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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 21, 2024 19:53:01 GMT
He is a perfect last 20 mins player and we need all the options we can get but he’s not influenced anything like enough key moments ,to be a starter or mainstay .😃He is developing it’s not his fault . Indeed when bought he and junior wee bought as ones for the future not mainstays this season , they only are if fit.Becausethe others have been so poor So effectively,you’d leave one of our stand out,possibly most creative and industrious players until the last 20 minutes when the likely hood is we’ll be 2 or 3 down…..on the bench? He was stand out poor v both Preston and Norwich
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Post by kerouac on Mar 21, 2024 21:09:24 GMT
So effectively,you’d leave one of our stand out,possibly most creative and industrious players until the last 20 minutes when the likely hood is we’ll be 2 or 3 down…..on the bench? He was stand out poor v both Preston and Norwich The whole team was stand out poor v Norwich. He’s one of 3 players we should keep.
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Post by zommbee on Mar 24, 2024 9:23:28 GMT
Started for S.Korea U-23 v Saudi Arabia in the semi-final of the WAFF U-23 championship. Played in the number ten role in a 4-2-3-1 system. Got the assist for the S.Korea goal in the their 1-0 win. Substituted on 87 mins. S.korea now play Australia in the final.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 9:32:07 GMT
A manager played him in his correct position?
What is this wizardry?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 24, 2024 9:36:48 GMT
A manager played him in his correct position? What is this wizardry? Cant have seen him pay and a 10 v Norwich in the first half hes a long term asset which is what he was bought for same as Junio , but he not the answer in saving us in a pivotal role ands its unfair to expect him to be
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 9:38:19 GMT
A manager played him in his correct position? What is this wizardry? Cant have seen him pay and a 10 v Norwich in the first half hes a long term asset which is what he was bought for same as Junio , but he not the answer in saving us in a pivotal role ands its unfair to expect him to be Because he didn’t.
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 24, 2024 9:42:37 GMT
Didn’t Schu say that until he becomes more fluent and understanding of English that it’s less problematic defensively if he played out on the side of the pitch rather than the middle? Notwithstanding we are still shit defensively, I’d back the manager on that one and only criticise if he’s still hung out on the wings come August (assuming he’s still with us). He can obviously play 10 in the South Korean side as I assume they all speak the same language.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 9:44:40 GMT
Didn’t Schu say that until he becomes more fluent and understanding of English that it’s less problematic defensively if he played out on the side of the pitch rather than the middle? Notwithstanding we are still shit defensively, I’d back the manager on that one and only criticise if he’s still hung out on the wings come August (assuming he’s still with us). He can obviously play 10 in the South Korean side as I assume they all speak the same language. When I’m judging a number 10, defence doesn’t come into it. What a load of nonsense.
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 24, 2024 9:46:39 GMT
Seen some clips and he was dribbling through the opposition with ease, he just looks so much more sharp, strong and skillfull compared to his teammates and opponents. South Koreans claiming he’s the ‘future for Korean football’
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 24, 2024 9:47:14 GMT
Didn’t Schu say that until he becomes more fluent and understanding of English that it’s less problematic defensively if he played out on the side of the pitch rather than the middle? Notwithstanding we are still shit defensively, I’d back the manager on that one and only criticise if he’s still hung out on the wings come August (assuming he’s still with us). He can obviously play 10 in the South Korean side as I assume they all speak the same language. When I’m judging a number 10, defence doesn’t come into it. What a load of nonsense. Oh God, look what I’ve started. I will pass your comments onto the manager…..it might just save our season. Enjoy your Sunday.
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Post by redstriper on Mar 24, 2024 9:53:01 GMT
So effectively,you’d leave one of our stand out,possibly most creative and industrious players until the last 20 minutes when the likely hood is we’ll be 2 or 3 down…..on the bench? He was stand out poor v both Preston and Norwich Were you at Preston ?...did you even see it on TV ? ... it appears not, he wasn't stand out poor at all. In reality - he got a massive ovation when we walked past us behind the goal when he was subbed near the end.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 11:22:07 GMT
When I’m judging a number 10, defence doesn’t come into it. What a load of nonsense. Oh God, look what I’ve started. I will pass your comments onto the manager…..it might just save our season. Enjoy your Sunday. Did he actually say that? The more I hear from football managers the more I truly think they don’t know what they’re doing. All the evidence bears it out too. Most of them are abject failures.
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2024 12:09:37 GMT
Didn’t Schu say that until he becomes more fluent and understanding of English that it’s less problematic defensively if he played out on the side of the pitch rather than the middle? Notwithstanding we are still shit defensively, I’d back the manager on that one and only criticise if he’s still hung out on the wings come August (assuming he’s still with us). He can obviously play 10 in the South Korean side as I assume they all speak the same language. When I’m judging a number 10, defence doesn’t come into it. What a load of nonsense. Every player on the pitch has to be part of the defence (&attack)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 12:14:55 GMT
When I’m judging a number 10, defence doesn’t come into it. What a load of nonsense. Every player on the pitch has to be part of the defence (&attack) To some extent. But it shouldn’t worry you about a number 10. It’s pathetic.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 24, 2024 15:59:54 GMT
Cant have seen him pay and a 10 v Norwich in the first half hes a long term asset which is what he was bought for same as Junio , but he not the answer in saving us in a pivotal role ands its unfair to expect him to be Because he didn’t. Well where was he supposed to be playing first half ?
