it's going to make things better.
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 3, 2024 5:18:45 GMT
Mmaee was good when he came on, but it was stuff outside the box that was impressive. If he could be a bit more of a danger in it, we'd have a proper player on our hands. He still starts on Saturday for me, Ennis might have a role to play in parts but not as a lone striker in a home game. If he can be bothered to get there on time?
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 3, 2024 5:22:01 GMT
What’s this stuff about him apparently reporting 90 minutes late for duty yesterday? Anything in it or made up shite? Seen on twitter. Very reliable source.Straight from the horse's mouth.Arrived late was asked by a fan of he was injured and said "No I'm late" 🙄
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 3, 2024 7:35:30 GMT
What’s this stuff about him apparently reporting 90 minutes late for duty yesterday? Anything in it or made up shite? Seen on twitter. Very reliable source.Straight from the horse's mouth.Arrived late was asked by a fan of he was injured and said "No I'm late" 🙄 Maybe he was being ironic?
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Post by apb1 on Apr 3, 2024 12:30:14 GMT
He should play him every game till the end of the season. Ennis was appalling yesterday. Trapped it further than I can kick it except the one time when he had to kick it straight back to a supporting player but trapped it so they nicked the ball!
The above is providing he is not breaking agreed code of conduct. If he is, then god help us.
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Post by biddulphchav on Apr 3, 2024 12:44:42 GMT
Has more genuine quality than most of the players in our squad combined. Unfortunately he’s spending a lot of time outside the box because if he gets in there he gets no service. We could have prime Shearer up top in this team and he’d struggle to get 10-15 goals in a season. Hope he stays (with the right attitude).
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Post by thestokielad on Apr 4, 2024 9:52:05 GMT
I don't think he'll ever get more than 6/7 goals a season. And his passing isn't good enough. I would replace every senior striker at the club, none are prolific enough
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 5, 2024 8:32:25 GMT
Very reliable source.Straight from the horse's mouth.Arrived late was asked by a fan of he was injured and said "No I'm late" 🙄 Maybe he was being ironic? He wasn’t injured though.So how does that fit?
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Post by Old School Stokie on Apr 5, 2024 10:28:39 GMT
His demeanour is the exact opposite of what we need. I would imagine if John Walters has any input he’ll be gone sooner rather than later. Cannot afford such players especially when we’ve only just got rid of “attitude Powell”
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