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 25, 2024 9:50:40 GMT
A manager played him in his correct position? What is this wizardry? Junho said himself he prefers LW. Give it a rest man.
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 25, 2024 10:20:01 GMT
A manager played him in his correct position? What is this wizardry? Dunno, but we’ll not be having any of that controversial stuff here at Stoke thank you very much.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 10:25:42 GMT
A manager played him in his correct position? What is this wizardry? Junho said himself he prefers LW. Give it a rest man. He’s a number 10. Everything about how he plays shows he’s a number 10. To not trust him there and then blab on about defence just sums up the cowardly nature of the current manager.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 25, 2024 10:51:53 GMT
Junho said himself he prefers LW. Give it a rest man. He’s a number 10. Everything about how he plays shows he’s a number 10. To not trust him there and then blab on about defence just sums up the cowardly nature of the current manager. In modern day football you can't play with just nine men defending which is what you would be doing if you take our striker and no. 10 out of defensive duties. Plus from what I have noticed, Junho is one of our better tackles. I haven't seen any stats but I would imagine he has a high success rate. He is also more enthusiastic in his defensive duties than players like Baker and Laurent. I therefore understand why you need to play him wide where his role is more straight forward. He did go through some matches when he just chased whoever had the ball which does then throw other players into confusion. He is well suited to the wing in defensive duties covering for an a tracking fullback. I do see your point about him not being a winger but he does as well if not better any other player we have.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 25, 2024 11:05:50 GMT
Well where was he supposed to be playing first half ? Left of the forward 3 with Laurent right, neither playing as a 10.
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Post by stoke1989 on Mar 25, 2024 12:17:22 GMT
He's coming home and won't be playing in final
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Post by gaznandi on Mar 25, 2024 13:12:16 GMT
He's coming home and won't be playing in final Yup
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Post by jokker on Mar 25, 2024 13:41:12 GMT
Didn’t Schu say that until he becomes more fluent and understanding of English that it’s less problematic defensively if he played out on the side of the pitch rather than the middle? Notwithstanding we are still shit defensively, I’d back the manager on that one and only criticise if he’s still hung out on the wings come August (assuming he’s still with us). He can obviously play 10 in the South Korean side as I assume they all speak the same language. Did you watch his interview via the sentinel? He speaks better English than most of the locals in the team...granted it did have an air of being doctored statements.
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Post by southcoaststokie on Mar 25, 2024 13:49:32 GMT
He is going to miss the finals then, hopefully he doesn’t blame the club for requesting his return, he seems like quite a level headed lad
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 25, 2024 14:47:40 GMT
He is going to miss the finals then, hopefully he doesn’t blame the club for requesting his return, he seems like quite a level headed lad It’s testament to how far he has come this season, he arrived as one for the future but right now he’s our most Important player being requested by the club to return as we need him here…I’m sure he’s fine about it🔴⚪️
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 25, 2024 15:27:07 GMT
He’s a number 10. Everything about how he plays shows he’s a number 10. To not trust him there and then blab on about defence just sums up the cowardly nature of the current manager. In modern day football you can't play with just nine men defending which is what you would be doing if you take our striker and no. 10 out of defensive duties. Plus from what I have noticed, Junho is one of our better tackles. I haven't seen any stats but I would imagine he has a high success rate. He is also more enthusiastic in his defensive duties than players like Baker and Laurent. I therefore understand why you need to play him wide where his role is more straight forward. He did go through some matches when he just chased whoever had the ball which does then throw other players into confusion. He is well suited to the wing in defensive duties covering for an a tracking fullback. I do see your point about him not being a winger but he does as well if not better any other player we have. Seems it's fixable with training, and that's on Schuey and his team. The excuse can't apply next year - unless Bae is just lighting up the wing anyway.
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Post by apb1 on Mar 25, 2024 16:02:12 GMT
He is going to miss the finals then, hopefully he doesn’t blame the club for requesting his return, he seems like quite a level headed lad It may even have been arranged in advance - play him in the first two games and fly home for the Hull match. In pure 'event' terms, he's got a 25,000 plus crowd in Hull vs about 1000 or so in Saudi, and the U23 tournament is a bit mickey mouse (West Asian Federation Cup?) vs a match with vital points at stake. The national sentiment might override it but I reckon he'll be happy enough to be coming home to play.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 25, 2024 21:17:36 GMT
Junho said himself he prefers LW. Give it a rest man. He’s a number 10. Everything about how he plays shows he’s a number 10. To not trust him there and then blab on about defence just sums up the cowardly nature of the current manager. He said himself he’s not a number 10. If he played at no10 didn’t preform you’d vilify the manager for not playing him LW which he said was his best position. Bloke can’t win. For what it’s worth, repeating the same point over and over is the equivalent of shouting louder to be heard. Totally pointless.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 21:18:26 GMT
He’s a number 10. Everything about how he plays shows he’s a number 10. To not trust him there and then blab on about defence just sums up the cowardly nature of the current manager. He said himself he’s not a number 10. If he played at no10 didn’t preform you’d vilify the manager for not playing him LW which he said was his best position. Bloke can’t win. For what it’s worth, repeating the same point over and over is the equivalent of shouting louder to be heard. Totally pointless. No I wouldn’t. I want him at number 10 because that’s what he is 🤣
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2024 21:27:14 GMT
He did say earlier this season he preferred the wing. I don't think it's open and shut, although he probably will end up in the middle
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